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PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 2 @ 10:57 AM ET
For the exception of last year, he scores at a pace of 30 goals per year, if he stays healthy. I think he will excell more on the Flyers.
- youarewrong


Why do you say that?
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 2 @ 10:58 AM ET
At some point whether they sign Vinny or not they are going to have to make a decision on Schenn, Coots, Laughton....If Laughton is half as good as he is projected to be then he shouldnt be a 4th line guy...maybe we should trade one of these guys and try to get a nice piece
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 2 @ 10:58 AM ET
I like Gus. I think he will do a fine job. Lauridsen played ok last year, he might be a third pair dman. Manning is a career minor leaguer imo.

Gervais is a waste of oxygen.

- PLindbergh31


Those guys only play if injury occurs.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 2 @ 10:58 AM ET
Those guys only play if injury occurs.
- stveshdy


Which will be when? During exhibition games?
flyguy12
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Columbus, OH
Joined: 10.22.2006

Jul 2 @ 10:59 AM ET
Have to expect Vinny to Habs.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 2 @ 10:59 AM ET
At some point whether they sign Vinny or not they are going to have to make a decision on Schenn, Coots, Laughton....If Laughton is half as good as he is projected to be then he shouldnt be a 4th line guy...maybe we should trade one of these guys and try to get a nice piece
- nonpoint22


I'd rather let Laughton start on the 4th line (like the great Mike Richards did) and earn his way up the ranks. I'd rather not trade Couturier, bank on Laughton, and find that he is in over his head.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 2 @ 10:59 AM ET
Have to expect Vinny to Habs.
- flyguy12


Makes the most sense. French Canadian guy, and Montreal is desperately in need of some size up front.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 2 @ 11:00 AM ET
Which will be when? During exhibition games?
- PLindbergh31


Dressing room of 1st day or training camp.
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 2 @ 11:00 AM ET
If he's healthy. He's missed at least 20 games the last three seasons.
- PhillySportsGuy


He missed 9 this year, 18 in 11-12, and 17 in 10-11. But I'd need to know what the injuries were to know if it's a sign he's breaking down.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 2 @ 11:01 AM ET
Which will be when? During exhibition games?
- PLindbergh31


Have some faith man. The season didn't start. All have been cleared but Mez who will by the end of the month.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:01 AM ET
I think Thomas might be the best pick here. I don't want to trade assetts for Halak, unless you are getting him for a 2nd rounder. If Schneider who is signes for a long time only gets a first, Halak who only has a year left should only get a 2nd.

Emery I would think will be looking for multiple years. I would bet he is looking for at least a 3 year deal. Thomas is perfect because he will likely want that 1 year deal, which will leave the Flyers the perfect time to see what they have in Mason, and decide who will be available in UFA next off-season.

- youarewrong


Schneider is signed for 2 more years, which to me isn't a long time. Just 1 more year than Halak. If I'm St. Louis, I ask for Read, a 2nd, and a B level prospect for Halak.

Personally, if we were to go with Mason/Thomas for a year or two, I'd love it if we signed Schneider if he hits UFA. Brodeur could easily play 2 more years, if I'm Cory that pisses me off and I sign elsewhere when the time comes.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 2 @ 11:01 AM ET
He missed 9 this year, 18 in 11-12, and 17 in 10-11. But I'd need to know what the injuries were to know if it's a sign he's breaking down.
- Feanor


Broken hands from punching people who were laying on the ice
Feanor
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 02.13.2013

Jul 2 @ 11:02 AM ET


I'd rather let Laughton start on the 4th line (like the great Mike Richards did) and earn his way up the ranks. I'd rather not trade Couturier, bank on Laughton, and find that he is in over his head.
- jmatchett383


I agree. I find it slightly bizarre that people are already penciling Laughton in as the third line center or worried about having to trade him. Let him play a full NHL season first.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:02 AM ET
Makes the most sense. French Canadian guy, and Montreal is desperately in need of some size up front.
- PLindbergh31


Did they even speak with him? I dont remember seeing there name on the list
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:02 AM ET
Have some faith man. The season didn't start. All have been cleared but Mez who will by the end of the month.
- stveshdy


Friday is a huge day. Holmgren can't afford to have another trainwreck like last summer.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 2 @ 11:03 AM ET
I'd rather let Laughton start on the 4th line (like the great Mike Richards did) and earn his way up the ranks.
- jmatchett383



This.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:03 AM ET
Did they even speak with him? I dont remember seeing there name on the list
- nonpoint22


Not sure. On the surface it makes the most sense.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 2 @ 11:03 AM ET
Friday is a huge day. Holmgren can't afford to have another trainwreck like last summer.
- PLindbergh31


Will see what happens.
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Tuesday Quick Hits
- bmeltzer

Emery or Thomas is fine with me. I prefer Emery but both players have some serious vicious bite in their games. Both are willing to hack and slash to protect their crease.
Rocktane
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ottawa, ON
Joined: 03.08.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
If they sign Vinnie, I'd go with:
Hartnell-Giroux-Voracek
Schenn-Vinnie-Read
Talbot-Couturier-Simmonds
McGinn or Rosehill-Laughton-Rinaldo

Gives you a good balance of size and speed on each line and a nice mix of offense and 2 way play on the 2nd and 3rd lines.

- BiggE


I like it, so long as we get a decent 1B to tandem with Mason and it all fits under the cap.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 2 @ 11:04 AM ET
Is he still too young for the A?
- BulliesPhan87

yes
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jul 2 @ 11:05 AM ET
Schneider is signed for 2 more years, which to me isn't a long time. Just 1 more year than Halak. If I'm St. Louis, I ask for Read, a 2nd, and a B level prospect for Halak.

Personally, if we were to go with Mason/Thomas for a year or two, I'd love it if we signed Schneider if he hits UFA. Brodeur could easily play 2 more years, if I'm Cory that pisses me off and I sign elsewhere when the time comes.

- Rocktane


I think it safe to say New Jersey will sign him before he hits UFA
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:05 AM ET
Emery or Thomas is fine with me. I prefer Emery but both players have some serious vicious bite in their games. Both are willing to hack and slash to protect their crease.
- dingo8urbaby


Concern with Emery is, if Mason falters can Emery hold up physically being a starter? Not sure he can.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 2 @ 11:06 AM ET
Will see what happens.
- stveshdy


Possibilities:
Trade Coburn, Read, 2014 1st for Mr. Fist and Hiller
Sign Leighton v4.0
Punch Bettman in face
Sign Lecavalier to big term big $$ contract
Sign aging "veteran" defensman for 2 years
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Jul 2 @ 11:07 AM ET
Outside of Ek predictions which i think we all take with a grain of salt...I cant see why Vinny would possibly want to come here...However i dont see dallas and detroit as fits either..should someone tell me why he would come here..and do we really think he will
- nonpoint22



Simon Gagne will talk him into signing here and they will play on a line together!
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