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newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 1 @ 8:22 PM ET
Actually whether you like to admit it or not, either you never listened to what he said or you have the comprehension skill of a toddler...I'll paraphrase it for you , read it real slowly so it has time to absorb through the thickness of your skull

" The list's are constructed differently , there are some guys you know you aren't going to get.
So when you have a big gap like between 6 and 22 and then 6 and 28, you know there are certain guys you aren't going to get , so you build your list knowing these guys are gone after 6. You have your overall list and then your compartmentalized list . So when we broke the whole draft down we said here's a group of kids we can get at 22 and 28. There was 10 or 12 guys.


I'm not sure how their drafting will turn out, and still question Feaster's choices too although I think taking Poirier here is less risky than taking Janko last year. I can see criticism for Feaster after a few of his boneheaded moves in the past but you've obviously just come here to troll.

The rumor is Calgary had to grab Poirier at 22 because your Habs had him in their sights at 25 so I guess Bergevin is a bozo too.

- Bootsey



Is he ever, he just grabbed the top goalie in the 2nd round, something Feaster I guess thought he wasn't worthy of their so-called top 13 which once again makes him, Button & Weisbrod look like idiots - which they are!!!

About as smart as you!!
flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 8:23 PM ET
Screw the rebuild. The Flames are bringing in Seguin and Lecavalier for next season.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 1 @ 8:25 PM ET
Well that quote states that they had two lists and Feaster didn't specify which list he was taling about when he said all 3 were in top 13. I also don't buy that the Flames knew the Habs want Poirier at 25. Why on Earth would they leak that type of info?
- flamminghead



Because he's the troll who knows nothing & is spewing a bunch of garbage when in reality Feaster & the rest of his stooges know nothing about talent.

You can make all the excuses you want(right Jankowski pick) but in the end the organization isn't thin in talent for no reason.
flamminghead
Calgary Flames
Location: As good as they are in the off, AB
Joined: 09.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 8:25 PM ET
Is he ever, he just grabbed the top goalie in the 2nd round, something Feaster I guess thought he wasn't worthy of their so-called top 13 which once again makes him, Button & Weisbrod look like idiots - which they are!!!

About as smart as you!!

- newmy

What the hell would the Flames want with Fucale? They have enough goalies and by the time most of them develop in NHL starters they are already close to free agency. Drafting goalies is a crap shoot.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jul 1 @ 8:26 PM ET
Is he ever, he just grabbed the top goalie in the 2nd round, something Feaster I guess thought he wasn't worthy of their so-called top 13 which once again makes him, Button & Weisbrod look like idiots - which they are!!!

About as smart as you!!

- newmy


I was angry by that. Oilers wanted him, hence the switch with LA immediately after the Habs drafted Fucale. Mac T should've known the Habs would take the best player available who was also FRENCH CANADIAN

Should've swapped picks with Buffalo at 35 and given them our 5th or something.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 8:28 PM ET
hrmm you lost me with backlund being a beast.

I like the guy, but he's 2nd line tops.

if gaudreau isn't great, its worth it. but I think he has the potential to be great, but his size makes it an big IF.

That being said, once he hits the AHL and he shows the size is an issue, we're stuck with him.

I think he's great, but is it worth the gamble. I like the underdog

- numbear

I have a feeling Backlund will become the 1C this yr. Anyone who wants to quote me on this if I am wrong, that is cool.
As of now, my stock is in his corner most (assuming Kip retired). I think he has it, IFFFFF he stays healthy.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 1 @ 8:30 PM ET
What the hell would the Flames want with Fucale? They have enough goalies and by the time most of them develop in NHL starters they are already close to free agency. Drafting goalies is a crap shoot.
- flamminghead



As any GM would tell you(well maybe not Feaster) you can never have enough solid goalies or defensemen - period.

You can't tell me(and I don't think you are) that Fucale at that point(late first round, early second) was not the best player that wasn't drafted to this point.

It's an absolute steal the Habs grabbed him & do you think they need goaltending right now - not really & people can cut Price down all they want(but most teams would take him in a heart-beat) but the bottom line is Fucale is going to be a starter which also gives the Habs flexibility should Price demand an outrageous contract next time around.

And what exactly do the Flames have for goalies again??? Not much at all.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 1 @ 8:31 PM ET
I was angry by that. Oilers wanted him, hence the switch with LA immediately after the Habs drafted Fucale. Mac T should've known the Habs would take the best player available who was also FRENCH CANADIAN

Should've swapped picks with Buffalo at 35 and given them our 5th or something.

- ystoil



MacT along with several other GM's blew it when Fucale lasted that long.
Bootsey
Calgary Flames
Location: peace river, AB
Joined: 07.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 8:38 PM ET
Well that quote states that they had two lists and Feaster didn't specify which list he was taling about when he said all 3 were in top 13. I also don't buy that the Flames knew the Habs want Poirier at 25. Why on Earth would they leak that type of info?
- flamminghead


Right but Button just did, he was directly asked about Feaster saying the 3 players were in their top 13 list and Button explained the 2 lists.

Feaster was trying to be coy and was grandstanding which I agree makes him look foolish, but do you honestly think the Flames would have made the same selections had they had 3 picks in the top 13?

Well it doesn't matter what you buy or not the Flames obviously thought someone (rumored to be Montreal ) was going to grab him before their 28th pick.
Only time will tell if it was a dumb move or not.


FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 8:41 PM ET
As any GM would tell you(well maybe not Feaster) you can never have enough solid goalies or defensemen - period.

You can't tell me(and I don't think you are) that Fucale at that point(late first round, early second) was not the best player that wasn't drafted to this point.

It's an absolute steal the Habs grabbed him & do you think they need goaltending right now - not really & people can cut Price down all they want(but most teams would take him in a heart-beat) but the bottom line is Fucale is going to be a starter which also gives the Habs flexibility should Price demand an outrageous contract next time around.

And what exactly do the Flames have for goalies again??? Not much at all.

- newmy

Don't need Fucale. Broissot will be ok
Bootsey
Calgary Flames
Location: peace river, AB
Joined: 07.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 8:49 PM ET
Is he ever, he just grabbed the top goalie in the 2nd round, something Feaster I guess thought he wasn't worthy of their so-called top 13 which once again makes him, Button & Weisbrod look like idiots - which they are!!!

About as smart as you!!

- newmy


Because drafting goalie's in the 1st round always turns out, I'm glad the Flames didn't waste a pick on a goalie when they have a couple decent prospects.
If Fucale was so great why'd Montreal pass on him the first round as well. McCarron would have still been there in the 2nd round for them.
Like I said we will find out years down the road what was dumb and what was good.
Only genius's like yourself proclaim who the duds and studs are the day after the draft.
RedC21
Calgary Flames
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 9:07 PM ET
Something doesn't add up. There had to have been something with Shinkaruk. Calgary went 22, Vancouver went 24. Why didn't Washington pick him 23?
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 9:13 PM ET
Something doesn't add up. There had to have been something with Shinkaruk. Calgary went 22, Vancouver went 24. Why didn't Washington pick him 23?
- RedC21

Attitude made him plummet after combine. Honest though, if you have the skills, that shouldn't affect BPA. They aren't drafting a mass murdered like the NFL with attitude problems did.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 1 @ 9:22 PM ET
where are you finding these backs/gadreau+ for seguin? i cant seem to find it anywhere
- seatsy

Trying to find it, it popped up a couple days ago....a rumour as I said.

I find it hard to believe seguin is really on the block. But would be more then happy if he was a flame.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 1 @ 9:26 PM ET
I have a feeling Backlund will become the 1C this yr. Anyone who wants to quote me on this if I am wrong, that is cool.
As of now, my stock is in his corner most (assuming Kip retired). I think he has it, IFFFFF he stays healthy.

- FLflames34

not sure where kip ties in there.

Cammy or hudler will probably be 1st line C unless theres a trade or signing. OR could even be stajan (because he's useless on a 3rd or 4th line role and the best faceoff man on the team now)

I would prefer if backs plays with baert. Let them develop some chemistry.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 9:29 PM ET
not sure where kip ties in there.

Cammy or hudler will probably be 1st line C unless theres a trade or signing. OR could even be stajan (because he's useless on a 3rd or 4th line role and the best faceoff man on the team now)

I would prefer if backs plays with baert. Let them develop some chemistry.

- numbear

Kip was just personal sentiment to a player. If he retires, then Backs will be my fav on the team. Wouldn't disagree with the approach, but if Monahan makes the team, Stajan is #3.
Talking_hockey1
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.20.2013

Jul 1 @ 9:30 PM ET
Because drafting goalie's in the 1st round always turns out, I'm glad the Flames didn't waste a pick on a goalie when they have a couple decent prospects.
If Fucale was so great why'd Montreal pass on him the first round as well. McCarron would have still been there in the 2nd round for them.
Like I said we will find out years down the road what was dumb and what was good.
Only genius's like yourself proclaim who the duds and studs are the day after the draft.

- Bootsey


You really should bother fighting with this troll. He's just mad because Montreal didn't draft anybody near as good as who the flames drafted. I bet you see Fucale struggle more when he doesn't have Mackinnon and Drouin in front of him. Flames get speed and skill, Montreal got a goon and a goalie.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 1 @ 9:40 PM ET
Kip was just personal sentiment to a player. If he retires, then Backs will be my fav on the team. Wouldn't disagree with the approach, but if Monahan makes the team, Stajan is #3.
- FLflames34


Stajan still feels like odd man out, but probably the best faceoff winner on the team so can't discount that. I think there's going to be alot of switching around on the 3rd/4th lines this year as alot of people will fighting for spots.

Trading cammy/hudler/stajan feels like its needed though.


cammy/hudler/glenX
baert/backs/jones
horak/monahan/stemper
bouma/knight/hanosowki (jackman)

stajan will most likely switch with horak and monahan. Knight is RH, maybe they'll try him on the RW.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 1 @ 9:41 PM ET
Because drafting goalie's in the 1st round always turns out, I'm glad the Flames didn't waste a pick on a goalie when they have a couple decent prospects.
If Fucale was so great why'd Montreal pass on him the first round as well. McCarron would have still been there in the 2nd round for them.
Like I said we will find out years down the road what was dumb and what was good.
Only genius's like yourself proclaim who the duds and studs are the day after the draft.

- Bootsey



Yeah, you're right just like how Jankowski will be a star - LOL

Keep dreaming & keep denying how awful Feaster, Button & Weisbrod are.
newmy
Montreal Canadiens
Joined: 06.15.2012

Jul 1 @ 9:44 PM ET
You really should bother fighting with this troll. He's just mad because Montreal didn't draft anybody near as good as who the flames drafted. I bet you see Fucale struggle more when he doesn't have Mackinnon and Drouin in front of him. Flames get speed and skill, Montreal got a goon and a goalie.
- Talking_hockey1



Well I guess drafting Jankowski last year speaks volume about your scouting staff.

Oh & the 7yrs before that. Is that why you can't seem to make the playoffs - because of your stellar drafting??

Keep denying how brutal your scouting staff is & the rest of us will keep laughing when you continue to turn out nobody!!
saneopinion
Calgary Flames
Location: Canada, AB
Joined: 08.06.2007

Jul 1 @ 9:47 PM ET
Stajan still feels like odd man out, but probably the best faceoff winner on the team so can't discount that. I think there's going to be alot of switching around on the 3rd/4th lines this year as alot of people will fighting for spots.

Trading cammy/hudler/stajan feels like its needed though.


cammy/hudler/glenX
baert/backs/jones
horak/monahan/stemper
bouma/knight/hanosowki (jackman)

stajan will most likely switch with horak and monahan. Knight is RH, maybe they'll try him on the RW.

- numbear

Just FYI knight is a centre with 60% winning, he's the flames best #3 centre right now. Think malhotra.
FLflames34
Calgary Flames
Location: ., HI
Joined: 02.26.2010

Jul 1 @ 9:49 PM ET
Stajan still feels like odd man out, but probably the best faceoff winner on the team so can't discount that. I think there's going to be alot of switching around on the 3rd/4th lines this year as alot of people will fighting for spots.

Trading cammy/hudler/stajan feels like its needed though.


cammy/hudler/glenX
baert/backs/jones
horak/monahan/stemper
bouma/knight/hanosowki (jackman)

stajan will most likely switch with horak and monahan. Knight is RH, maybe they'll try him on the RW.

- numbear

Disagree. he's the best body for a rebuild. and if he does it right, should be re-signed. Quite impressed with him last year.
Bootsey
Calgary Flames
Location: peace river, AB
Joined: 07.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 9:54 PM ET
You really should bother fighting with this troll. He's just mad because Montreal didn't draft anybody near as good as who the flames drafted. I bet you see Fucale struggle more when he doesn't have Mackinnon and Drouin in front of him. Flames get speed and skill, Montreal got a goon and a goalie.
- Talking_hockey1

True enough, may as well let him vent after the draft plus he 's probably still a little bent out of shape after the underdog Sens manhandled his team both physically and on the scoreboard, that'd take a while to get over.
TandA4Flames
Calgary Flames
Joined: 05.10.2010

Jul 1 @ 9:58 PM ET
As any GM would tell you(well maybe not Feaster) you can never have enough solid goalies or defensemen - period.

You can't tell me(and I don't think you are) that Fucale at that point(late first round, early second) was not the best player that wasn't drafted to this point.

It's an absolute steal the Habs grabbed him & do you think they need goaltending right now - not really & people can cut Price down all they want(but most teams would take him in a heart-beat) but the bottom line is Fucale is going to be a starter which also gives the Habs flexibility should Price demand an outrageous contract next time around.

And what exactly do the Flames have for goalies again??? Not much at all.

- newmy

Gillies and Brossoit are pretty good goalie prospects, dude. Read up on them before you spout off.

We don't have a Price at the moment but don't know how good Ramo could be. We should find out soon.
numbear
Calgary Flames
Location: vancouver, BC
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 1 @ 10:02 PM ET
Just FYI knight is a centre with 60% winning, he's the flames best #3 centre right now. Think malhotra.
- saneopinion

rather have him on the 4th then monahan if he makes it. Then use him on PKs. And if he's that good at them great, more reason to move stajan.

isn't that 60% in the minors? I'm sure Nuge was that high there as well, he's terrible at face-offs

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