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Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 2:49 PM ET
I lived in S Carolina for 10+ years.
I liked it, my wife hated it.

It is a hockey backwater though.
Great golf, nice beaches, college football is #1.
Good "groceries" (food).

- Marc D


South Carolina sucks.
North Carolina rules.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jul 1 @ 2:49 PM ET
Per Dave Issac, the Flyers gave QOs to Gustafsson, Lauridsen, Manning and Wellwood

http://blogs.courierposto...g-offers-to-four-players/

- Jsaquella


Great job. Exactly what they should've done.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 2:50 PM ET
I thought that this year as a special exemption it was changed to be $10 over due to the decrease in the cap. It's normally 10% over max.

EDIT: I'm gonna make you look it up MJL, I have a meeting to run

- FlyersGrace



You could be right, but I haven't seen that.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 2:51 PM ET
so everyone except Kessel?

Nice for Wellwood, I thought with that injury he might get left out.

- Marc D


Kessel and Mitch Wahl were not tendered. Wahl was acquired during the season for Mike Testwuide
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 2:52 PM ET
I saw this earlier but why did we have the lockout again? 5.6 for Bob with how many games played? Mike Smith signs for about the same, this was a journeyman before Pheonix. Just seems like we will be in the very same spot next go round luckily that wont be for another 8 years.
- flyerfan28



The middle class of players are going to see the salary crunch. Top players in important positions, are still going to get paid.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:52 PM ET
Issac has Gustafsson's qualifying offer at 850,000.

I thought he was already at 900K and had to get a raise.

I am missing something here.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:53 PM ET
South Carolina sucks.
North Carolina rules.

- Scoob

nice over generalization scoob
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 2:53 PM ET
Dave Tippet is apparently very good at making mediocre goaltenders very wealthy.

Smart move on the term of Bob's contract, fwiw.

- johndewar

Bob's not exactly a mediocre goalie
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
Bob's not exactly a mediocre goalie
- JAKEw1234


I was actually referring to Mike Smith and our old friend Bryz with that remark.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 1 @ 2:55 PM ET
Which young forward or forwards get dealt if the Flyers sign Lecav..
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 2:57 PM ET
Which young forward or forwards get dealt if the Flyers sign Lecav..
- jstross

Carter and Richards
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 2:58 PM ET
Which young forward or forwards get dealt if the Flyers sign Lecav..
- jstross


I don't think anyone gets dealt, per se (but it's possible).

One thing I think it would mean is that Schenn or someone else moves to wing.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 1 @ 3:00 PM ET
There's an uprising of Orcs to be put down?
- mayorofangrytown

I WISH it were so simple.
FlyersGrace
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Pronger "Play the game puffnuts!" , DE
Joined: 07.02.2012

Jul 1 @ 3:02 PM ET
Which young forward or forwards get dealt if the Flyers sign Lecav..
- jstross

Yeah I doubt that they move any of the young guys. But the chances of Gagne signing go down.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:05 PM ET
Issac has Gustafsson's qualifying offer at 850,000.

I thought he was already at 900K and had to get a raise.

I am missing something here.

- Marc D


I think it's supposed to be a 10% raise. However, since the cap went down, the max. 2-way contract value could have also gone down.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:06 PM ET
So here's a nice video that talks a little bit about Morin and Hagg. Click on the video player, apparently Robert's name is pronounced Hegg

Starts with Morin at 00:55 and then goes on to talk about Hagg

http://www.hockeysverige....yers-kan-ha-fyndat-i-hagg

edit: it's in english obviously, even if it is a swedish hockey site

- Yosimar89



they should zoom in a bit more on that guy
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 3:06 PM ET
nice over generalization scoob
- Marc D

Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:07 PM ET
Per Dave Issac, the Flyers gave QOs to Gustafsson, Lauridsen, Manning and Wellwood

http://blogs.courierposto...g-offers-to-four-players/

- Jsaquella



wow, wellwood
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:08 PM ET
Let me start off by saying this is no indication on Morin. I think he has all the potential to become what they say he can become.

What pisses me off is the Flyers staying put to take him. I'm sorry, but Nichushkin dropped to 10. Flyers should have either traded up for him, or traded down and picked Morin, or Zadarov there. It was a bad pick, and you cant even attribute it to picking by need, because there were players that met need that were passed by.

Hell, it might have been possible to get Morin and Shinkaruk if they traded down... or Furcal... It just doesn't make sense.

Homer just put his neck on the chopping block. He is going to need to do something big to get his head out from under the guliteen. I'm still hopeful, just worried.

So despite it being a boring draft from the Flyers I still had fun. At least until I reached Mount Laurel on the NJ Turnpick and my Front right tire blewout on the ride home.... That was fun...
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jul 1 @ 3:11 PM ET
One good thing about "reaching" for a pick is the affect you have on that kid. He knows what the media is saying. I wouldn't discount the psychological impact that can have on a player when Holmgren looks him dead in the eye and says "I believe in you over and above everyone else still on the board. Don't let me down." It won't impact everyone but it has to be a huge motivator to KNOW you went to a team who really wanted you.
*puts on orange colored glasses and crosses arms aggressively*

- FlyersGrace

youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:11 PM ET
Yeah I doubt that they move any of the young guys. But the chances of Gagne signing go down.
- FlyersGrace


I would think the signing of Gagne would go up. I think he may be the one "brokering" the deal.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:13 PM ET
Let me start off by saying this is no indication on Morin. I think he has all the potential to become what they say he can become.

What pisses me off is the Flyers staying put to take him. I'm sorry, but Nichushkin dropped to 10. Flyers should have either traded up for him, or traded down and picked Morin, or Zadarov there. It was a bad pick, and you cant even attribute it to picking by need, because there were players that met need that were passed by.

Hell, it might have been possible to get Morin and Shinkaruk if they traded down... or Furcal... It just doesn't make sense.

Homer just put his neck on the chopping block. He is going to need to do something big to get his head out from under the guliteen. I'm still hopeful, just worried.

So despite it being a boring draft from the Flyers I still had fun. At least until I reached Mount Laurel on the NJ Turnpick and my Front right tire blewout on the ride home.... That was fun...

- youarewrong

ok where could they have dropped to and still been able to pick Morin?
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 1 @ 3:17 PM ET
ok where could they have dropped to and still been able to pick Morin?
- Crimsoninja


Considering Pullock and Zadorov were picked at 15 and 16 I would say a trade down to right about ther would have landed you 1 of the 3, which are likely about equal players.

I would say there is reason to believe that if Flyers trade that pick, both the abouve get picked before Morin.
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 3:17 PM ET
Let me start off by saying this is no indication on Morin. I think he has all the potential to become what they say he can become.

What pisses me off is the Flyers staying put to take him. I'm sorry, but Nichushkin dropped to 10. Flyers should have either traded up for him, or traded down and picked Morin, or Zadarov there. It was a bad pick, and you cant even attribute it to picking by need, because there were players that met need that were passed by.

Hell, it might have been possible to get Morin and Shinkaruk if they traded down... or Furcal... It just doesn't make sense.

Homer just put his neck on the chopping block. He is going to need to do something big to get his head out from under the guliteen. I'm still hopeful, just worried.

So despite it being a boring draft from the Flyers I still had fun. At least until I reached Mount Laurel on the NJ Turnpick and my Front right tire blewout on the ride home.... That was fun...

- youarewrong

In the first 35 only two trades were made for picks. What makes you think anyone was moving their picks when no one did? It's easy for you to sit here and say move down without knowing if it's possible, assuming it is and condemning someone for not doing it.

Ed Snider was sitting right there. If there was a problem with the picks they would have addressed it then.
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 1 @ 3:18 PM ET
Considering Pullock and Zadorov were picked at 15 and 16 I would say a trade down to right about ther would have landed you 1 of the 3, which are likely about equal players.
- youarewrong

id take Morin over Pullock and Zadorov

and the other teams need to be willing to trade up
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