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JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 11:22 PM ET
If they don't sign Lecavalier, I think they get one of Clarkson, Horton or Clowe.
- Jsaquella

I'd like to have Clarkson or Horton. Having one of Hatnell, Simmonds, Clarkson/Horton, and Rinaldo in your face at all times must be tiring for teams.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 1 @ 11:23 PM ET

- Jsaquella

I don't want anything to do with him. I think emery and mason would be a good tandem
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 1 @ 11:23 PM ET
I'd like to have Clarkson or Horton. Having one of Hatnell, Simmonds, Clarkson/Horton, and Rinaldo in your face at all times must be tiring for teams.
- JAKEw1234

And z2
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 1 @ 11:24 PM ET
I'd like to have Clarkson or Horton. Having one of Hatnell, Simmonds, Clarkson/Horton, and Rinaldo in your face at all times must be tiring for teams.
- JAKEw1234

Ehh Horton is decent but he's too injury proned
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:25 PM ET
If they don't sign Lecavalier, I think they get one of Clarkson, Horton or Clowe.
- Jsaquella


I dig Clarkson. Think he goes up to about $4/$5 million from his current $3?

I'm also a fan of Ference (if we move Mesz and/or Coburn) at around $3.5/4 for 3 or 4. Not sure how realistic that is though.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 11:26 PM ET
I dig Clarkson. Think he goes up to about $4/$5 million from his current $3?

I'm also a fan of Ference (if we move Mesz and/or Coburn) at around $3.5/4 for 3 or 4. Not sure how realistic that is though.

- wolfhounds


I think he waits for Horton, who is supposedly asking for $6mm. Horton gets that, Clarkson will get at least $5mm
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 1 @ 11:26 PM ET
I dig Clarkson. Think he goes up to about $4/$5 million from his current $3?

I'm also a fan of Ference (if we move Mesz and/or Coburn) at around $3.5/4 for 3 or 4. Not sure how realistic that is though.

- wolfhounds

Yea or scudrei
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:26 PM ET
I think coburn and read and a pick for Ryan
- griouxmvp2012


Big hole on D then, especially with question marks around Mesz and Grossmann.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 11:27 PM ET
And z2
- griouxmvp2012

Once Z2 hits the NHL. Good thing about players like him and Zac and Z2 is that they don't have to have good hockey skills to make it up to the pro league. They just have to bring their game. I don't wanna say I wouldn't be surprised if it happened, but I wouldn't exactly be shocked if Z2 made his debut next year.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 1 @ 11:29 PM ET
Big hole on D then, especially with question marks around Mesz and Grossmann.
- wolfhounds

Fernce or scuderi
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 1 @ 11:31 PM ET
Once Z2 hits the NHL. Good thing about players like him and Zac and Z2 is that they don't have to have good hockey skills to make it up to the pro league. They just have to bring their game. I don't wanna say I wouldn't be surprised if it happened, but I wouldn't exactly be shocked if Z2 made his debut next year.
- JAKEw1234

I don't think next year maybe the year after. So you think we are gonna follow Pitts and nj and make a big draft day trade next year
Roytastic
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Portland, OR
Joined: 06.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 11:33 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426752

LOVE the TSN headline ..oopsie

- MrBigglesworth


You know it's a tough trade market when the only team willing to trade with you is your own.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:33 PM ET
I think he waits for Horton, who is supposedly asking for $6mm. Horton gets that, Clarkson will get at least $5mm
- Jsaquella


Yup, that's probably the way it will work out unfortunately.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:34 PM ET
Fernce or scuderi
- griouxmvp2012


Also Rozsival and Clitsome out there...but I think we're pretty solid on 5,6,7 d-men.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:35 PM ET
This is just for fun so relax!
The Hinke method.

Flyers realize the playoffs are just too far gone. Instead of going on a 10-5 tear they realize they need to shelve some players for health(Timo in particular).

Flyers trade Gagne to Montreal for pick 116.
Flyers trade Fedetenko figure a 5th, call it pick 145(probably get more).

Again, on the conservative side they finish with 39 points tied for 2nd worst. As fate would have it they get screwed again and pick 4th.

The Flyers now have:
4, 32, 64, 116, 123, 145, 153, 183

Flyers sign Streit to 4/$51.00

Draft:
4 Seth Jones with 7 picks left.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:37 PM ET
Still no Bernier deal in Toronto?

What does that mean come Friday if other teams want to make him an offer?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 11:37 PM ET
Big hole on D then, especially with question marks around Mesz and Grossmann.
- wolfhounds

And considering then we'd have 8 top-6 forwards
Bobby would be a good FA pickup when he hits the market in 2 years. We should get him for a fair price seeing as he wants to play here. He's Nothing to give assets for, especially since he's non-essential. Maybe he'll be a good replacement for Hartsy when Hartsy starts to decline more in a couple years.
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:38 PM ET
This is just for fun so relax!
The Hinke method.

Flyers realize the playoffs are just too far gone. Instead of going on a 10-5 tear they realize they need to shelve some players for health(Timo in particular).

Flyers trade Gagne to Montreal for pick 116.
Flyers trade Fedetenko figure a 5th, call it pick 145(probably get more).

Again, on the conservative side they finish with 39 points tied for 2nd worst. As fate would have it they get screwed again and pick 4th.

The Flyers now have:
4, 32, 64, 116, 123, 145, 153, 183


Flyers sign Streit to 4/$51.00

Draft:
4 Seth Jones with 7 picks left.

- jstross

That is a great (frank)ing deal for Streit!!!!!!
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 11:38 PM ET
Still no Bernier deal in Toronto?

What does that mean come Friday if other teams want to make him an offer?

- wolfhounds

Technically means that option's open
Pretty sure Toronto is more prepared to match any offers, though.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 11:38 PM ET
Still no Bernier deal in Toronto?

What does that mean come Friday if other teams want to make him an offer?

- wolfhounds


Has to be an offer sheet that the Leafs can match
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:39 PM ET
Still no Bernier deal in Toronto?

What does that mean come Friday if other teams want to make him an offer?

- wolfhounds


I would assume he is still a RFA no matter what which would make him subject to offer sheets. Doubt that happens plus Toronto has quite a bit of cap space to match.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 1 @ 11:40 PM ET
Still no Bernier deal in Toronto?

What does that mean come Friday if other teams want to make him an offer?

- wolfhounds

Gotta offer sheet him I'm sure the leafs will give him a qualifying offer
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:41 PM ET
And considering then we'd have 8 top-6 forwards
Bobby would be a good FA pickup when he hits the market in 2 years. We should get him for a fair price seeing as he wants to play here. He's Nothing to give assets for, especially since he's non-essential. Maybe he'll be a good replacement for Hartsy when Hartsy starts to decline more in a couple years.

- JAKEw1234


I like it. If he wants to come home in 2 years, I think we can make that happen. Then he can play with Morin, Lauridsen, Hagg and all the other super-uber defensemen we are currently training in badassery.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 11:43 PM ET
I like it. If he wants to come home in 2 years, I think we can make that happen. Then he can play with Morin, Lauridsen, Hagg and all the other super-uber defensemen we are currently training in badassery.
- wolfhounds

ALT
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 11:43 PM ET
I would assume he is still a RFA no matter what which would make him subject to offer sheets. Doubt that happens plus Toronto has quite a bit of cap space to match.
- flyerfan28


Got it. Thank you and the rest for the replies.

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