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Tartan69
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Section 112, PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jul 1 @ 8:51 PM ET
Dude's gotta make a living.
- Scoob


+100
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 1 @ 8:54 PM ET
I don't think Flyers would have to include anything nearly that high to get another team to take Meszaros for one year at his $4M salary. Philly just won't get squat in return.
- bmeltzer

i'd be fine w/ a $$ dump, but they have been unsuccessful so far in convincing teams to take Mez or Nic according to this
http://theorangeupdate.co...urn-could-still-be-moved/
so why are they offering coby if they could just dump mez w/ a low pick?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 8:55 PM ET
i'd be fine w/ a $$ dump, but they have been unsuccessful so far in convincing teams to take Mez or Nic according to this
http://theorangeupdate.co...urn-could-still-be-moved/
so why are they offering coby if they could just dump mez w/ a low pick?

- isaiah520

I think they were approached about him.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 1 @ 8:58 PM ET
I think they were approached about him.
- JAKEw1234

i think they'd much rather keep coby cause it'll be hard to replace him and regardless of the streit p/u, this D is still an issue going forward.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 9:01 PM ET
i think they'd much rather keep coby cause it'll be hard to replace him and regardless of the streit p/u, this D is still an issue going forward.
- isaiah520

Ya that's why they've apparently been much more keen to trade Mez, which is kind of what we've all been saying here since the end of the season.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jul 1 @ 9:02 PM ET
damn islanders and leaf fans all over this site poop talking about the flyers, amazing how much beer muscles making the playoffs ONCE IN 10 YEARS gives those fake ass, unknowledgeable fans.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 9:03 PM ET
Per Pistachio's blog:
"Turns out Canadiens' general manager Marc Bergevin tried to work a deal with Paul Holmgren to get his pick so they could pluck Morin.

I saw one website give the Flyers a "D" for Morin. I thought that was being far too harsh.

Historically, as bad as the Flyers have been in the draft AFTER the first round, they always get it right the first time. Simon Nolet has never steered them wrong with players from his territory in Quebec.

But I would take one step farther. If future Hall of Fame defenseman Chris Pronger evaluates a soon-to-be 18-year-old kid and says he has the tools to be a big, mean, shutdown, angry d-man like himself, I'm going with Pronger."

Pretty much what alot of us have been saying, but just thought I'd share for those that don't read his blog.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 9:03 PM ET
Ya that's why they've apparently been much more keen to trade Mez, which is kind of what we've all been saying here since the end of the season.
- JAKEw1234


Too bad mez's actual salary is sky high. Can the flyers take on some of the actual dollars in the remaining year?
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 9:03 PM ET
damn islanders and leaf fans all over this site poop talking about the flyers, amazing how much beer muscles making the playoffs ONCE IN 10 YEARS gives those fake ass, unknowledgeable fans.
- flyerscup2011


Relax. There are fans of the other 29 teams, you know.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 9:04 PM ET
damn islanders and leaf fans all over this site poop talking about the flyers, amazing how much beer muscles making the playoffs ONCE IN 10 YEARS gives those fake ass, unknowledgeable fans.
- flyerscup2011

Trolls up your ass?
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jul 1 @ 9:04 PM ET
Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 2m #Isles will place Rick DiPietro on waivers tomorrow for purpose of compliance buyout, Newsday has learned.

so they'll be paying him until my 2 and a half year old son is retired
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 9:05 PM ET
Too bad mez's actual salary is sky high. Can the flyers take on some of the actual dollars in the remaining year?
- Just5

yessir I believe so
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jul 1 @ 9:06 PM ET
Trolls up your ass?
- JAKEw1234


nah, i stopped part taking in that kind of thing. just amazing to see fans of those lost franchises poop talk a team that makes the playoffs every year
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 9:06 PM ET
Arthur Staple ‏@StapeNewsday 2m #Isles will place Rick DiPietro on waivers tomorrow for purpose of compliance buyout, Newsday has learned.

so they'll be paying him until my 2 and a half year old son is retired

- flyerscup2011

Is that the new biggest buyout?
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jul 1 @ 9:07 PM ET
Relax. There are fans of the other 29 teams, you know.
- Scoob


yea that's fine, but when your team is constantly out of the playoffs you really shouldn't bad mouth teams that always are in them.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 9:07 PM ET
nah, i stopped part taking in that kind of thing. just amazing to see fans of those lost franchises poop talk a team that makes the playoffs every year
- flyerscup2011

Don't get me wrong, Toronto is my least favorite team behind Pitt, but alot of those guys literally say what they do for the purpose of making easily irritable people angry. Welcome to the internet.
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jul 1 @ 9:09 PM ET
Is that the new biggest buyout?
- JAKEw1234


they're buying out 8 years of his contract, so i think that makes it the longest, his cap hit is only 4.5, so i doubt it's the biggest

fixed
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jul 1 @ 9:10 PM ET
Don't get me wrong, Toronto is my least favorite team behind Pitt, but alot of those guys literally say what they do for the purpose of making easily irritable people angry. Welcome to the internet.
- JAKEw1234


see, i don't really care so much it's just like "hello pot, meet mr kettle" ya know?
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 9:10 PM ET
yessir I believe so
- JAKEw1234


With the revenue sharing that goes on. Teams like the flyers should be allowed to excrete contracts like mez's on the Phoenix's and floridas of the world at will if we take on salary
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jul 1 @ 9:11 PM ET
With the revenue sharing that goes on. Teams like the flyers should be allowed to excrete contracts like mez's on the Phoenix's and floridas of the world at will if we take on salary
- Just5


seriously
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jul 1 @ 9:16 PM ET
With the revenue sharing that goes on. Teams like the flyers should be allowed to excrete contracts like mez's on the Phoenix's and floridas of the world at will if we take on salary
- Just5


cap hits, at least
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 9:18 PM ET
With the revenue sharing that goes on. Teams like the flyers should be allowed to excrete contracts like mez's on the Phoenix's and floridas of the world at will if we take on salary
- Just5

I think we can pay 50% of his real salary or something like that...
AGL_91
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: ON
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 1 @ 9:22 PM ET
Speaking of Toronto fans, I was listening to Jeff O'neil on TSN radio yesterday and he predicts that Vinnie will be the first NHL player to be bought out twice lol
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 1 @ 9:23 PM ET
Too bad mez's actual salary is sky high. Can the flyers take on some of the actual dollars in the remaining year?
- Just5


Yes, that's possible but I don't know that it would increase his value all that much. Other teams will still say he's a guy who has had back surgery, tore his Achilles tendon and had surgery, separated his shoulder and had a torn rotator cuff repaired surgically within a year PLUS he's a UFA after next season even if he is healthy?"

That doesn't mean another team won't take a chance on him being healthy. But it does mean they won't trade anything of value even if the Flyers eat part of the cap hit for next season.

The one thing that eating some salary on Flyers' own cap might do is open up a few more possible trading partners beyond floor teams. Most every team needs defensemen and Meszaros is a decent one when healthy.

steelydan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 04.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 9:25 PM ET
Speaking of Toronto fans, I was listening to Jeff O'neil on TSN radio yesterday and he predicts that Vinnie will be the first NHL player to be bought out twice lol
- AGL_91


If Jeff O'Neil was talking about using a second CBO, he should read some more and see that deals signed after the lockout ended aren't able to be CBO'ed.
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