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wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jul 1 @ 4:09 PM ET
Good points.

Devils got their goalie. Although they may be kicking themselves after passing on a chance to draft Nichushkin and Horvat. Time will tell.

Shedding Nino's 2.8 mill salary and a player who obviously wasnt happy on the Isle while adding Clutterbuck who hits, blocks shots, and has some offensive upside and played with Tavares is a big plus. They will sign him to a reasonable contract which will most likely be around half of Nino's cap hit.

- MrBigglesworth


Agreed. I respect Clutterbuck, would take him on the Flyers in a heartbeat, and am going to hate seeing him on the ice when we play the Isles.

The teams I'm watching our for in the next few seasons are Columbus, Buffalo and Montreal.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 4:09 PM ET
It's funny, the one thing that's not really up for debate is that the Flyers are without parallel when it comes to consistently making the right calls in the 1st-round.
- Tomahawk


Especially over the last decade. Every first rounder has become a regular NHL over that stretch, including several star level players.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 4:10 PM ET
Another center? Why didn't they take Maatta? This guy sucks!!
- Jsaquella



Kind of wish people would learn to look beyond consensus rankings, immediate need and silly comparables when they talk about prospects.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 4:10 PM ET
yes anyone who likes the pick is clearly just drinking the kool aid
- Crimsoninja


A little watered down for your liking?
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jul 1 @ 4:10 PM ET
Nobody knows how these kids are going to develop. But most of us put more faith in the Flyers scouts who actually watch these kids play year after year as opposed to people who poster on this or any other message board.
- wolfhounds


... who base our opinions on what other people who watch these kids play year after year have to say about them.
Bill Meltzer
Editor
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

Jul 1 @ 4:10 PM ET
You can't project Pulock as Shattenkirk. Shattenkirk is not only a point producer but a top pairing dman. He matches up against the best forwards. Pulock is very far from being anywhere near Shattenkirk
- PhillySportsGuy


He's far from being Shattenkirk at age 24 but has similarities to Shattenkirk at age 18. Actually, a better comparison player in terms of how I see Pulock in the long range is Dan Boyle.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 4:11 PM ET
A little watered down for your liking?
- Just5


Nope, just a lame ass, tired and over used put down routinely used by uncreative imbeciles.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 4:11 PM ET
In the 38 years since, they have been to the finals 6x, CF 3x and missed the playoffs 7x (5 straight, mostly under Jay S)........ill take "their" way
- KINGKENZO


It's been great
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 4:11 PM ET
I think you're wrong on that one.
- JAKEw1234


I concur
Crimsoninja
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dude, I am so sorry about whatever made you like this. Take it easy.
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:12 PM ET
A little watered down for your liking?
- Just5

where's your latest capgeek lineup? someone needs to show this team how its done!
hammarby31
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: it's been 84 years, AZ
Joined: 01.02.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:12 PM ET
we need to sign another goalie
- MrBigglesworth


they'll get one. they'll either go aging vet or potential starter to challenge mason. who knows?

gotta' admit i'm a bit steamed about the bob/bryz situation. and i don't want to hear "bob would never have turned into what he did in Columbus if he stayed here", which many have said. we'll have no idea. i don't think he's made massive adjustments to his game. small ones. that come with time and experience. no patience. he was a gift considering he went undrafted. i just hope mason gets his game back. he's big. quick. handles the puck well. i'm intrigued by his right catching hand, as i do think it poses a little bit of a wrinkle for shooters, because so few guys catch with that hand.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 4:12 PM ET
He's far from being Shattenkirk at age 24 but has similarities to Shattenkirk at age 18. Actually, a better comparison player in terms of how I see Pulock in the long range is Dan Boyle.
- bmeltzer

Do you have a comparable to Morin?
KINGKENZO
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: OMAR COMIN'..Head or Gut?.....Watching regular white people
Joined: 01.10.2008

Jul 1 @ 4:12 PM ET
It's been great
- Just5

rather be the Leafs?......Seriously
MrBigglesworth
Location: PA
Joined: 01.30.2008

Jul 1 @ 4:12 PM ET
Another center? Why didn't they take Maatta? This guy sucks!!
- Jsaquella


Maatta's stock fell considerably at last years draft... and he didnt exactly have a stellar Memorial Cup.

I dont think anyone was saying that about Laughton... he was still projected to go first round.

The Filip Forsberg trade is still the biggest surprise to me.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 4:13 PM ET
He's far from being Shattenkirk at age 24 but has similarities to Shattenkirk at age 18. Actually, a better comparison player in terms of how I see Pulock in the long range is Dan Boyle.
- bmeltzer


Bill! Don't feed into Bushunter's nonsense!
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jul 1 @ 4:13 PM ET
Do you have a comparable to Morin?
- JAKEw1234



Eric Lindros or Chris Pronger, take your pick.

or dare I say... Mike Richards!
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 1 @ 4:14 PM ET
where's your latest capgeek lineup? someone needs to show this team how its done!
- Crimsoninja

I cheated, I copied mine off hfboards to see people get mad about it.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 4:14 PM ET
Maatta's stock fell considerably at last years draft... and he didnt exactly have a stellar Memorial Cup.

I dont think anyone was saying that about Laughton... he was still projected to go first round.

The Filip Forsberg trade is still the biggest surprise to me.

- MrBigglesworth


Some people don't think Forsberg is going to be very good. That's what they were talking about on NHL network right after he was traded.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jul 1 @ 4:15 PM ET
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jul 1 @ 4:15 PM ET
Eric Lindros or Chris Pronger, take your pick.

or dare I say... Mike Richards!

- Tomahawk

Mike Richards in high heels?
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 4:15 PM ET
Eric Lindros or Chris Pronger, take your pick.

or dare I say... Mike Richards!

- Tomahawk


Every two way forward is projected as Mike Richards. The Flyers have Mike Richards II (Schenn), Mike Richards III (Coots) and Mike Richards IV (Laughton).
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jul 1 @ 4:15 PM ET
Mike Richards in high heels?
- JAKEw1234

Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 4:16 PM ET
rather be the Leafs?......Seriously
- KINGKENZO


Just saying, I think we're lucky.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 4:16 PM ET
Kind of wish people would learn to look beyond consensus rankings, immediate need and silly comparables when they talk about prospects.
- Tomahawk


Consensus rankings are well and good, but every team has it's own internal board and rates players different. I won't lie, I preferred Pulock and Zadorov, but I like Morin as well.

Just the overall negativity is tiresome.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jul 1 @ 4:17 PM ET
Jesus, could you imagine all the moronic negativity if the Flyers actually sucked, rather than being one of the more successful teams in the NHL over the past decade.

Yes, being reasonable and optimistic is obviously drinking Kool-Aid or being a spin doctor...so what is being a negative clown who constantly bashes the team for everything?

Oh, yeah. Tiresome and pointless.

- Jsaquella



it's fascinating for a minute and then it becomes unbearable
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