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JameyVinnick
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 05.09.2012

Jul 1 @ 11:58 AM ET
Yeah sorry, I don't know him personally so I do not know what kind of guy he is.
- MadManPaddy

Have you seen how he's handled the entire situation?
MadManPaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: BC
Joined: 08.02.2010

Jul 1 @ 11:59 AM ET
Sure they can. And Lu will. The problem I see is that this entire drama is viewed under a microscope. Even if Lu puts the past behind him and manages to plays well this year it could be a full season or more before the media relents on this storyline. I don't like it for Lu's sake nor his team mates. OH! And now Torts has to answer questions about this??? (LOL)
- nathanjf


Yes, Torts in the middle of all this should be very interesting (re: explosive!)

Anyone want dibs on how long it takes him to lose it on a reporter?
gunner2233
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.17.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:00 PM ET
I thought the deal was pretty bad, no matter how you look at it. Not a knock on the guy you got, but i thought Schneider was more in the Letang area...
- Deadmau55

Letang? Schneider is not considered a top end elite goalie, small sample size on a good team, he got zero Vezina votes. Bo Horvat is a cant miss forward prospect. Letang is in the running for the Norris every year.
riceroni
Ottawa Senators
Location: e5, ON
Joined: 07.29.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:03 PM ET
It's not as bad as people think. I think Luongo will be OK now that he is the man again. The problem now is the end of his contract in the dead years. But, the Canucks can buy him out near the end and take the smaller cap hit spread out over double the amount of years instead of the cap recapture penalty.

Honestly, they saved themselves a buyout and can now fix their D. Ballard will be bought out and next summer they can see if they need to use the other one. I'd keep Booth and next summer they can either buy him out or Garrison if he continues to struggle.
Fakepartofme
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Living rent free... in your head, ON
Joined: 09.20.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:04 PM ET
Gillis continues to be the worst GM in the league.
How does he still have a job.
MadManPaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: BC
Joined: 08.02.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:04 PM ET
Have you seen how he's handled the entire situation?
- JameyVinnick


Yes, I have. I live in the lower mainland.

Let's not forget though that he was essentially told he would be moved. As a matter of fact, he asked to be moved. Now, he is still there and the entire process has been a sham. I am not suggesting that Bobby-Lu is not professional and he will likely man-up but to suggest that he will be unaffected going forward might be wishful thinking.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:04 PM ET
I cant believe MacT didnt offer RNH and the 7th.
DarcyTucker16
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St.Albert, AB
Joined: 06.24.2011

Jul 1 @ 12:05 PM ET
kadri, gardiner, 1st... leaf fans are stupid... blaah blaah blaah


wait....


lkeh73
Vancouver Canucks
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.29.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:05 PM ET
I am from london where horvat played junior and ive had the privilege of watching this player grow into a legit nhler.like ian said soon you will be saying cory who.this guy is a workhorse at both ends of the ice and has a motor that just wont quit.smart skilled and tough you cant want much more from a player.yes cory is a good goalie, but are you fans forgetting how good luongo is, still top5 goalies in the league imo.this is not a backwards move for the nucks more of a leap forward to get the secondary scoring that you dont have and some extra toughness bo will drop em too and can hold his own.gl bo, you will be missed in a knights jersey.
- smackdaddy
Very well said. It's hard to appreciate the quality of player and person he is. I expect him to captain the knights next year, if he returns, and in the future he will captain the Canucks.

As far as i'm concerned, i think Bo is ready to make the step as much as anybody, but another year in London will be best for him.. let him come in for 2014-2015, after he wins the memorial cup. I don't think it's a stretch to consider him a future Selke worthy player.
rocketpilot
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:05 PM ET
Yes, Torts in the middle of all this should be very interesting (re: explosive!)
- MadManPaddy

imagine if luongo demands an out .... they send him out
and sign ...
bryzard of oz !!!!
ohhhh vancouver is so funny !!!
davecervo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vaughan, ON
Joined: 07.24.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:05 PM ET
*** thank god the new CBA prevents idiot GMs like gillis from signing these ridiculously stupid brain dead contracts. The new CBA protects owners and GMs from themselves *** #gillisisabum
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 1 @ 12:06 PM ET
Letang? Schneider is not considered a top end elite goalie, small sample size on a good team, he got zero Vezina votes. Bo Horvat is a cant miss forward prospect. Letang is in the running for the Norris every year.
- gunner2233

There are very few "cant miss" prospects, and they are usually in the top 3.
davecervo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vaughan, ON
Joined: 07.24.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:06 PM ET
Gillis continues to be the worst GM in the league.
How does he still have a job.

- Fakepartofme


It baffles all of us!!!
BodyCheckRadio
Joined: 10.19.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:06 PM ET
Ian Esplen: Thoughts on the Schneider deal
it's over

- IanEsplen


No matter how anyone spins this, Gillis embarrassed your franchise and continues to do so as well. The way he handled this, only to turn and trade CS is a total joke. He basically starts the train to run Lu out of town, then has to have his owner crawl back to Luongo (who probably doesnt even want to be there). Then, to get so little for a proven NHL starter who has a 'franchise goalie' written all over him. I dont care if EDM is offering more, you have to take the best deal given how poorly you handled this. I think when its all said and done, the 'Gillis' era will be one that Canuck fans will look back on in shame.

JameyVinnick
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 05.09.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:06 PM ET
imagine if luongo demands an out .... they send him out
and sign ...
bryzard of oz !!!!
ohhhh vancouver is so funny !!!

- rocketpilot

Wanna contribute something intelligent?
JameyVinnick
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 05.09.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:07 PM ET
Gillis continues to be the worst GM in the league.
How does he still have a job.

- Fakepartofme

His teams have made the playoffs 5 straight years?
MadManPaddy
Montreal Canadiens
Location: BC
Joined: 08.02.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:08 PM ET
Wanna contribute something intelligent?
- JameyVinnick


Settle down! None of us here are writing for the New York times. Sheesh.
davecervo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vaughan, ON
Joined: 07.24.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:08 PM ET
Wanna contribute something intelligent?
- JameyVinnick


Maybe Gillis should of contributed some sort of intelligence and traded Luongo last year.
lkeh73
Vancouver Canucks
Location: London, ON
Joined: 04.29.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:08 PM ET
No matter how anyone spins this, Gillis embarrassed your franchise and continues to do so as well. The way he handled this, only to turn and trade CS is a total joke. He basically starts the train to run Lu out of town, then has to have his owner crawl back to Luongo (who probably doesnt even want to be there). Then, to get so little for a proven NHL starter who has a 'franchise goalie' written all over him. I dont care if EDM is offering more, you have to take the best deal given how poorly you handled this. I think when its all said and done, the 'Gillis' era will be one that Canuck fans will look back on in shame.
- BodyCheckRadio

Actually all he did was disclose too much to the media. He should've just kept his mouth shut. He said it himself, they didn't see Schneider becoming this good and he had a feeling all along they'd have to trade him. Why do you think they signed Lu for 12 years?
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Jul 1 @ 12:09 PM ET
Hilarious change of direction in the fans/blogger's opinion.

This was an embarassment.


Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:09 PM ET
Good return for Schneider. Fair deal for both sides. Jersey gets a replacement for Brodeur. Vancouver gets Horvat who looks like he will be an amazing 2 way player. A younger version of Kesler without the diving. I think he will be the captain of the Canucks down the road. Loungo is apparently upset but he's a professional and won't breach his contract as some have said. Probably gonna be the starter for Canada at Sochi. Still wish you guys had bought him out so we could sign him for a shorter term.
rocketpilot
Joined: 06.03.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:09 PM ET
Wanna contribute something intelligent?
- JameyVinnick

intelligent ???? in vancouver ????
hahaha.....
with gillis, totrs,bryz ......
they should bring back avery too....
would have higher ratings for your pressers than your games .....
davecervo
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vaughan, ON
Joined: 07.24.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:10 PM ET
His teams have made the playoffs 5 straight years?
- JameyVinnick


Any GM could of taken over and made the playoffs for 5 years. Wasn't really his team that made the playoffs!
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jul 1 @ 12:10 PM ET
I don't think anyone is suggesting he will breach his contract but if he really doesn't want to be there then why would they keep him. Luongo could make this difficult for the Canucks/Gillis if he wanted to.
- MadManPaddy

He would hit the waiver wire pretty quick. So starter in the NHL or AHL or maybe a team does pick him up off waivers. No e will be a pro as he has been through this hole debacle.
JameyVinnick
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 05.09.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:11 PM ET
intelligent ???? in vancouver ????
hahaha.....
with gillis, totrs,bryz ......
they should bring back avery too....
would have higher ratings for your pressers than your games .....

- rocketpilot

They don't have Bryz and they won't sign Bryz
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