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HouseArrest187
Edmonton Oilers
Location: ITS ON LIKE DONKEYKONG.... You know.... If he was sitting on a porch..., SK
Joined: 08.01.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:49 AM ET
Yup, he got a pretty good return for the circumstances.
- Scooby_Doo


Yep, sure was rnh and the 7th.
time2produce
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:50 AM ET
If the oilers were smart they would go with what works like MacT as the coach and bring in a GM with experience[Brian Burke] . Or hey lets go with two rookies hmmm mact u have any experience as a GM? Then u should hire a rookie coach Eakins. Lets hope Eakins is a better coach then Mac t as a GM. I do think there wasn't a lot to do for any GM but old burke would have atleast traded Eberle for byfuglien.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:50 AM ET
Seriously no one else likes Yakimov?

He is 6'4, 201 pounds, gets into the dirty areas, also plays a good Power Forward type of game, He also is pretty skilled. And he is that Centre you people always complain about. This was a good pick up.

Here's my theory.

MacT was actually building the bottom part of the line up Yakimov and everyone else. He can possibly be on the LW as well, like a line of:

Hall-Nuge-Yakupov
Yakimov-Gagner-Eberle

If not, than Oilers can possibly sign Clowe to go on the second line left wing. But only time will tell of what will happen.

- Oilers4Life14

I like him but he's got a ways to go. Has yet to play a KHL game. Think he's more of a 3rd line player when he arrives.
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jul 1 @ 12:53 AM ET
So we'll have to watch Zykov and Carrier. We traded out of each of their picks. Do they become footnotes? Or Zach Parises?

On the other hand, this might be the largest crop of humans the Oil have ever drafted.

- Morris



I actually wished Toronto could have drafted those two
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:53 AM ET
You my friend are DUMB! Look at the Oilers depth chart in the minors for D and look at it for forwards..... Tell me again what they need? They NEED a RIGHT NOW dman not a prospect! ALso not getting Nichushkin is a HUGE hole they could and should have filled today with drafting him as a power forward compared to OV, Malkin and NAsh..... BUt NO Mac T poops the bed and drafts a useless (right now) player!
- undisputed_8821


50/50. We need some forwards for sure, on the farm for futures. But I think Nurse is a good pick. Could be the perfect guy to play with Schultz if Klefbom don't pan out.
I dont think we need anymore high end talent on the top 2 lines. Some size and grit and defensive skills is all those kids need. I can't think of the perfect player right now, but a young Ryan Smyth type, a pre-injured Colby Armstrong, Ryan Malone type maybe.
deks1
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 02.13.2012

Jul 1 @ 12:54 AM ET
Seriously no one else likes Yakimov?

He is 6'4, 201 pounds, gets into the dirty areas, also plays a good Power Forward type of game, He also is pretty skilled. And he is that Centre you people always complain about. This was a good pick up.

Here's my theory.

MacT was actually building the bottom part of the line up Yakimov and everyone else. He can possibly be on the LW as well, like a line of:

Hall-Nuge-Yakupov
Yakimov-Gagner-Eberle

If not, than Oilers can possibly sign Clowe to go on the second line left wing. But only time will tell of what will happen.

- Oilers4Life14


doesn't matter to me, not many of these prospects are going to play in the nhl say 2-3 years minimum other than nurse. they can stay in their respective leagues to develop and then we'll see who's worth handing a elc to.
derm10
Joined: 09.08.2010

Jul 1 @ 12:54 AM ET
And I get paid for it, too.

What's your point?

- Maxbone

ur the reason i cancelled my season ticket
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:55 AM ET
If the oilers were smart they would go with what works like MacT as the coach and bring in a GM with experience
- time2produce[Brian Burke] . Or hey lets go with two rookies hmmm mact u have any experience as a GM? Then u should hire a rookie coach Eakins. Lets hope Eakins is a better coach then Mac t as a GM. I do think there wasn't a lot to do for any GM but old burke would have atleast traded Eberle for byfuglien.


I'm sure happy Burke is not our GM. Buff is a fat slob that will be out of the league in under 5 years.
Oilersfyr
Joined: 06.29.2013

Jul 1 @ 12:57 AM ET
no one wants to come here, this is why we have to draft and overpayments isn't the answer. People have to realize its going to be 2 or 3 years before we can get better if no one wants to come here.
- time2produce


Agreed EDM is a tough sell to free agents however the young core of skilled players should be more enticing now. Besides as soon as they traded 37 I thought they should have kept it. Fucale was just taken but what do they have bunz and Olivier Roy for top goalie prospects? Comrie and jarry immediately would of topped those 2 for goalie depth even if its a few years down the road I'm not so sure the goalie depth hart is strong right now. Look at what leafs gave for bolland. Wow 3rd liner exactly what EDM needs to play now. Anyways I guess it is what it is. I do think teams prefer opposite conference trade partners I can see how being GM isn't as easy as we think.
redwolf
New York Islanders
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 03.12.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:04 AM ET
Clouts. Your jumping ahead to far man. The good moves could be around the corner. They didnt have to happen in one day. To dramatic bro. Have a drink and relax a minute.
- poisondhearts37


1. I'm good with picking Nurse at 7.
2. Still have an opportunity to improve the team with some UFA signings.
3. Not the end of the world if Hemsky and Horcoff are playing for the Oil in October but will be the end of the world if they are still here next year!
4. Glad we avoided the Schneider fiasco.
5. We can still improve the D with Coburn or Ranger.
6. For sure D already better with Whitney gone and and our young Dmen all one year older and wiser.
7. Add Emery to tandem with Dubey and goal tending is improved.
8. Add a Clowe or Weiss or Horton and our top 9 is improved.
9. Clouts, you said we were going to suck for another season any way so too early to be impatient with new management.

TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 1 @ 1:06 AM ET
Didnt read the blog. Here's what Im guessing it sounded like:

"blah blah derp Mactavish is the worst OILERS SUCK der der derp durrr Nurse terrible. Mmm donuts. Hurrrrrrr. The end."
Hemsky4Prez
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 07.06.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:08 AM ET
Wow, Cloutier...you have finally proved what I have speculated all year reading your blogs..... You sir are completely out to lunch and clearly have no clue about the business of NHL hockey.
Nurse was the best pick available to them at 7th, and he will be a future 1-2 d-man in the NHL.

The odd time you are able to write somthing rather entertaining, but for the most part, you are a disgrace to real Oiler fans!

ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:11 AM ET
So what did you go for like 2 out of 30 clout's? And only because you copied somebody else's top ten draft picks so you essentially got lucky. You really put your hockey knowledge and reliable sources on display today.
ruttager17
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Don't worry about me, worry about yourself". -EKLB DNZ supreme , AB
Joined: 10.21.2011

Jul 1 @ 1:12 AM ET
Didnt read the blog. Here's what Im guessing it sounded like:

"blah blah derp Mactavish is the worst OILERS SUCK der der derp durrr Nurse terrible. Mmm donuts. Hurrrrrrr. The end."

- TheTaoOfSemenko

TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 1 @ 1:15 AM ET
I love how excited people get over draft picks in the 2nd round like they mean something lol. The amount of 2nd rounders that make the NHL for more than a few games is not high, yet somehow on draft day theyre all great and trading them is a war crime.

Mactavish's only error was in getting Oilhurrrr Nation all worked up and they were all expecting mountains to be moved today. Welcome to reality folks.Most of the movement will be after the draft. Show some patience for a (frank)in change. Machete wielding savages.
BodyCheckRadio
Joined: 10.19.2010

Jul 1 @ 1:16 AM ET
Ottawa has great management.
deadsector
Edmonton Oilers
Location: sherwood park, AB
Joined: 01.08.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:16 AM ET
Clouts, you really are an idiot. All those guys you named usless, mcbain not very good, seikera depth D, clutterbuck, has issues with hall the two wouldn't have been able to get along on the same team, nidimier, atatude issues not as good as you think either. Now about nurse general feeling is that you've got a big mouth with no brains when it comes to him. About 90% of people i've talked to are very happy with him. Now i'll admit this much I wanted Necheskin (or however the Frank you spell it) to play with yakupov, but nurse fills a need that we have. And dispite all you say the oilers D prospects are mostly guys with a lot of raw talent but most of them will not pan out. Nurse seems to be a lock. Lastly about trades, you did notice that macT was not the only one that didn't do anything as far as roster players go. There are twenty-nine other teams who have their on agenda's mact can't just make trades because clouts feels bored. That and things move very fast down there, plans need to be changed and adjusted on the fly and that leaves very little time for trades to come through on draft day most of them get started on draft day but come through a few days later thats how it goes and you're blind as a bat to not have relized that by now. We drafted 8 fowards and 2 D this year. Roy looks like a solid future third line LW Yakinov is a mosse, mabe you'll be calling him the next lucic in a few years dispite the fact you'll still nknow nothhing about him. A boring day yes, but not just for the oilers, the draft is way overhyped as a day that lots of trades happen on thats not the case as the last number of years have shown. This was a deep draft, the fact that you don't care about anything outside of the top round proves the fact that you don't understand this very well. The draft is about taking as few risks as possible risks can come via possible trades and free agency but frankly you can't afford to give up picks for guys that might not help you. See detroit please tell me where dysuck and zettenberg were drafted please. THere are always those dimonds in themine and you can't afford to pass them up. Lastly the general feeling is that MacT did a good job today much better then feasters first run at the draft, he clearly listened to his scouts and that is very importaint, it means he is willing to take advice and let his people do their jobs as well as knowing his own. WHitch is to improve the oilers, and not to make stupid trades, in that regard he has already proven himself better then ST and if on friday he does nothing because there is nothing for him then that in itself is a bold move and a smart one, he refuses to overpay we shall see about that later this week but for now i give him a 7 out of 10 for this draft. Not a bad score.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:19 AM ET
Didnt read the blog. Here's what Im guessing it sounded like:

"blah blah derp Mactavish is the worst OILERS SUCK der der derp durrr Nurse terrible. Mmm donuts. Hurrrrrrr. The end."

- TheTaoOfSemenko


Pretty much.
Jack-artist
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Yakapoo is khl bound. After t, AB
Joined: 01.27.2010

Jul 1 @ 1:19 AM ET
This was a good draft for the Oilers at least in terms of picks.

Nurse was a guy I wanted and his top pairing D potential coupled with him being a low risk prospect makes him a good pick based on draft slot and who was available.

We needed to re-stock our forward prospects and we took some Russians with nice upside in Slepy and Yakimov, a good two-way guy in Marco Roy, some bigger players who scored at lower levels, a boom-bust pick in Greg Chase, Bettker a project D.

Overall, I like enough of the players we ended up taking.
TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 1 @ 1:19 AM ET
Paragraphs: they make reading stuff less gay and boring.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:20 AM ET
I love how excited people get over draft picks in the 2nd round like they mean something lol. The amount of 2nd rounders that make the NHL for more than a few games is not high, yet somehow on draft day theyre all great and trading them is a war crime.

Mactavish's only error was in getting Oilhurrrr Nation all worked up and they were all expecting mountains to be moved today. Welcome to reality folks.Most of the movement will be after the draft. Show some patience for a (frank)in change. Machete wielding savages.

- TheTaoOfSemenko

TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 1 @ 1:20 AM ET
This was a good draft for the Oilers at least in terms of picks.

Nurse was a guy I wanted and his top pairing D potential coupled with him being a low risk prospect makes him a good pick based on draft slot and who was available.

We needed to re-stock our forward prospects and we took some Russians with nice upside in Slepy and Yakimov, a good two-way guy in Marco Roy, some bigger players who scored at lower levels, a boom-bust pick in Greg Chase, Bettker a project D.

Overall, I like enough of the players we ended up taking.

- Jack-artist

Pretty much.

Clouts twitter pic fills me with rage. I unfollowed already because of this.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:21 AM ET
Clouts, you really are an idiot. All those guys you named usless, mcbain not very good, seikera depth D, clutterbuck, has issues with hall the two wouldn't have been able to get along on the same team, nidimier, atatude issues not as good as you think either. Now about nurse general feeling is that you've got a big mouth with no brains when it comes to him. About 90% of people i've talked to are very happy with him. Now i'll admit this much I wanted Necheskin (or however the Frank you spell it) to play with yakupov, but nurse fills a need that we have. And dispite all you say the oilers D prospects are mostly guys with a lot of raw talent but most of them will not pan out. Nurse seems to be a lock. Lastly about trades, you did notice that macT was not the only one that didn't do anything as far as roster players go. There are twenty-nine other teams who have their on agenda's mact can't just make trades because clouts feels bored. That and things move very fast down there, plans need to be changed and adjusted on the fly and that leaves very little time for trades to come through on draft day most of them get started on draft day but come through a few days later thats how it goes and you're blind as a bat to not have relized that by now. We drafted 8 fowards and 2 D this year. Roy looks like a solid future third line LW Yakinov is a mosse, mabe you'll be calling him the next lucic in a few years dispite the fact you'll still nknow nothhing about him. A boring day yes, but not just for the oilers, the draft is way overhyped as a day that lots of trades happen on thats not the case as the last number of years have shown. This was a deep draft, the fact that you don't care about anything outside of the top round proves the fact that you don't understand this very well. The draft is about taking as few risks as possible risks can come via possible trades and free agency but frankly you can't afford to give up picks for guys that might not help you. See detroit please tell me where dysuck and zettenberg were drafted please. THere are always those dimonds in themine and you can't afford to pass them up. Lastly the general feeling is that MacT did a good job today much better then feasters first run at the draft, he clearly listened to his scouts and that is very importaint, it means he is willing to take advice and let his people do their jobs as well as knowing his own. WHitch is to improve the oilers, and not to make stupid trades, in that regard he has already proven himself better then ST and if on friday he does nothing because there is nothing for him then that in itself is a bold move and a smart one, he refuses to overpay we shall see about that later this week but for now i give him a 7 out of 10 for this draft. Not a bad score.
- deadsector

Holy sh!t I have a headache!
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jul 1 @ 1:22 AM ET
Paragraphs: they make reading stuff less gay and boring.
- TheTaoOfSemenko

TheTaoOfSemenko
Vegas Golden Knights
Joined: 07.01.2009

Jul 1 @ 1:22 AM ET
Holy sh!t I have a headache!
- Jeropotato

Couldnt make it past sentance #2.
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