ya in a half season where you guys got unreal goaltending for the majority of it and the rangers played terrible for the first 3/4ths of it.

whatever. this is a useless argument. come talk when you guys win a round in the playoffs or better yet, make it 2 years in a row.
- rangerdanger94

Like you get every year. Basically the only reason you guys make the postseason regularly?

yes because an offense with brad boyes and matt moulson as some of the top scorers is so much more intimidating
- rangerdanger94

Boyes is gone but I would take Nino Strome over Kredier everyday of the week. I would take Moulson over any of your forwards minus Callahan. And JT is far and away the best forward in NY

Like you get every year. Basically the only reason you guys make the postseason regularly?
- mighty13duck

yes but lundqvist does it consistently every season. nabakov did it on an unreal run that he won't replicate. that is the difference.

Clowe???

agree to disagree.

Kreider - Richards - Nash
Clowe - Stepan - Callahan
Hagelin - Brassard - Miller
Dorsett - Hendricks - Boyle

watch out for that next season baby
- rangerdanger94

Would you rather have Kreider - Richards - Nash or Moulson - JT - Strome?

yes but lundqvist does it consistently every season. nabakov did it on an unreal run that he won't replicate. that is the difference.
- rangerdanger94

I agree which is why I want a better younger goalie. Without a good goalie I see us missing the playoffs. No arguments here. With a good goalie I see us as a contender

Boyes is gone but I would take Nino Strome over Kredier everyday of the week. I would take Moulson over any of your forwards minus Callahan. And JT is far and away the best forward in NY
- mighty13duck

nino and strome are different players from kreider. kreider is a power forward that is arguably the fastest player in the league capable of scoring 25-30 goals a season and nino is more of a finesse sniper and strome is a playmaker. you guys have a good future, but you need to wait for those kids to develop a little more. once they have 2-4 years of nhl experience, then you guys will really be contenders. but until then, you guys are just too young imo.

and you would take moulson over stepan, a 22 year old center who scored at almost a PPG pace this season, or nash?

The reason the offers were underwhelming, Letang will not put up numbers like he did in Pittsburgh, elsewhere.

He's worth more to Pittsburgh than he is another team. He knew this and Pittsburgh finally realized it by overpaying.
- cdnhash

Overpaying??

The pens initial offer was 7 million per... he signed for 7.25 allegedly.... not too badif they were willing to go to 7.

Also fans of other teams need to look at the pens organizational depth. Yes they may be right to the cap.... if dupuis can be resigned them the top 6 is set for the next 2 seasons. .. they also have 3-4 high end d prospects who should be able to log some nhl time as soon as the end of this year or 2014 who will be playing in their entry level deal.

If the cap goes up and niskanen and possibly Kennedy aren't extended past next year then you are potentially talking 6 million in extra cap space after factoring in letangs raise. Combine that with the low cap hit young guys and by the time 2015 rolls around malkin crosby an letangs deals will look like good value when subban gets 9.5-10 a year from someone

Would you rather have Kreider - Richards - Nash or Moulson - JT - Strome?
- NYI44

if richards can become elite again, kreider - richards - nash. if not, kreider - stepan - nash ALL DAY ERRY DAY

Finally teams are realizing a good player with a so-so contract is worth little to nothing in a capped system. I like Letang as a player and don't even mind the number he's getting, but you can't give up assets and then give him that deal.

Not sure how the Pens are going to keep Crosby, Letang and Malikin surrounded by a decent supporting cast with the money they're making.

I don't hate Phaneuf but would give him away for nothing at his cap number. At 5 million he would have some value.

nino and strome are different players from kreider. kreider is a power forward that is arguably the fastest player in the league capable of scoring 25-30 goals a season and nino is more of a finesse sniper and strome is a playmaker. you guys have a good future, but you need to wait for those kids to develop a little more. once they have 2-4 years of nhl experience, then you guys will really be contenders. but until then, you guys are just too young imo.

and you would take moulson over stepan, a 22 year old center who scored at almost a PPG pace this season, or nash?
- rangerdanger94

Wouldn't want Nash cap hit for that many years. And we have enough centers. Kreider 25-30 goals? I will believe it when I see it.

if richards can become elite again, kreider - richards - nash. if not, kreider - stepan - nash ALL DAY ERRY DAY
- rangerdanger94

Overpaying??

The pens initial offer was 7 million per... he signed for 7.25 allegedly.... not too badif they were willing to go to 7.

Also fans of other teams need to look at the pens organizational depth. Yes they may be right to the cap.... if dupuis can be resigned them the top 6 is set for the next 2 seasons. .. they also have 3-4 high end d prospects who should be able to log some nhl time as soon as the end of this year or 2014 who will be playing in their entry level deal.

If the cap goes up and niskanen and possibly Kennedy aren't extended past next year then you are potentially talking 6 million in extra cap space after factoring in letangs raise. Combine that with the low cap hit young guys and by the time 2015 rolls around malkin crosby an letangs deals will look like good value when subban gets 9.5-10 a year from someone
- Yonk1216

did he get some sort of NTC that he was looking for though?

Wouldn't want Nash cap hit for that many years. And we have enough centers. Kreider 25-30 goals? I will believe it when I see it.
- mighty13duck

nash's cap hit is a bargain man. playoffs aside, he was everything he was advertised to be and more. dude is just sooooo unreal. JT might be better but nash is very, very close.

a lot of the rangers success next season depends on kreider potting 25-30 goals. he certainly has the tools and potential to do so, but yes, we will have to see. he killed it in the playoffs the year before this one when torts told him to just play how he normally plays and then sucked when torts tried to turn him into a defense-first forward. hopefully with AV, he can break out.

but yes, we all have to wait and see. just like we have to wait and see if the isles will be contenders next season. a lot changes when pressure is applied to a squad...especially a young one. and until now, the isles have never felt any.

Finally teams are realizing a good player with a so-so contract is worth little to nothing in a capped system. I like Letang as a player and don't even mind the number he's getting, but you can't give up assets and then give him that deal.

Not sure how the Pens are going to keep Crosby, Letang and Malikin surrounded by a decent supporting cast with the money they're making.

I don't hate Phaneuf but would give him away for nothing at his cap number. At 5 million he would have some value.
- hockey123

his cap hit is 6.5M for one more season, and he is only being paid 5.5M. i guess it's a good thing you arent running toronto because he has a lot of value especially if his next deal is around the 5M mark which it probably would be. there's a reason why his name is being mentioned in rumors for the 5th overall, but sure i guess we can also guess that he might be given away for nothing because of his cap hit...

- mighty13duck

bro that Moulson - JT - Strome line is a 1 man line with JT. moulson would be ass if he was centered by any other player than JT and strome is just a kid still.

I just hope that Reid Boucher kid can continue his torrid pace. He busted Stamko's scoring record.

I would take Kovalchuk - Henrique - Boucher over either of those lines...

A lot of that depends on whether or not Boucher can replicate his success in the big boys league.

Sign and trade?

With Pittsburgh's salary structure they are going to have to find depth players from the local beer league. Lots of money tied up in just a few guys.
- kwolf68

unfortunately the new contract is not official until July (after the draft). Which means if they do trade Letang it is during next year's draft when they will have a hard time affording him.

They couldn't score a goal when the playoffs started.
- NYI44

isles couldn't stop a goal!

Your'e right if you take Hank away Rangers are doomed.

But if you take Taveras away Isles are even worse.

bro that Moulson - JT - Strome line is a 1 man line with JT. moulson would be ass if he was centered by any other player than JT and strome is just a kid still.
- rangerdanger94

Moulson can put the puck in the net regardless who he plays with. That is pretty much all he is good for. As for Strome I don't even think he will be up with the big club next year. But once he does get brought up I expect big things from him.

isles couldn't stop a goal!

Your'e right if you take Hank away Rangers are doomed.

But if you take Taveras away Isles are even worse.
- lileapers

I agree. Most Isles fans would agree with this too!

bro that Moulson - JT - Strome line is a 1 man line with JT. moulson would be ass if he was centered by any other player than JT and strome is just a kid still.
- rangerdanger94

I can't say Moulson would be great without JT but hes playing with him and scoring 30 goals. As long as he is performing, it doesnt really matter with who hes playing with. Strome is the top prospect whose supposed to be very good and JT is just amazing so I'd take that line.

isles couldn't stop a goal!

Your'e right if you take Hank away Rangers are doomed.

But if you take Taveras away Isles are even worse.
- lileapers

Absolutely! I completely agree

Moulson can put the puck in the net regardless who he plays with. That is pretty much all he is good for. As for Strome I don't even think he will be up with the big club next year. But once he does get brought up I expect big things from him.
- mighty13duck

but would he be a consistent 30 goal scorer? not so sure about that....

and yes, strome is an unbelievable talent. but it will take him 3-4 years of being in the nhl before he hits his prime, along with the majority of your roster, and you guys really contend if you know what i mean.

but would he be a consistent 30 goal scorer? not so sure about that....

and yes, strome is an unbelievable talent. but it will take him 3-4 years of being in the nhl before he hits his prime, along with the majority of your roster, and you guys really contend if you know what i mean.
- rangerdanger94

I don't think it will take Strome 4 years to produce. He already has some good development going on. I expect him to produce as soon as he is brought up.