Generally okay... I like the Bolland trade. Not sure about Gaulthier, but I look forward to being proven wrong in a few years time.

What about yourself?
- lumlums

I am with you Lums.. Bolland great move... but Gauthier I think with his size will turn into an offensive weapon once he fully appreciates his size. This year he played in his comfort zone... on the D side.. he has got good hands from what the scouts say.. I personally think because Gillis selected elsewhere that is where the bust will be he is the JFJ of the modern era...

A hulking center with good hands is the future... really good that we could steal him from the Dirty Midgets.

So what's everyone thinking right now?

I think Nonis did a decent job yesterday, and over the last few weeks.

Bolland and Bernier added to the roster.

Gauthier is another big centre that with time will work out.

So bye bye Bozak. Too bad that I couldn't say the same for Grabs, as I really don't think it'll work out for him here, but I guess one more year to prove his worth before buying him out is ok.

Does anyone here think Colborne will be on the team next year? Is there room at centre for him?
- AngryWhiteMale

Three draft picks for another 3rd line center....great just what we needed. I hope Nonis has a trade coming down the pipe line and a vinny signing to announce.
One of our centers will have to be shipped out.

Bernier actually came in relatively cheap. Young, and insurance in case Reimer doesn't pan out.

There's a very good possiblity that Reimer and Bernier turn into good goalies, and we get the opportunity to flip one of them down the road for more than the sum of what we paid for Bernier.

I admit I was a big Frattin fan too, and think he'll be a good pro, but we had to give to get
- AngryWhiteMale

could make a similar type deal to that of schneider for a top 10 pick with one of reimer or bernier later on. frattin was good, but he's easily replaceable

Vinnie may be better than what we have, he definitely fills some voids we have "big body" leadership etc..... but he sure as heck is not a #1 centre anymore..... I want to start seriously contending for the cup in 3 years and a couple of good cheap(some of our prospects panout) playing top 4 minutes on D will allow us to spend some money on star power. Vinnie's K at 5-6 million would be an albatross by then because he will be closer to a 3rd line center
- jribout

What constitutes a #1 centre to you?

Lecavalier was over 0.8ppg this last season.

That's well within #1 centre production if you ask me

I agree Zykov intrigued me... I think Gauthier becomes a very good 2nd liner... he is a late developer... I was afraid of Erne because his production was way higher with Grigo there than without and as much as Garth overrates him he was a man amongst boys in the Q this year...
- jribout

so when erne plays with good players he plays better? isn't that what you want? kadri has amazing play making abilities, i'm sure he could do the same for erne that grigo did.

No but its worth it ..Vinny at 33 years old for 6 mill is fair
- CarlitoBrigante

I agree. Any time I've watch Tampa I've still been impressed with LeCavalier. He definitely has some hockey left.

I like Bolland.. he is a winner and highly competitive.. and as Nonis said he scored major points in Jr.. the fact he played behind great players for years probably hampered him. But he is a winner.. as competitive as they come.. and has won repeatedly at every level.

This competitive streak has led him to be injury prone.. just check out his wrap sheet.. but most of them were minor injuries although he has had concussion issues. He plays hard and goes to the dirty areas, few Leafs do.. so it is an improvement. His Stanley Cup winning goal was proof of that.

I like the trade.. Bernier though I thought we gave too much for... and it was a slap in the face to Reimer.. who as I predicted made a bad team good... the goalies were never to blame in Toronto it was the defense core that allowed so many repeat grand chances.

Maybe Nonis feels bad for Gillis and his JFJ type management and wants to create his own issues... fortunately I think Reimer is a good kid.. and this will ony make him better.
- DoctorNHL

Considering what Schneider got, yes. 9th overall is nothing to sneeze at, but Frattin and Scrivens are NHLers, just at what level is to be determined; Horvat? Who knows.

I am with you Lums.. Bolland great move... but Gauthier I think with his size will turn into an offensive weapon once he fully appreciates his size. This year he played in his comfort zone... on the D side.. he has got good hands from what the scouts say.. I personally think because Gillis selected elsewhere that is where the bust will be he is the JFJ of the modern era...

A hulking center with good hands is the future... really good that we could steal him from the Dirty Midgets.
- DoctorNHL

Amen

If Nonis had the Bolland deal on the table, then knowing he wouldn't have a 2nd rounder and a 4th it was probably in his best interests to go with a safe first round choice.

Plus we need to accept the fact that the 3-4 picks before Gauthier were all guys we though would have been more ideal, and yet they just snuck out of our reach, so i can't fault Nonis there.
- AngryWhiteMale

that makes sense when you put it that way, and yea i think the leafs wanted 1 of lazar, rychel or mantha, especially over gauthier.

What constitutes a #1 centre to you?

Lecavalier was over 0.8ppg this last season.

That's well within #1 centre production if you ask me
- Dozzer

And that's 0.8 ppg in a diminished role. Throw him between Kessel andJvR/Lupes and watch what happens

Bernier actually came in relatively cheap. Young, and insurance in case Reimer doesn't pan out.

There's a very good possiblity that Reimer and Bernier turn into good goalies, and we get the opportunity to flip one of them down the road for more than the sum of what we paid for Bernier.

I admit I was a big Frattin fan too, and think he'll be a good pro, but we had to give to get
- AngryWhiteMale

Cheap was the Schneider trade... like you I think Frattin has great hands and it was only a matter of time before Carlyle had him playing properly, on a consistent basis... that boy needs to use his low density to create space.. and then shoot.. with the space he makes..

Although I agree with you if Bernier handles this situation well as Reimer always has.. we will be trading him in a year for some decent return. Most likely a First round pick + .

Hopefully in the McDavid year from a team at the bottom.

And that's 0.8 ppg in a diminished role. Throw him between Kessel andJvR/Lupes and watch what happens
- lumlums

Lecavalier is a point producer... Always has been. My concern with obtaining him is that he's never been the biggest back checker by any stretch. Might not do well under Carlyle.

Leafs Blueprint with projected salaries to restricted free agents

Forwards

JVR (4.25) Kadri (3.75) Kessel (5.4)

Lupul (5.25) Grabovski (5.5) Clarkson (5.25)

McClement (1.5) Bolland (3.375) Kulemin (2.8)

McLaren (0.7) Coborne(0.85) Orr (0.925)

Free agent pick to add depth/,Marlie (0.8)


Defensemen

Gunnarsson (1.75) Phaneuf (6.5)

Gardiner (1.2) Franson (4.0)

Fraser (0.9) Holzer (0.79)

Free agent pickup/Marlie?


Komisarek and Liles bought out - Brings back 7.5m in capspace


Bernier (2.25)

Reimer (1.8)


Armstrong,Tucker buyouts + retained salary = 2.5m


Capspace - 3.4m

Lecavalier is a point producer... Always has been. My concern with obtaining him is that he's never been the biggest back checker by any stretch. Might not do well under Carlyle.
- Dozzer

hmm, words they used to say about kessel before carlyle came here, maybe carlyle can do the same for lecav

Three draft picks for another a real 3rd line center....great just what we needed. I hope Nonis has a trade coming down the pipe line and a vinny signing to announce.
One of our centers will have to be shipped out.
- Fakepartofme

Fixed that for you.

Three draft picks for another 3rd line center....great just what we needed. I hope Nonis has a trade coming down the pipe line and a vinny signing to announce.
One of our centers will have to be shipped out.
- Fakepartofme

Considering that Colborne is probably ready for a full-time NHL job I would agree.

As long as the 1st rounders are kept, and allowed time to develop I don't have much of a problem moving out other picks.

We've got a fair number of young guys in the system, and the team itself is still relatively young

hmm, words they used to say about kessel before carlyle came here, maybe carlyle can do the same for lecav
- matt1337

Kessel is younger and still learning.

Lecavalier is what he is. At 33 you won't see much change in his style of play.

Leafs Blueprint with projected salaries to restricted free agents

Forwards

JVR (4.25) Kadri (3.75) Kessel (5.4)

Lupul (5.25) Grabovski (5.5) Clarkson (5.25)

McClement (1.5) Bolland (3.375) Kulemin (2.8)

McLaren (0.7) Coborne(0.85) Orr (0.925)

Free agent pick to add depth/,Marlie (0.8)


Defensemen

Gunnarsson (1.75) Phaneuf (6.5)

Gardiner (1.2) Franson (4.0)

Fraser (0.9) Holzer (0.79)

Free agent pickup/Marlie?


Komsarek and Liles bought out - Brings back 7.5m in capspace


Bernier (2.25)

Reimer (1.8)


Armstrong,Tucker buyouts + retained salary = 2.5m


Capspace - 3.4m
- t_leafs21

Too much for Clarkson

Liles probably stays

Lecavalier is a point producer... Always has been. My concern with obtaining him is that he's never been the biggest back checker by any stretch. Might not do well under Carlyle.
- Dozzer

If he can pot 70+ points there may be some forgiveness there....

Too much for Clarkson

Liles probably stays
- AngryWhiteMale

Liles is alright but we may need that 3.875 for better use.

What do you expect to get Clarkson for? Won't be less than 4.5

What constitutes a #1 centre to you?

Lecavalier was over 0.8ppg this last season.

That's well within #1 centre production if you ask me
- Dozzer

perfect then we have our number 1 and 2 centres....

Kadri at .92ppg
Grabo at over .70 pts per game the 2 previous seasons when he was not in a checking role... no need to waste money on bernier

If he can pot 70+ points there may be some forgiveness there....
- lumlums

Oh don't get me wrong.. I'd love him on the leafs.. But if the leafs do sign him, I'm not going to expect anything more than point production really.

Kessel is younger and still learning.

Lecavalier is what he is. At 33 you won't see much change in his style of play.
- Dozzer

i'm sure if he wants another chance to win the cup he will change.

perfect then we have our number 1 and 2 centres....

Kadri at .92ppg
Grabo at over .70 pts per game the 2 previous seasons when he was not in a checking role... no need to waste money on bernier
- jribout

I think you meant lecavalier.

And no matter what, he's an upgrade on what we have. That's just obvious.

i'm sure if he wants another chance to win the cup he will change.
- matt1337

I won't hold my breath lol