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justahockeyguy2
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: DE
Joined: 06.05.2013

Jun 30 @ 4:42 PM ET
Should have gotten Ryan Pulock.. I really think he could flourish in Philly and Lavi's system. SMH!

BOBBY RYAN!?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 30 @ 4:42 PM ET
Yes when they could have moved down and selected him in the 20's
- ob18


You seem to know a fair amount these draft prospects. What grade would you give Holmgren for the first round pick?

A solid B?
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 30 @ 4:42 PM ET
Okay. I don't know enough to make a strong opinion one way or another.

Would of liked to see the Flyers add an offensive defenseman who can skate and move the puck. Hopefully this kid can do that down the road.

- stveshdy


I would like to know if Homer was offered any offers to drop down, and what the offers were?
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:42 PM ET
and the islanders get pulock egg on homer's face
- 2Real

Cant wait for Schenider to shutout the flyers for the next 10 years.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
Man Pulock looks like a stud.
- pharcyde


He has a great shot which means his highlights will look good. I was hoping the Flyers took him, but I'm willing to wait and see on this one.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
I guess we're going to find out how good of a mentor Pronger can be to a young d-man.
- ravishingone


If you believe what you read, he helped Luke Schenn some -- playing with Kimmo Timonen certainly helped more, but Schenn was monstrous even when playing with Oliver Lauridsen.

With Terry Murray in house, and if Pronger's truly active within the organization...Lauridsen showed signs of development, as a sixth-rounder. Marc-Andre Bourdon developed into an NHL-capable defenseman. Erik Gustafsson shows signs of development, as an undrafted free agent, as does Brandon Manning.

Why is it that so many are so certain that Samuel Morin won't develop? I might not have taken him at 11, but if he can skate well enough, I don't know that I wouldn't have, either.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
You should see the saber thread ripping Riso hahaha
- KINGKENZO


we're amongst professional talent scouts
mydoglicks
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: downingtown, PA
Joined: 06.25.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
dam, craig button knows
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
Yes when they could have moved down and selected him in the 20's
- ob18


Yeah...I hope they at least tried to do that.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
we're amongst professional talent scouts
- FlyerMike18

wilsonecho91
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: A dream to some...a nightmare to others, AK
Joined: 11.13.2007

Jun 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
Cant wait for Schenider to shutout the flyers for the next 10 years.
- Winning

2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
so we don't know a thing about these kids. complaining right now is kinda silly (unless they traded away their pick entirely or something like that). we have no idea what kind of player this kid will be, or what other orgs were offering to trade up, or even what other orgs were thinking about morin. can't we just wait and see before people get nuts?
- FlyerMike18

there were much better picks than him at that position and a division rival just took one
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 30 @ 4:43 PM ET
The 11th pick is not the only pick they have.
- MJL

My draft plan:
1st rounder: Best available prospect
2nd rounder: Best available defenseman
3rd rounder: Best available defenseman
4th rounder: Best available goaltender
5th rounder: Best available goaltender
6th rounder: Best available prospect
7th rounder: Best available prospect
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:44 PM ET
Morin sounds like a decent prospect, just surprised they took him at 11 with a consensus ranking well over 20.
- jstross



Encouraging signs are that he shot up the rankings and that Simon Nolet probably had a big hand in the selection.

No guarantee that he would have been there if they had traded down... doubt the Flyers were the only team in love with him.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:44 PM ET
is this serious? luongo doesn't want to stay in vancouver???
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 30 @ 4:44 PM ET
Man Pulock looks like a stud.
- pharcyde

was thinking the same thing. would love to add him to any prospect pool
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 30 @ 4:45 PM ET
w/ dmen, i would start evaluating their hockey IQ along w/ their basic skills and go from there. pulock might be a guy who haunts us for yrs, whizzing bombs by our goalies on the PP...or he could be a sieve on D who craps out....
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 30 @ 4:45 PM ET
there were much better picks than him at that position and a division rival just took one
- 2Real


my point is that you have no idea what you're talking about when you make that statement. have you EVER watched pulock or morin play a game???
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 30 @ 4:45 PM ET
is this serious? luongo doesn't want to stay in vancouver???
- FlyerMike18

That's awesome
Franked by their GM then franked by their only remaining starter.
pharcyde
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.18.2011

Jun 30 @ 4:46 PM ET
was thinking the same thing. would love to add him to any prospect pool
- stayinthefnnet

Reminds me of Subban with a little less speed.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:46 PM ET
Can't wait for the blog tommorow
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 30 @ 4:46 PM ET
With Pronger in the draft room who I'm sure has strong opinions on defensive prospects, I feel better about this pick.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 30 @ 4:46 PM ET
Man Pulock looks like a stud.
- pharcyde


I was thinking the same thing. Has a canon.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 30 @ 4:46 PM ET
If you believe what you read, he helped Luke Schenn some -- playing with Kimmo Timonen certainly helped more, but Schenn was monstrous even when playing with Oliver Lauridsen.

With Terry Murray in house, and if Pronger's truly active within the organization...Lauridsen showed signs of development, as a sixth-rounder. Marc-Andre Bourdon developed into an NHL-capable defenseman. Erik Gustafsson shows signs of development, as an undrafted free agent, as does Brandon Manning.

Why is it that so many are so certain that Samuel Morin won't develop? I might not have taken him at 11, but if he can skate well enough, I don't know that I wouldn't have, either.

- AllInForFlyers


Its not so much the fact that he wont develop into a solid shutdown guy.

Its the fact that you have a real need for actual talent on the back end. Most people would agree Morin is a reach, and with Pulock, Zadorov and Morrissey still on the board its an interesting choice.

Considering this organization's track record on drafting D, to reach like that, I have my doubts.


FlyerGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.18.2007

Jun 30 @ 4:46 PM ET
is this serious? luongo doesn't want to stay in vancouver???
- FlyerMike18

they've know that for a year ... still can't believe they think they can make it work.
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