Nurse is a safe pick with a lower ceiling. Ristolainen and Pulock have higher ceilings than Nurse, but Nurse is much lower-risk to end up being a top-4 guy.
- JAKEw1234

Actually, the converse is true. Ristolainen is seen as the safe pick. Nurse's potential to become a much better player as he matures and develops is why teams have him so high.

Nurse has basically dominated by his physical gifts thus far, the thought is, as he learns and develops in technique he will get better.

I'm here looking at homer. He just walked off the floor. They just told press to leave floor.
- youarewrong

What does holmer look like?

I'm here looking at homer. He just walked off the floor. They just told press to leave floor.
- youarewrong

Homer has to eat his lunch in the bathroom.

Holland wants a top 2/3 defender, but they're hard to find.
Coburn is about to be traded for Shea Weber !!!
- Winning

Still holding out hope, huh?

He (MJL) is playing a double standard game with you. Salaries and cap hits are pretty close now post CBA. He wants you to compare a post CBA signing to his examples which were before.
- phillydentist

Suter and Weber signed under the old CBA. regardless of which CBA it was signed under, the Pens got Letang for cheap. he could've easily chosen to play out his deal, and test Free Agency. In which he undoubtedly, could've commanded more.

Here is the breakdown.

Letang signed an 8 year deal for 58M.

The first 8 years of Suter's deal is for 80M

The first 8 years of Weber's deal, totals 92M

picture this is Homer with Coburn

fucale may be a great goalie someday, but this is not the draft to take him before #20 or so, from every thing i've heard/read.

I'm talking cap hits. You are correct. Salary is great but the "hit" is what's important for building your team.
- stveshdy

A player does not negotiate for a Cap hit. They negotiate for Salary. The Pens got Letang for a really good deal.

picture this is Homer with Coburn

- Winning

whenever possible, this is how it needs to happen

They just showed Nurse telling what he learned from uncle McNabb just now on NHLN.

All I can picture is Nurse with a stupid grin on his face after a mistake leading to a goal against.
- phillydentist

He said he talks to Don 2-3 times a week.....STAY AWAY HOMER

Actually, the converse is true. Ristolainen is seen as the safe pick. Nurse's potential to become a much better player as he matures and develops is why teams have him so high.

Nurse has basically dominated by his physical gifts thus far, the thought is, as he learns and develops in technique he will get better.
- Jsaquella

I think Ristolainen's ceiling is top-pairing shut-down dman. Or as some has said, "Finnish Pronger" I personally don't like the Nurse hype and truly believe he'll end up a top-4 guy at best. But only the future can tell.

They just showed Nurse telling what he learned from uncle McNabb just now on NHLN.

All I can picture is Nurse with a stupid grin on his face after a mistake leading to a goal against.
- phillydentist

I think it is a little overplayed the McNabb angle. McNabb is his uncle by marriage. I'm sure you'll get some stupid tweet from Donovan if Darnell is drafted by the Flyers, however.

yea, I'm playing a double standard. Suter and Weber signed under the old CBA. regardless of which CBA it was signed under, the Pens got Letang for cheap. he could've easily chosen to play out his deal, and test Free Agency. In which he undoubtedly, could've commanded more.

Here is the breakdown.

Letang signed an 8 year deal for 58M.

The first 8 years of Suter's deal is for 80M

The first 8 years of Weber's deal, totals 92M
- MJL

Pre CBA vs Post CBA.

You think those guys get those deals now? No way.

You always win your little arguments in your own mind because of these built in double standards.

fucale may be a great goalie someday, but this is not the draft to take him before #20 or so, from every thing i've heard/read.
- isaiah520

Let Jersey make that mistake if anybody

yea, I'm playing a double standard. Suter and Weber signed under the old CBA. regardless of which CBA it was signed under, the Pens got Letang for cheap. he could've easily chosen to play out his deal, and test Free Agency. In which he undoubtedly, could've commanded more.

Here is the breakdown.

Letang signed an 8 year deal for 58M.

The first 8 years of Suter's deal is for 80M

The first 8 years of Weber's deal, totals 92M
- MJL

I completely understand what your saying. I'm just talking from a cap hit point of view. That's what matters. Every team tries to get it as low as possible.

He said he talks to Don 2-3 times a week.....STAY AWAY HOMER
- nonpoint22

Have a barf bag handy if he ever makes a SCF.

picture this is Homer with Coburn

- Winning

Sold.

I think it is a little overplayed the McNabb angle. McNabb is his uncle by marriage. I'm sure you'll get some stupid tweet from Donovan if Darnell is drafted by the Flyers, however.
- ravishingone

Don is in the building....can you imagine that interview with him if Nurse goes to Flyers...when the question about playing in Philly with the fans comes up is gonna be awkward cause he hates us so much

Pre CBA vs Post CBA.

You think those guys get those deals now? No way.

You always win your little arguments in your own mind because of these built in double standards.
- phillydentist

Top Free Agents are still going to command top Dollar. The players who are going to see the salary crunch are the middle class of NHL players. This was a much talked about subject through the course of the lockout.

Letang could've chosen to test Free Agency after this Season, and been a top player. With the value of Free Agent defenseman of his ability, he could've gotten more money. Great deal for the Pens.

Looks like Lu has moved on from Vancouver and is playing goal for Italy today vs Urugauy

Top Free Agents are still going to command top Dollar. The players who are going to see the salary crunch are the middle class of NHL players. This was a much talked about subject through the course of the lockout.

Letang could've chosen to test Free Agency after this Season, and been a top player. With the value of Free Agent defenseman of his ability, he could've gotten more money.
- MJL

He chose to sign because it was a fair market deal or very close to it. If he thought he could make more, he would've tested the market and waited. Also, only Pitt is able to give him 8 years, one more than any other team. It was a fair deal not a steal.

From what I've read on the other boards, most think it was an overpayment but I disagree there. It was fair.

duplicate post.

trying to delete duplicate posts.

- stveshdy

Not gonna happen....stop torturing yourself bud