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JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 30 @ 1:51 PM ET
Hold up. So you think Coburn and 11 lands you pick #5?

Your also not the GM. So you don't know what they are looking for.

- stveshdy

If their asking for a top 4 dman and a 1st round pick then yes, Coburn and the 11 will land you #5. You think this is an underpayment but remember that they're trying to move down for immediate help and this is a buyers market. To them adding a top-4 man and still picking top 15 probably seems like a steal.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:51 PM ET
Option A trade xyz for the 5th pick
Option B lose 4 meaningless games, get the 5th pick

- KINGKENZO

some people were pissed when i mentioned just tank
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:51 PM ET
If the Flyers move up ahead of the Devils at 9th and draft a (frank)ing goalie Im going to cry
- Winning


Lots of rumors floating around. Take it with a grain of salt.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:51 PM ET
If their asking for a top 4 dman and a 1st round pick then yes, Coburn and the 11 will land you #5. You think this is an underpayment but remember that they're trying to move down for immediate help and this is a buyers market. To them adding a top-4 man and still picking top 15 probably seems like a steal.
- JAKEw1234

coburn will help a team? ok trade him
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:51 PM ET
9:36am et - Will VAN's Edler get "Jeff Carter-ed"? (Traded right before his NTC kicks in). I'd say there's a decent chance Edler gets "Carter-ed." - McKenzie
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:52 PM ET
If their asking for a top 4 dman and a 1st round pick then yes, Coburn and the 11 will land you #5. You think this is an underpayment but remember that they're trying to move down for immediate help and this is a buyers market. To them adding a top-4 man and still picking top 15 probably seems like a steal.
- JAKEw1234


There are other options other than adding Coburn.

Also, don't believe they make that trade Coburn & 11 for 5.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:54 PM ET
9:36am et - Will VAN's Edler get "Jeff Carter-ed"? (Traded right before his NTC kicks in). I'd say there's a decent chance Edler gets "Carter-ed." - McKenzie
- coffee junkie


Price will probably be high.
feelingkettle
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "No sir, I don't like it" Phil, PA
Joined: 11.13.2006

Jun 30 @ 1:54 PM ET
Price will probably be high.
- stveshdy

And wide?
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 30 @ 1:55 PM ET
There are other options other than adding Coburn.

Also, don't believe they make that trade Coburn & 11 for 5.

- stveshdy

You don't know if they're getting other offers at all, or if other offers are as good as our offer of #11 and Coburn.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 30 @ 1:56 PM ET
Price will probably be high.
- stveshdy

Hartnell and a pick maybe? He's what Vancouver needs.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:57 PM ET
$7.25/8yrs apparently. The cap better go way up next offseason because Pitt is screwed. They're paying 3 of their players 40% of their cap
- JAKEw1234


That deal is a flat out steal for the Pens to get Letang for that.
Bearintheforest
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.12.2013

Jun 30 @ 1:57 PM ET
If their asking for a top 4 dman and a 1st round pick then yes, Coburn and the 11 will land you #5. You think this is an underpayment but remember that they're trying to move down for immediate help and this is a buyers market. To them adding a top-4 man and still picking top 15 probably seems like a steal.
- JAKEw1234


How much would it then take to go from 5 into the top four? I am not entirely up to date, but rumor has it that gems are found in the top four. :D
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:57 PM ET
You don't know if they're getting other offers at all, or if other offers are as good as our offer of #11 and Coburn.
- JAKEw1234


I don't know. However, if Calgary who picks at #6 (who needs help on defense) supposedly wants Coburn, Read, and 11 for #6 why would Carolina accept a lower offer at #5?
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:58 PM ET
Evander Kane in a Flyers jersey would be so incredible.....never gonna happen just sayin
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 30 @ 1:58 PM ET
Hartnell and a pick maybe? He's what Vancouver needs.
- JAKEw1234


Others like Hartnell. I would make that trade but Vancouver needs to shed salary I believe.
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 30 @ 1:58 PM ET
How much would it then take to go from 5 into the top four? I am not entirely up to date, but rumor has it that gems are found in the top four. :D
- Bearintheforest

Idk what the point of reaching into the top 4 would do for us from #5. We're still picking one of Drouin, Barkov, or Nichushkin. I feel like the assets it would take to get there wouldn't be worth it.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 30 @ 1:59 PM ET
Kind of surprised. Signed on expecting to see that the Flyers made a trade.
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:59 PM ET
I don't know. However, if Edmonton who picks at #6 (who needs help on defense) supposedly wants Coburn, Read, and 11 for #6 why would Carolina accept a lower offer at #5?
- stveshdy


Edmonton has 7, Calgary has 6
Bearintheforest
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.12.2013

Jun 30 @ 1:59 PM ET
That deal is a flat out steal for the Pens to get Letang for that.
- MJL


If we were to judge the signing in a vacuum, sure it looks decent. But with the overall cap thing over in Pitty I have a feeling it is going to be tight?

Alot would depend on the NMC though - is it confirmed that it is a 15 team NMC?
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 30 @ 1:59 PM ET
Kind of surprised. Signed on expecting to see that the Flyers made a trade.
- MJL

Patience
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Jun 30 @ 2:00 PM ET
I don't know. However, if Edmonton who picks at #6 (who needs help on defense) supposedly wants Coburn, Read, and 11 for #6 why would Carolina accept a lower offer at #5?
- stveshdy


Edmonton is at 7, Calgary is at 6
phillydentist
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.20.2013

Jun 30 @ 2:00 PM ET
That deal is a flat out steal for the Pens to get Letang for that.
- MJL


Fair market value. Not a steal. You just got MJL'ed.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 30 @ 2:00 PM ET
That deal is a flat out steal for the Pens to get Letang for that.
- MJL


That's a lot of money. I like Letang a lot. The Pens have some serious money tied up with limited players.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 30 @ 2:00 PM ET
Kind of surprised. Signed on expecting to see that the Flyers made a trade.
- MJL


Wouldn;t be amazed if the NHL asked teams to hold off announcing anything until the draft starts
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 30 @ 2:00 PM ET
god damn it we should have had kane
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