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AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:17 AM ET
Raiders fans loved al Davis too. Nobody says he doesn't care or try his hardest
- Just5


But can we all acknowledge that he had every right to be at the draft yesterday?

I mean, seriously -- we get it. We all get it. No Stanley Cup since 1975.

Everybody gets it. Every single person gets it. WE ALL GET IT.

That doesn't mean the guy is the spawn of evil incarnate and doesn't give a crap about the team and what it means to be the owner.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:18 AM ET
When Davis got into his old age, his teams sucked. The Flyers have generally been a second tier contender, at worst, during Snider's 70's and into his 80's.
- Jsaquella



Oh--but those early 90s...

oh...those early 90s...

ughuhhgh
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:20 AM ET
Oh--but those early 90s...

oh...those early 90s...

ughuhhgh

- Moose_15


During those early 1990's, Ed Snider was not involved in running the team. Jay Snider was running the show during that era. It was when Ed Snider returned that the team returned to glory.
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:21 AM ET
But can we all acknowledge that he had every right to be at the draft yesterday?

I mean, seriously -- we get it. We all get it. No Stanley Cup since 1975.

Everybody gets it. Every single person gets it. WE ALL GET IT.

That doesn't mean the guy is the spawn of evil incarnate and doesn't give a crap about the team and what it means to be the owner.

- AllInForFlyers



He's at least Jerry jones. Right. RIGHT?
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:24 AM ET
He's at least Jerry jones. Right. RIGHT?
- Just5


The ole Double J is the GM of the the Cowboys, for all intents and purposes.

Ed is not nearly that involved.
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:26 AM ET
After reaching at # 11 and taking a project, and taking a 6th round talent in the third round, would have made more sense to package # 11 and # 72 for Schneider.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:26 AM ET
There is a reason he hired Homer right?

It is his team, but he isnt the one who should have a say on the guys they draft or trade for. Then he allows his fanaticism get in the way of business... and ends up like Al Davis.

- jak521


I agree to an extent. At the same time, If I owned the Flyers I'd be involved in every aspect of the team.

I'm ok with him being involved. In my mind he has every right to be there.

*My statements are of my own opinion only*
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:27 AM ET
During those early 1990's, Ed Snider was not involved in running the team. Jay Snider was running the show during that era. It was when Ed Snider returned that the team returned to glory.
- Jsaquella


Just looked up Jay Snider. Did not know that (granted I was just a pup then)
I just remember them Flyers stinking.

http://articles.philly.co...der-ed-snider-hockey-club
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:28 AM ET
He's at least Jerry jones. Right. RIGHT?
- Just5


If that's all what you need to fit the narrative you've built, then yes.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:29 AM ET
Just looked up Jay Snider. Did not know that (granted I was just a pup then)
I just remember them Flyers stinking.

http://articles.philly.co...der-ed-snider-hockey-club

- Moose_15


Fondly remember the "Jay Must Go" chant.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jul 1 @ 10:29 AM ET
After reaching at # 11 and taking a project, and taking a 6th round talent in the third round, would have made more sense to package # 11 and # 72 for Schneider.
- PLindbergh31


I dont mind the first two picks.. Morin wasnt as much of a reach as some might think. for the third round and on homer gets a F/
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:30 AM ET
After reaching at # 11 and taking a project, and taking a 6th round talent in the third round, would have made more sense to package # 11 and # 72 for Schneider.
- PLindbergh31


When I saw how cheap Vancouver let him go I was dumbfounded.

I still cannot believe that they think they're going with Mason as the #1 next year.
Flyersgod
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.07.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:31 AM ET
When I saw how cheap Vancouver let him go I was dumbfounded.

I still cannot believe that they think they're going with Mason as the #1 next year.

- Scoob


This is the same management that thought they could go with Leighton as #1 goalie.

johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:31 AM ET
When I saw how cheap Vancouver let him go I was dumbfounded.

I still cannot believe that they think they're going with Mason as the #1 next year.

- Scoob


Yup, I had the same exact reaction.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:32 AM ET
After reaching at # 11 and taking a project, and taking a 6th round talent in the third round, would have made more sense to package # 11 and # 72 for Schneider.
- PLindbergh31


How do you know Vancouver would of taken that deal. Most players taken in the first round are projects. How do you know who they took in the 3rd round is a 6th round talent? Have you seen the player actually play?
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:32 AM ET
When I saw how cheap Vancouver let him go I was dumbfounded.

I still cannot believe that they think they're going with Mason as the #1 next year.

- Scoob


We haven't even hit free agency yet, it's not etched in stone that Mason will be the guy next year.
Moose_15
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Rat Patrol, PA
Joined: 02.15.2013

Jul 1 @ 10:33 AM ET
This is the same management that thought they could go with Leighton as #1 goalie.
- Flyersgod



Leighton 1A, Boucher 1B, Emery 1LTIR
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jul 1 @ 10:34 AM ET
What I'm wondering about this morning is Coburn's time as a Flyer over?
After all the trade rumors can they bring him back next season or are they set on moving him?

I'm glad they didn't trade him for a couple of 2nd round picks and would welcome him back in his proper role.

I think they still want to clear cap space to pick up a free agent forward.
My nightmare right now is they trade him for less then value and use his dollars on Ryan Clough or something like that.

vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jul 1 @ 10:34 AM ET
Leighton 1A, Boucher 1B, Emery 1LTIR
- Moose_15

I would be more worried about the D...3 that are aged, concussed, oft injured
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:35 AM ET
Dave Isaac ‏@davegisaac 2m

Deadline for qualifying offers is tomorrow. Expect the #Flyers to send them to Lauridsen, Gustafsson and probably Manning.

I can't see any of the other RFAs getting a QO.
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:35 AM ET
What I'm wondering about this morning is Coburn's time as a Flyer over?
After all the trade rumors can they bring him back next season or are they set on moving him?

I'm glad they didn't trade him for a couple of 2nd round picks and would welcome him back in his proper role.

I think they still want to clear cap space to pick up a free agent forward.
My nightmare right now is they trade him for less then value and use his dollars on Ryan Clough or something like that.

- Marc D

turn your head and clough
Scoob
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: love is love
Joined: 06.29.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:35 AM ET
We haven't even hit free agency yet, it's not etched in stone that Mason will be the guy next year.
- Jsaquella


True, but the FA pool is crap. Nothing but old dudes, backups, and guys one post-to-post move away from injury.

Imho, of course.
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

Jul 1 @ 10:36 AM ET
What I'm wondering about this morning is Coburn's time as a Flyer over?
After all the trade rumors can they bring him back next season or are they set on moving him?

I'm glad they didn't trade him for a couple of 2nd round picks and would welcome him back in his proper role.

I think they still want to clear cap space to pick up a free agent forward.
My nightmare right now is they trade him for less then value and use his dollars on Ryan Clough or something like that.

- Marc D


For whatever reason, I totally buy the Vinny Lecavalier rumors.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jul 1 @ 10:38 AM ET
What I'm wondering about this morning is Coburn's time as a Flyer over?
After all the trade rumors can they bring him back next season or are they set on moving him?

I'm glad they didn't trade him for a couple of 2nd round picks and would welcome him back in his proper role.

I think they still want to clear cap space to pick up a free agent forward.
My nightmare right now is they trade him for less then value and use his dollars on Ryan Clough or something like that.

- Marc D


I'm happy that he wasn't traded for a couple of seconds, I was intrigued by the possibility of getting the 7th pick, but Coburn is a solid player. He has a fair market cap hit, he's a top 4 defenseman who can play a lot of minutes.

They have a few questions in terms of health and trading Coburn means relying more heavily on those guys.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jul 1 @ 10:39 AM ET
What I'm wondering about this morning is Coburn's time as a Flyer over?
After all the trade rumors can they bring him back next season or are they set on moving him?

I'm glad they didn't trade him for a couple of 2nd round picks and would welcome him back in his proper role.

I think they still want to clear cap space to pick up a free agent forward.
My nightmare right now is they trade him for less then value and use his dollars on Ryan Clough or something like that.

- Marc D

I think if they know vinny will sign then they will trade coburn and maybe try to dump mez as well
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