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DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 29 @ 3:37 PM ET
Jason Botchford ‏@botchford 4m
What we have here is an old fashioned cluster(frank). But, as usual, follow the money. As in, if the Canucks aren't willing to spend any.

LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:38 PM ET
alright fine, you got me. Gillis is a great GM. I wish I had Gillis as my GM.
- Sheppy99

In time you will.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:38 PM ET
I think Lu will be bought out next year if he is fading. I still think Schneider will be gone tomorrow.
- VANTEL



I just can't put that much faith into Lack/Eriksson, there's plenty of young goalies that put up very good numbers in the AHL that never pan out in the NHL. Check out a guy like Ben Scrivens for example. I think having such a good goaltending duo for all these years and has kind of made Canucks fans take having great goaltending for granted and underestimate it. There isn't a more valuable position or player in the game of hockey, a bad or mediocre goaltending performance can make a great team just look good and make a good team look really mediocre. Meanwhile a top 5/10 goalie makes a good team look great.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:39 PM ET
I would so something like Schneider to Florida for Huberdeau and Gudbranson+
- hankthetank

Not enough!
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:40 PM ET
Yeah but what happens when Kovy and Hossa and Doughty have to be bought out in 5 years. Gillis is not the only GM but he is getting the blame .
- VANTEL


Doughty is only 23 so his contract is fine. As for Hossa and Kovy, I agree they're contracts will look really bad in a few years.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:40 PM ET
Jason Botchford ‏@botchford 4m
What we have here is an old fashioned cluster(frank). But, as usual, follow the money. As in, if the Canucks aren't willing to spend any.

- DrChristianTroy


What's the worst case scenario? MG does not buyout Lu and can't trade either goalie for what he wants, or he trades Schneider for Sam Gagner and a second?
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:40 PM ET
I would so something like Schneider to Florida for Huberdeau and Gudbranson+
- hankthetank


I would do that too. Unfortunately I don't think the Panthers would have any interest.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:41 PM ET
Not enough!
- LeftCoaster



Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:41 PM ET
Jason Botchford ‏@botchford 4m
What we have here is an old fashioned cluster(frank). But, as usual, follow the money. As in, if the Canucks aren't willing to spend any.

- DrChristianTroy



(frank). So basically if Gillis doesn't want to waive Luongo(and he won't unless he talks to another team that says that they will claim him) then it looks like Schneider's gone. (frank) this team.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:42 PM ET
What's the worst case scenario? MG does not buyout Lu and can't trade either goalie for what he wants, or he trades Schneider for Sam Gagner and a second?
- 1970vintage



Worst case scenario is any scenario that involves keeping Luongo and trading Schneider.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:42 PM ET
I just can't put that much faith into Lack/Eriksson, there's plenty of young goalies that put up very good numbers in the AHL that never pan out in the NHL. Check out a guy like Ben Scrivens for example. I think having such a good goaltending duo for all these years and has kind of made Canucks fans take having great goaltending for granted and underestimate it. There isn't a more valuable position or player in the game of hockey, a bad or mediocre goaltending performance can make a great team just look good and make a good team look really mediocre. Meanwhile a top 5/10 goalie makes a good team look great.
- Nucker101


I'm pretty sure Alex Auld got 30 wins in a season behind the Westcoast Express
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:43 PM ET
I would do that too. Unfortunately I don't think the Panthers would have any interest.
- Michael_Stuart



Good, because we want Markstrom too!
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
What's the worst case scenario? MG does not buyout Lu and can't trade either goalie for what he wants, or he trades Schneider for Sam Gagner and a second?
- 1970vintage

Sincere question: any chance this whole "trade Schneider" stuff stems from the owner not wanting to spend the $ to buy out Lu?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
I'm pretty sure Alex Auld got 30 wins in a season behind the Westcoast Express
- 1970vintage



And I'm pretty sure that mediocre/terrible goaltending (frank)ed that team over for years in the playoffs. Give that team a Luongo(of a few years ago) or Schneider and they would have had a very good shot at a cup.
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Jun 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
Teams that have won the cup recently have not had that stud overpriced goalie every year. Crawford Halak Howard are three names in the last decade that have done it. I would not be surprised if Eddie Lack in 4 years or so is a cup winner.
- VANTEL


What Cup has Halak won again?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:44 PM ET
Sincere question: any chance this whole "trade Schneider" stuff stems from the owner not wanting to spend the $ to buy out Lu?
- Atomic Wedgie



I believe it is based on Botchford's tweet.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:45 PM ET
What Cup has Halak won again?
- djamon



Maybe he meant Fleury?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:46 PM ET
Sincere question: any chance this whole "trade Schneider" stuff stems from the owner not wanting to spend the $ to buy out Lu?
- Atomic Wedgie


absolutely.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Jun 29 @ 3:46 PM ET
(frank). So basically if Gillis doesn't want to waive Luongo(and he won't unless he talks to another team that says that they will claim him) then it looks like Schneider's gone. (frank) this team.
- Nucker101

Why wouldn't Gillis put him on waivers?

If he clears, it only opens the door to buyout. It doesn't close any doors.
MartiniMan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Santa Fe, NM
Joined: 10.01.2006

Jun 29 @ 3:46 PM ET
I would so something like Schneider to Florida for Huberdeau and Gudbranson+
- hankthetank

Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:46 PM ET
Good, because we want Markstrom too!
- Nucker101


Throw in Ballard and you could probably get the 2nd overall pick too.

To Vancouver:
Huberdeau
Gudbranson
Markstrom
2nd Overall

To Florida:
Schneider
Ballard

Florida gets a #1 goaltender and a top-4 D-man, while the Canucks deal with some of Florida's spare parts. It's a win-win scenario!

What were we saying about non-delusional fans, Nucker?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:48 PM ET
Why wouldn't Gillis put him on waivers?

If he clears, it only opens the door to buyout. It doesn't close any doors.

- Atomic Wedgie


Well it sounds like Aquilini doesn't want to pay up to buy him out. So Gillis would only waive him if he knew that he would get claimed otherwise if he clears then he has to keep him and trade Schneider and the media would be all over the "he went from being waived to your starting goalie!"
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Jun 29 @ 3:48 PM ET
In time you will.
- LeftCoaster


Anaheim took the Canuck stink off Burke and Nonis.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:48 PM ET
I wonder if Justin Pogge is available.
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:49 PM ET
I just want to say Ian, the trade proposal in your blog is worse than a Garth or Cloutier proposal.

Everyone is now dumber from reading your blog. I award you no points and may god have mercy on your soul.
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