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ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:10 PM ET
This blog made me lol. Good joke Ian!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:10 PM ET
You really think Gillis is much better?

Everybody with a brain knew last year the trade market for luongo was poop. The only person who didn't know this was canuck fans and Gillis.

So equating Gillis's hockey knowledge to the same level of fans is not out of line.

- Sheppy99



What did Canucks get for in the Lu trade? I missed that.
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:11 PM ET
What did Canucks get for in the Lu trade? I missed that.
- VANTEL

Nothing, that actually was my point.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:12 PM ET
This blog made me lol. Good joke Ian!
- ystoil


It is actually the Media (Dreger ) that is causing this sh!tas usual. He is making up the rumours. I just heard him on the radio. Van and Edm will not be trading. Schneider may be going somewhere but not to a division rival.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:13 PM ET
Nothing, that actually was my point.
- Sheppy99


So we still have a very good goalie. Whats the fiasco about then ?
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:13 PM ET
Can't disagree with this. Gillis' patience(which is really his stuborness) (frank)ed him over and he knows it.
- Nucker101


Yup, Schneider should never have gotten his $4m deal unless Luongo was already on the move.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:13 PM ET
You really think Gillis is much better?

Everybody with a brain knew last year the trade market for luongo was poop. The only person who didn't know this was canuck fans and Gillis.

So equating Gillis's hockey knowledge to the same level of fans is not out of line.

- Sheppy99



I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's a little smarter than most fans. Again, I think everyone(even non-delusional Canucks fans) will agree that Gillis overplayed his hand on this one and is now paying for it.


However, not being able to trade him and being forced to waive or buying him out could be a blessing in disguise as that way the Canucks won't get (frank)ed over with cap penalties down the road.
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:14 PM ET
It is actually the Media (Dreger ) that is causing this sh!tas usual. He is making up the rumours. I just heard him on the radio. Van and Edm will not be trading. Schneider may be going somewhere but not to a division rival.
- VANTEL


How is Dreger causing poop? He's stating the obvious. If the canucks want a decent prospect and draft pick for a goalie, they should probably try trading the one with value.

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:14 PM ET
Yup, Schneider should never have gotten his $4m deal unless Luongo was already on the move.
- 1970vintage


Didn't help Lu's value when he said he only wants to go to Fla
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:15 PM ET
How is Dreger causing poop? He's stating the obvious. If the canucks want a decent prospect and draft pick for a goalie, they should probably try trading the one with value.
- Sheppy99


Gillis really does laugh at when Dreger makes reports about Canucks. He is as credible as Glenn Healy.
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:16 PM ET
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's a little smarter than most fans. Again, I think everyone(even non-delusional Canucks fans) will agree that Gillis overplayed his hand on this one and is now paying for it.


However, not being able to trade him and being forced to waive or buying him out could be a blessing in disguise as that way the Canucks won't get (frank)ed over with cap penalties down the road.

- Nucker101


Well, not everyone. Yesterday the discussion was that Pietrangelo for Luongo is the 7th best offer on the table.

"Darren Millard even said he heard that peitreangelo may be in play if Lou should be made available for St. Louis to steal from us, however there are currently believed to be 5 or 6 better offers."
- I-own_da-Northwest
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:17 PM ET
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's a little smarter than most fans. Again, I think everyone(even non-delusional Canucks fans) will agree that Gillis overplayed his hand on this one and is now paying for it.


However, not being able to trade him and being forced to waive or buying him out could be a blessing in disguise as that way the Canucks won't get (frank)ed over with cap penalties down the road.

- Nucker101


Would you pay 24 Mil to a servicable player to tell him to take a hike?
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:17 PM ET
Well, not everyone. Yesterday the discussion was that Pietrangelo for Luongo is the 7th best offer on the table.

"Darren Millard even said he heard that peitreangelo may be in play if Lou should be made available for St. Louis to steal from us, however there are currently believed to be 5 or 6 better offers."
- I-own_da-Northwest

- Michael_Stuart



"Even non-delusional Canucks fans"
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:17 PM ET
Gillis really does laugh at when Dreger makes reports about Canucks. He is as credible as Glenn Healy.
- VANTEL

Gillis laughing at anyone but himself is kind of funny to me..... considering he's the 2nd worst GM in hockey...... (Feaster owning the #1 spot)
Michael Stuart
Ottawa Senators
Location: "Caresi > Corsi"
Joined: 10.24.2011

Jun 29 @ 3:18 PM ET
"Even non-delusional Canucks fans"
- Nucker101


Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:19 PM ET
Would you pay 24 Mil to a servicable player to tell him to take a hike?
- VANTEL



If it meant that my franchise gets to keep a younger, better, cheaper player at the same position and I get relieved of any future cap penalties...yes it's a no-brainer to me.
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:19 PM ET
"Even non-delusional Canucks fans"
- Nucker101

You're actually not that bad for a canuck fan. You're probably the most realistic one I've ever seen.

When you start acting like the rest, I know you're really just trying to stir up poop
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 29 @ 3:19 PM ET
He had that injury since junior and to be honest, I'd rather have the shoulders of a 15 year old than the vaginas of a pair of 15 year old twin Swedes.
- Horseguts



Working on that next ban already?? Tempting Micah....
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 29 @ 3:20 PM ET
You really think Gillis is much better?

Everybody with a brain knew last year the trade market for luongo was poop. The only person who didn't know this was canuck fans and Gillis.

So equating Gillis's hockey knowledge to the same level of fans is not out of line.

- Sheppy99


What great things has Nonis done with the Leafs? He is Timothy Leiweke's byatch!
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:20 PM ET
What great things has Nonis done with the Leafs? He is Timothy Leiweke's byatch!
- VanHockeyGuy

Not sign a player to a 20 year deal........ I liked that part so far.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:20 PM ET
Gillis laughing at anyone but himself is kind of funny to me..... considering he's the 2nd worst GM in hockey...... (Feaster owning the #1 spot)
- Sheppy99


And yet the team still sells out and make profits every year and competes for top spot overall in the regular season as compared to a team that makes the playoffs for the first time in nine years.

I think your Canuck hatred is showing.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:21 PM ET
Didn't help Lu's value when he said he only wants to go to Fla
- VANTEL


Nope, Gillis should have moved Lu immediately after the playoff loss to the Kings when Lu said he wasn't sure if he'd be back next year. To the Panthers for whatever they were willing to give, a bad contract (that expired in a year or two) and a second round pick and a career AHL'er would have been great. Also, I doubt the NHL could apply the cap recapture penalty to the Canucks had they traded him prior to the new rule being implemented.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 29 @ 3:23 PM ET
If it meant that my franchise gets to keep a younger, better, cheaper player at the same position and I get relieved of any future cap penalties...yes it's a no-brainer to me.
- Nucker101


Teams that have won the cup recently have not had that stud overpriced goalie every year. Crawford Halak Howard are three names in the last decade that have done it. I would not be surprised if Eddie Lack in 4 years or so is a cup winner.
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jun 29 @ 3:23 PM ET
And yet the team still sells out and make profits every year and competes for top spot overall in the regular season as compared to a team that makes the playoffs for the first time in nine years.

I think your Canuck hatred is showing.

- VANTEL


All things that were put into place before Gillis got there. You would of had a cup by now with a better GM.

I'm not comparing anything to the leafs. We had a terrible GM that set us back decades. I know what a bad GM can do to a team. This circus that has gone on in vancouver has gone on long enough. This drama is only holding your team back and it should make you question any decisions your GM is faced with other than this debacle.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 29 @ 3:24 PM ET
Nope, Gillis should have moved Lu immediately after the playoff loss to the Kings when Lu said he wasn't sure if he'd be back next year. To the Panthers for whatever they were willing to give, a bad contract (that expired in a year or two) and a second round pick and a career AHL'er would have been great. Also, I doubt the NHL could apply the cap recapture penalty to the Canucks had they traded him prior to the new rule being implemented.
- 1970vintage


That's been confirmed by Bob McKenzie.
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