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- MaximumBone

Found a new location
- MaximumBone

Damnit! I was just thinking of doing the same.

Did you watch Hall in the Memorial Cup? Back to back MVP. As a 17 and 18 year old playing against 20 yo. And, being American I'm guessing (no problem, just stating), you may not know of Eberle's heroics in what we Canadians call the biggest tournament outside the NHL, the WJHC. They are known as two of the clutchest performers in Canadian hockey. Nuge was also dynamite in the WHL playoffs and WJHC, when he captained and carried the team to the medal round pretty much by himself. No one else put up points. Don't care about NHL clutch, once a clutch player, always a clutch player. Look at Andrew Shaw. What has Schneider done? Has he even been in a pressure situation? Don't recall him backstopping BC to any national titles, despite being a powerhouse and holding most their regular season records. They did win the year he left it looks like though! Donnie...you are out of your element.

Honestly, that's the biggest difference in nationalities. Canadian hockey players are pressure tested from the time they are 15 or younger. Americans and Euros don't have that upbringing and rarely thrive when the intensity is raised and stakes are high. Like I said...I saw his eyes in the playoffs. Fear. Simple.
- Gildenlow

Ummm....Patrick Kane? Buffalo, New York, United States. What have the Oilers done other than collect first overall picks and set a record by doing that? Now your complaining about picking 7th!

I like this guy...
- Gildenlow

I love this guy^

Did you watch Hall in the Memorial Cup? Back to back MVP. As a 17 and 18 year old playing against 20 yo. And, being American I'm guessing (no problem, just stating), you may not know of Eberle's heroics in what we Canadians call the biggest tournament outside the NHL, the WJHC. They are known as two of the clutchest performers in Canadian hockey. Nuge was also dynamite in the WHL playoffs and WJHC, when he captained and carried the team to the medal round pretty much by himself. No one else put up points. Don't care about NHL clutch, once a clutch player, always a clutch player. Look at Andrew Shaw. What has Schneider done? Has he even been in a pressure situation? Don't recall him backstopping BC to any national titles, despite being a powerhouse and holding most their regular season records. They did win the year he left it looks like though! Donnie...you are out of your element.

Honestly, that's the biggest difference in nationalities. Canadian hockey players are pressure tested from the time they are 15 or younger. Americans and Euros don't have that upbringing and rarely thrive when the intensity is raised and stakes are high. Like I said...I saw his eyes in the playoffs. Fear. Simple.
- Gildenlow

Your attempt to belittle my intelligence was fun to read. Yes, I'm aware of what Hall did with the Spitfires. Yes, I'm aware of Eberle's late game heroics in the WJHC. Yes, I'm aware of Nuge's track record with the Rebels. What does that mean? Benoit Pouliot was a fourth overall pick because of what he did in Junior too. I'm not saying that Hall, Eberle or Nugent-Hopkins are Pouliot; they're not.

They're all good players, and they project to be stars for a long time. Still, you can't tell me that these guys have proven anything at the NHL level. To suggest they have is erroneous. The Oilers haven't made the playoffs. Winning in junior and winning at the NHL level are two VERY different things. As of right now, your star core of young players hasn't produced at the NHL level. The scrutiny and pressure those guys are getting in Edmonton is far superior to anything they dealt with in junior.

A good Swedish hockey player can win just as a good Canadian hockey player can win. You want pressure tested? The last three Conn Smythe winners are American. But hey, you looked into Schneider's American eyes and saw the fear. Americans clearly fail to deal with the pressure. There's nothing worse than stereotyping players by nationality. I'm surprised you haven't been hired as a pro scout yet.

This is actually a legit argument.




"Good ole' Canadian boys I tell ya!"

"Fear in his American eyes"


WTF.
- Nucker101

Here it is one more time...don't have to agree. Some of us have experienced it.

Honestly, that's the biggest difference in nationalities. Canadian hockey players are pressure tested from the time they are 15 or younger. Americans and Euros don't have that upbringing and rarely thrive when the intensity is raised and stakes are high. Like I said...I saw his eyes in the playoffs. Fear. Simple.

Did you watch Hall in the Memorial Cup? Back to back MVP. As a 17 and 18 year old playing against 20 yo. And, being American I'm guessing (no problem, just stating), you may not know of Eberle's heroics in what we Canadians call the biggest tournament outside the NHL, the WJHC. They are known as two of the clutchest performers in Canadian hockey. Nuge was also dynamite in the WHL playoffs and WJHC, when he captained and carried the team to the medal round pretty much by himself. No one else put up points. Don't care about NHL clutch, once a clutch player, always a clutch player. Look at Andrew Shaw. What has Schneider done? Has he even been in a pressure situation? Don't recall him backstopping BC to any national titles, despite being a powerhouse and holding most their regular season records. They did win the year he left it looks like though! Donnie...you are out of your element.

Honestly, that's the biggest difference in nationalities. Canadian hockey players are pressure tested from the time they are 15 or younger. Americans and Euros don't have that upbringing and rarely thrive when the intensity is raised and stakes are high. Like I said...I saw his eyes in the playoffs. Fear. Simple.
- Gildenlow

I saw Lupul's eyes in the playoffs.

Gorgeous.

I saw Lupul's eyes in the playoffs.

Gorgeous.
- Atomic Wedgie

Your attempt to belittle my intelligence was fun to read. Yes, I'm aware of what Hall did with the Spitfires. Yes, I'm aware of Eberle's late game heroics in the WJHC. Yes, I'm aware of Nuge's track record with the Rebels. What does that mean? Benoit Pouliot was a fourth overall pick because of what he did in Junior too. I'm not saying that Hall, Eberle or Nugent-Hopkins are Pouliot; they're not.

They're all good players, and they project to be stars for a long time. Still, you can't tell me that these guys have proven anything at the NHL level. To suggest they have is erroneous. The Oilers haven't made the playoffs. Winning in junior and winning at the NHL level are two VERY different things. As of right now, your star core of young players hasn't produced at the NHL level. The scrutiny and pressure those guys are getting in Edmonton is far superior to anything they dealt with in junior.

A good Swedish hockey player can win just as a good Canadian hockey player can win. You want pressure tested? The last three Conn Smythe winners are American. But hey, you looked into Schneider's American eyes and saw that the fear. Americans clearly fail to deal with the pressure. There's nothing worse than stereotyping players by nationality. I'm surprised you haven't been hired as a pro scout yet.
- Michael_Stuart

I saw Lupul's eyes in the playoffs.

Gorgeous.
- Atomic Wedgie

Have you seen Taylor Pyatt's eyes?

- A_SteamingLombardi

Agreed.

Your attempt to belittle my intelligence was fun to read. Yes, I'm aware of what Hall did with the Spitfires. Yes, I'm aware of Eberle's late game heroics in the WJHC. Yes, I'm aware of Nuge's track record with the Rebels. What does that mean? Benoit Pouliot was a fourth overall pick because of what he did in Junior too. I'm not saying that Hall, Eberle or Nugent-Hopkins are Pouliot; they're not.

They're all good players, and they project to be stars for a long time. Still, you can't tell me that these guys have proven anything at the NHL level. To suggest they have is erroneous. The Oilers haven't made the playoffs. Winning in junior and winning at the NHL level are two VERY different things. As of right now, your star core of young players hasn't produced at the NHL level. The scrutiny and pressure those guys are getting in Edmonton is far superior to anything they dealt with in junior.

A good Swedish hockey player can win just as a good Canadian hockey player can win. You want pressure tested? The last three Conn Smythe winners are American. But hey, you looked into Schneider's American eyes and saw that the fear. Americans clearly fail to deal with the pressure. There's nothing worse than stereotyping players by nationality. I'm surprised you haven't been hired as a pro scout yet.
- Michael_Stuart

There are some great clutch Americans. There are some great clutch Swedes. I'm just saying they weren't as common because of the upbringing Canadians have. Obviously that is beginning to shift with American hockey becoming much more competitive from a younger age. And it's showing.

I'll still disagree about proving it in the NHL, Hall and Ebs have both already finished top 10 in scoring in their first 3 years. That's rare last time I checked. Andrew Shaw was one of the clutchest junior performers recently. Same with Marchand. What do people think of them in their playoffs? Once clutch, always cluth. Seriously. Same guys score the big goals over and over, you mentioned Kane already. I'm not worried about Hall and Ebs when the going gets tough. Schneider failed his first test.

I will never belittle or personally attack anyone, not my style and it's ignorant. I'm just a huge hockey fan with an opinion. I also shouldn't underestimate anyone's hockey watching on here, won't assume anything about Americans watching the WHJC or CHL anymore.

Here it is one more time...don't have to agree. Some of us have experienced it.

Honestly, that's the biggest difference in nationalities. Canadian hockey players are pressure tested from the time they are 15 or younger. Americans and Euros don't have that upbringing and rarely thrive when the intensity is raised and stakes are high. Like I said...I saw his eyes in the playoffs. Fear. Simple.
- Gildenlow

Okay then...

I kinda think Hall having more points than every other player in the West besides Kane is kinda proving something.

Okay then...
- Nucker101

That explains why RNH has the shoulders of a 15 year old.

I kinda think Hall having more points than every other player in the West besides Kane is kinda proving something.
- Horseguts

Proves about as much as Schneider having the 1st or 2nd best Save% in the west 3 years running. Actually not really... Schneider's done it for 3 years.

That explains why RNH has the shoulders of a 15 year old.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Yeah but.......His eyes show that he's actually got the shoulders of Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson and shows no fear!

There are some great clutch Americans. There are some great clutch Swedes. I'm just saying they weren't as common because of the upbringing Canadians have. Obviously that is beginning to shift with American hockey becoming much more competitive from a younger age. And it's showing.

I'll still disagree about proving it in the NHL, Hall and Ebs have both already finished top 10 in scoring in their first 3 years. That's rare last time I checked. Andrew Shaw was one of the clutchest junior performers recently. Same with Marchand. What do people think of them in their playoffs? Once clutch, always cluth. Seriously. Same guys score the big goals over and over, you mentioned Kane already. I'm not worried about Hall and Ebs when the going gets tough. Schneider failed his first test.

I will never belittle or personally attack anyone, not my style and it's ignorant. I'm just a huge hockey fan with an opinion. I also shouldn't underestimate anyone's hockey watching on here, won't assume anything about Americans watching the WHJC or CHL anymore.
- Gildenlow

Hall and Eberle have each had a great season (or two depending on your definition of great). It hasn't translated to team performance. These guys haven't proven that they can will the Oilers into the playoffs. At some point your young core needs to do that. When it does, I'll be right on board with you. Still, it's not right to suggest that these guys have proven anything in this league.

The going gets tough during every NHL season, and so far your boys haven't lifted the Oilers above and beyond mediocrity.

My birth certificate has Canada written in big letters right on the front. I still manage to catch some CHL action from time to time. I'm just not going to stereotype any nation's players.

That explains why RNH has the shoulders of a 15 year old.
- A_SteamingLombardi

He had that injury since junior and to be honest, I'd rather have the shoulders of a 15 year old than the vaginas of a pair of 15 year old twin Swedes.

Proves about as much as Schneider having the 1st or 2nd best Save% in the west 3 years running. Actually not really... Schneider's done it for 3 years.
- DrChristianTroy

How many playoffs series has he won now? Prob lost count by now

Here it is one more time...don't have to agree. Some of us have experienced it.

Honestly, that's the biggest difference in nationalities. Canadian hockey players are pressure tested from the time they are 15 or younger. Americans and Euros don't have that upbringing and rarely thrive when the intensity is raised and stakes are high. Like I said...I saw his eyes in the playoffs. Fear. Simple.
- Gildenlow

Dude....Just know when to quit and move on....

Proves about as much as Schneider having the 1st or 2nd best Save% in the west 3 years running. Actually not really... Schneider's done it for 3 years.
- DrChristianTroy

In 80 starts during that span as well, but apparently he's unproven despite stellar numbers in the AHL and College as well. The guy's been pretty dominant at every level that he's played at.

Here it is one more time...don't have to agree. Some of us have experienced it.

Honestly, that's the biggest difference in nationalities. Canadian hockey players are pressure tested from the time they are 15 or younger. Americans and Euros don't have that upbringing and rarely thrive when the intensity is raised and stakes are high. Like I said...I saw his eyes in the playoffs. Fear. Simple.
- Gildenlow

You're so full of BS its spouting out your ears.

So basically the asking price for Schneider is about the same as it was for Luongo when he first went up on the block.......... that sounds about right.
- Sheppy99

It is reported Edmonton are very much in the mix. It would have to be a huge huge return or you don't do it. Why would the Canucks want to make a division rival a playoffs contender? .What happens if you trade and they make the playoffs and you don't .

As stupid as this sounds I only trade Schneider to the Oilers for Yak and a first for Schneider Ballard and a first . Otherwise what's the next offer .

In 80 starts during that span as well, but apparently he's unproven despite stellar numbers in the AHL and College as well. The guy's been pretty dominant at every level that he's played at.
- Nucker101

Getting ready to change your location?