I don't know. I view the premium for defense as very, very high. Maybe that's because TB doesn't have much defense.
- Michael_Stuart

edler's a funny player.
dominant top pairing guy one night, bonehead decision making 3rd pairing the next.

Alright, Edler and 24 for 3?
- Bieksa#3

keep 24!!

edler's a funny player.
dominant top pairing guy one night, bonehead decision making 3rd pairing the next.
- hugefemale dog77

With a guy who can actually coach he'll be a stud!!!

edler's a funny player.
dominant top pairing guy one night, bonehead decision making 3rd pairing the next.
- hugefemale dog77

Dion with half the mistakes

Alright, Edler and 24 for 3?
- Bieksa#3

Very intriguing for me. Based on TB's situation, I doubt Yzerman would do it though. He might, but I think he's pretty content with sticking at three. As much as everyone says the team needs defense, it also needs a new 2C and a winger for Stamkos. Keeping three should address one of those concerns.

With a guy who can actually coach he'll be a stud!!!
- LeftCoaster

So you like Lavioolette that much a?

edler's a funny player.
dominant top pairing guy one night, bonehead decision making 3rd pairing the next.
- hugefemale dog77

I've got a feeling that Tortorella might change that, if Edler sticks around in Vancouver.

I've got a feeling that Tortorella might change that, if Edler sticks around in Vancouver.
- Michael_Stuart

Edler either does one of the 3

1) gets traded
2)completely falls apart Ala Phanuef in Calgary
3)becomes a top 5 d man in the league

So you like Lavioolette that much a?
- Bieksa#3

I was thinking Dineen?

NYI, Flyers, Tampa or Florida could really use him and provide a very good return. I don't care where he goes, but I do care about the return!!!

I was thinking Dineen?

NYI, Flyers, Tampa or Florida could really use him and provide a very good return. I don't care where he goes, but I do care about the return!!!
- LeftCoaster

I say no to Florida but ducks could use him.

Edler either does one of the 3

1) gets traded
2)completely falls apart Ala Phanuef in Calgary
3)becomes a top 5 d man in the league
- Bieksa#3

He's got all the tools, which makes it so hard to watch him on nights when he's struggling. You know the potential for greatness is there. A coach like Torts might bring it out on a more consistent basis.

I see a ton of value in Edler (from a trade perspective). This probably isn't something you hear much in here, but I think you're selling his value short. I look at the Gonchar comparable and the Streit comparable as perfect examples. I'd take an inconsistent Edler over a fully function Gonchar seven days a week. Get Edler some consistency and he's right there with the best.

He's got all the tools, which makes it so hard to watch him on nights when he's struggling. You know the potential for greatness is there. A coach like Torts might bring it out on a more consistent basis.

I see a ton of value in Edler (from a trade perspective). This probably isn't something you hear much in here, but I think you're selling his value short. I look at the Gonchar comparable and the Streit comparable as perfect examples. I'd take an inconsistent Edler over a fully function Gonchar seven days a week. Get Edler some consistency and he's right there with the best.
- Michael_Stuart

I agree. I would want one of B Schenn or Coutourier as part of the return from Philly

Fowler and Palmeiri + from disney

Would the lanche being interested in a duchese edler swap

Would the lanche being interested in a duchese edler swap
- Bieksa#3

Highly doubt it.

I agree. I would want one of B Schenn or Coutourier as part of the return from Philly

Fowler and Palmeiri + from disney
- Bieksa#3

I keep coming back to either 5th overall (CAR) or 11th overall (PHI). At five you're bound to get a great forward, and at eleven you're likely to get a chance at Zadorov. I think that Z would be a fantastic addition to the Canucks's blue line.

I keep coming back to either 5th overall (CAR) or 11th overall (PHI). At five you're bound to get a great forward, and at eleven you're likely to get a chance at Zadorov. I think that Z would be a fantastic addition to the Canucks's blue line.
- Michael_Stuart

What else we getting with 11?

Edler and 24 for Coutourier and 11?

What else we getting with 11?

Edler and 24 for Coutourier and 11?
- Bieksa#3

I suggested a complex two-deal proposal a couple pages back. It's an absolute pipe dream though.

I keep coming back to either 5th overall (CAR) or 11th overall (PHI). At five you're bound to get a great forward, and at eleven you're likely to get a chance at Zadorov. I think that Z would be a fantastic addition to the Canucks's blue line.
- Michael_Stuart

What do you think the odds are that Drouin's still there @ 5?

I suggested a complex two-deal proposal a couple pages back. It's an absolute pipe dream though.
- Michael_Stuart

Yeah, I seen it

What do you think the odds are that Drouin's still there @ 5?
- DrChristianTroy

Its 50/50. I say its him or the Russian that are still there

What do you think the odds are that Drouin's still there @ 5?
- DrChristianTroy

For that to happen it would need to go MacKinnon, Jones, Nichushkin, Barkov, Drouin. I can't see that happening. Though, if there was ever a team to take a flyer on Nichushkin at three it's certainly the Lightning. I know that Al Murray, our Director of Amateur scouting, likes him. Still, I know the team also likes Drouin. I just can't seen Drouin getting past Tampa and then Nashville too.

I'm leaning towards believing that the top-4 is pretty much set. It's just a matter of who goes where in that group.

For that to happen it would need to go MacKinnon, Jones, Nichushkin, Barkov, Drouin. I can't see that happening. Though, if there was ever a team to take a flyer on Nichushkin at three it's certainly the Lightning. I know that Al Murray, our Director of Amateur scouting, likes him. Still, I know the team also likes Drouin. I just can't seen Drouin getting past Tampa and then Nashville too.

I'm leaning towards believing that the top-4 is pretty much set. It's just a matter of who goes where in that group.
- Michael_Stuart

After Radulov no chance of Nichushkin to nash

So the rumour is out there, the oilers offered the 7 pick and Klefbon for Schneider.

I'm not sure that is a whole lot different than what I said it would take.

So do you do it?

After Radulov no chance of Nichushkin to nash
- Bieksa#3

Agreed. So for Drouin to drop to five, I think that Nichushkin has to go to Tampa.

So the rumour is out there, the oilers offered the 7 pick and Klefbon for Schneider.

I'm not sure that is a whole lot different than what I said it would take.

So do you do it?
- IanEsplen

Hell no. You're giving Edmonton (a division rival) a major piece to their puzzle without taking any pieces out of it... and that's not even considering the other 100 reasons it's stupid as (frank) move.