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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 7:31 PM ET
"Such a deal would likely look something like Brayden Schenn, Nick Cousins and the Flyers 2nd round pick" according to Ek.
- JAKEw1234


I'd have to do that for sure. I think it will be higher then that.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 7:31 PM ET
That wasn't random. Vinny dumped Kimmo (?) then luke started yappin. Also, hockey players are probably the best in pro sports at "leaving it on the ice"
- phatpat44

Yea I think the cheap shot he gave talbot would be more to talk about
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 29 @ 7:32 PM ET
Working on a new location yet?
- BulliesPhan87


Hard at work
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 29 @ 7:33 PM ET
Yeah and a few hours later he said they were no longer in on Letang
- Jsaquella


You know, the thing about Kris Letang is this: He effectively has a modified no-trade clause.

With him having one year left on his contract, yet looking for (likely) $7.5 per, then there's only so many places he can go to begin with.

You throw in what the other team has to throw in, there's a few less teams.

But the kicker is this: Kris Letang doesn't have to sign anywhere he doesn't want to play. That's what effed up Ray Shero last year -- Jordan Staal didn't have to extend with anyone he didn't want to.

Kris Letang isn't driving the bus on this, but it's clear he's riding in the front seat with the GPS in his hand.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 7:33 PM ET
I feel the dumb part of the fanbase complained about the Flyers down season and said that Homer needs to go. Then at the same time, they complain about the team being too impatient. You can only have it one way or the other.
- PhillySportsGuy

you must be new here

we want to get stamkos/bob ryan/seth jones
and keep all our young players

win now, blow it up, everything

or else homer has failed
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Jun 29 @ 7:33 PM ET
Even with all the speculation and rumors floating around, I thought there would be more things actually happening today. I thought there were going to be quite a few mix ups. It might still happen, but its kind of been crickets.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 29 @ 7:33 PM ET
you must be new here

we want to get stamkos/bob ryan/seth jones
and keep all our young players

win now, blow it up, everything

or else homer has failed

- Marc D

Ryan will sign with the Flyers when he hits UFA status, no need to give up assets for him
phatpat44
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NS
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 7:34 PM ET
Yea I think the cheap shot he gave talbot would be more to talk about
- griouxmvp2012


yea, but even then i think talbot would understand why vinny did it, even if he was wrong
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 7:34 PM ET
Ryan will sign with the Flyers when he hits UFA status, no need to give up assets for him
- TPC

my post was very sarcastic, apologies
moylander
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 06.14.2011

Jun 29 @ 7:34 PM ET
The statement seemed to suggest that the Flyers weren't showing patience. And that he wished they would. It was pretty clear. There seems to be a myth that has developed in the fanbase, that the Flyers don't have a plan. I think the lack of patience is with the fanbase. And that's understandable. But when the Flyers radically changed direction, and traded 17 & 18. It was known that it wasn't going to be an overnight process. The process is still ongoing.
- MJL

To take that a step further part of the plan was to get bigger forwards so look at the haul (Jake, Simmonds, coots, schenn) and the ufa's we let go that season were smaller. Now add homers comments this off season again about getting bigger and notice how read is on the block and Briere is gone. Ilike the direction here.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 7:35 PM ET
Ryan will sign with the Flyers when he hits UFA status, no need to give up assets for him
- TPC

Yea that's almost a given
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 7:35 PM ET
Even with all the speculation and rumors floating around, I thought there would be more things actually happening today. I thought there were going to be quite a few mix ups. It might still happen, but its kind of been crickets.
- mikel33

it will break loose once the picking starts tomorrow
phatpat44
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NS
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 7:35 PM ET
Even with all the speculation and rumors floating around, I thought there would be more things actually happening today. I thought there were going to be quite a few mix ups. It might still happen, but its kind of been crickets.
- mikel33


Calm before the storm. A very large storm
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 7:36 PM ET
yea, but even then i think talbot would understand why vinny did it, even if he was wrong
- phatpat44

I yea def it's in the heat of the moment it's not like they hate each other I don't think that stuff matters
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 29 @ 7:36 PM ET
my post was very sarcastic, apologies
- Marc D

Yea I figured haha
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 7:36 PM ET
Calm before the storm. A very large storm
- phatpat44

I think the storm is gonna hit in an hour or 2
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 29 @ 7:37 PM ET
If that had been offered just as that sounds, I can't believe Homer wouldn't have taken that -- if you're actively shopping Coburn and Read only has one year left on his deal, it doesn't get better than that.
- AllInForFlyers


Yeah 22 and 28 for Read and a 3rd I think Homer would be all over that.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 7:37 PM ET
Yea that's almost a given
- griouxmvp2012


The fact that he would give them a hometown discount is a good counter for Homer's overpayment. The contract will probably be fair value in the end.
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 7:38 PM ET
Yeah 22 and 28 for Read and a 3rd I think Homer would be all over that.
- jstross


I doubt that that deal is out there for the taking. Maybe Read + 41st overall for those 2 firsts
phatpat44
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NS
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 7:38 PM ET
I think the storm is gonna hit in an hour or 2
- griouxmvp2012


hope it waits till to tomorrow. beacause i will be quite intoxicated within a couple of hours
PhillySportsGuy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: any donut with a hole in the middle can get (frank)ed right in its hole, NJ
Joined: 04.08.2012

Jun 29 @ 7:39 PM ET
I think the storm is gonna hit in an hour or 2
- griouxmvp2012


Hurricane Homer
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 7:39 PM ET
hope it waits till to tomorrow. beacause i will be quite intoxicated within a couple of hours
- phatpat44

Yea me too haha me and my broken arm got nothin better to do lol
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 7:39 PM ET
I think the storm is gonna hit in an hour or 2
- griouxmvp2012

No deal will get done till within hour or two of draft. Teams still waiting out other teams.
mikel33
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, NJ
Joined: 08.09.2007

Jun 29 @ 7:40 PM ET
Hurricane Homer
- PhillySportsGuy


I like it. After the deal, he can tell these guys that they were rocked like a hurricane.
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 29 @ 7:40 PM ET
My gut feeling:

Homer is deadpan against trading Read.

I don't know why I think that, but I do. Maybe it's the lack of name dropping in rumors, especially during this past season, even though he's cheap as hell and would fetch a pretty nice return to a contender?

I dunno. I just don't think we'll see him dealt unless it's for an all star Dman
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