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Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 29 @ 9:01 AM ET
We gonna see any deals today you guys think or is it all gonna go down tomorrow??
- griouxmvp2012


That's a question for Ek.. I could see some deals go down, cause all the GM's are in the same spot now..Homer said he's been receiving lots of calls so far. 6 calls...5 from Mike Gillis and the other was Nonis on behalf of Gillis.. please please take Luongo for Schenn and your first.. It'll solve your goaltending problems and I won't get fired for (frank)ing this up.
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Jun 29 @ 9:02 AM ET
asf thinks Coby could be gone as soon as today. they apparently can't give mez away, though they would like to.
- isaiah520


I don't understand this rush to get rid of Coburn?
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 9:03 AM ET
That's a question for Ek.. I could see some deals go down, cause all the GM's are in the same spot now..Homer said he's been receiving lots of calls so far.
- Hextall271

Coby and the 11th for mps and the 7th and a 3rd. What you think good bad??
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 9:03 AM ET
I don't understand this rush to get rid of Coburn?
- Dkos

space to sign a goalie?

I don't get it either, but it better be a great return
nastyflyergirl
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: this space for rent, PA
Joined: 09.19.2006

Jun 29 @ 9:04 AM ET
in the 1990 THN draft preview, ex Flyers GM Bob Clarke said he thought Jagr was the best player in the draft. oh how timing is everything
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jun 29 @ 9:05 AM ET
Couts coby +11 for 1st?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 29 @ 9:05 AM ET
If I were them, my plan would be to address goal without trading any assets. I'd prefer to re sign Read, and if I remember correctly, we have the space to do that now. Wait for a buyout on Luongo, if that doesn't happen, sign Emery andpass the reigns to Mason...can't be sure, but from seeing him so far, he's a solid young tender. Address the forward issues in UFA. Trade Coburn if you must but get a cheaper defenseman back in return.
- Hextall271

mason's had 4 bad yrs in a row, so its risky to hand the reigns over to him. Emory is prob OK to share time w/ him.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 9:08 AM ET
Couts coby +11 for 1st?
- PhillaBully

I would do that who would you take I would have to say McKinnon
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 29 @ 9:09 AM ET
Coby and the 11th for mps and the 7th and a 3rd. What you think good bad??
- griouxmvp2012


Who is mps sorry?
PLindbergh31
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 29 @ 9:10 AM ET
I'm not the biggest Coburn fan in the world, but he's a pretty solid d-man when put in the correct role.

What is the rush to trade him? Flyers are already thin on the blueline due to the uncertainty of Grossmann and Meszaros. Is the idea in trading Coburn to clear cap space? If Coburn is traded is he being traded for a draft pick?

I just don't see how trading Coburn to clear cap space makes the team better in the short term.

Trading Read and Coburn doesn't make much sense to me.
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jun 29 @ 9:10 AM ET
I would do that who would you take I would have to say McKinnon
- griouxmvp2012

I would take jones... We have Schenn Giroux Laughton as our centers
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 9:11 AM ET
Who is mps sorry?
- Hextall271

Magnus Pääjärvi
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 29 @ 9:11 AM ET
mason's had 4 bad yrs in a row, so its risky to hand the reigns over to him. Emory is prob OK to share time w/ him.
- isaiah520


Bill made a good point about Emery though.. He's not as fast post to post as he used to be, so he might not survive with the type of shots he'll see. Luongo has slowed as well, but I think he's still got enough lateral ability to help us for 2 or 3 years.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 9:12 AM ET
I would take jones... We have Schenn Giroux Laughton as our centers
- PhillaBully

I know what your saying but IMO McKinnon is gonna be better then g
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 29 @ 9:13 AM ET
A flyers team with jagr and forsberg
- PhillaBully

frightening isnt it?

If they did draft Jagr, and everything happens the same as it did historically, do the flyers throw half the team at Quebec for Lindros at that point?
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jun 29 @ 9:13 AM ET
I know what your saying but IMO McKinnon is gonna be better then g
- griouxmvp2012

If you're going best player available then I would go mackinon. I just can't pass up on jones even though mackinon is a much safer pick
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 29 @ 9:13 AM ET
Magnus Pääjärvi
- griouxmvp2012


Ah ok.. I was gonna look to see who has the 3rd.. Don't know what MPS makes, but that sounds like a reasonable trade. get another young forward with potential.. dump 4 mil in cap money trade up to draft a young dman.. I still say they will need to replace Coburn somehow unless they think Lauridsen can do it.
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 9:14 AM ET
frightening isnt it?

If they did draft Jagr, and everything happens the same as it did historically, do the flyers throw half the team at Quebec for Lindros at that point?

- the deaninator

I would if dros never got hurt imagine the numbers he would put up
PhillaBully
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.20.2010

Jun 29 @ 9:15 AM ET
frightening isnt it?

If they did draft Jagr, and everything happens the same as it did historically, do the flyers throw half the team at Quebec for Lindros at that point?

- the deaninator

I don't think it would have been as much. They might decide that the price is way to high.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 9:16 AM ET
Rip Coburn
Meszaros it obviously isn't working
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 9:17 AM ET
I know what your saying but IMO McKinnon is gonna be better then g
- griouxmvp2012



Bold prediction!
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 9:18 AM ET
Ah ok.. I was gonna look to see who has the 3rd.. Don't know what MPS makes, but that sounds like a reasonable trade. get another young forward with potential.. dump 4 mil in cap money trade up to draft a young dman.. I still say they will need to replace Coburn somehow unless they think Lauridsen can do it.
- Hextall271

Scuderi could replace coby no??
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

Jun 29 @ 9:18 AM ET
Bold prediction!
- Tomahawk

I know I know lol
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 29 @ 9:19 AM ET
Ah ok.. I was gonna look to see who has the 3rd.. Don't know what MPS makes, but that sounds like a reasonable trade. get another young forward with potential.. dump 4 mil in cap money trade up to draft a young dman.. I still say they will need to replace Coburn somehow unless they think Lauridsen can do it.
- Hextall271



That's more or less why trading Coburn right now makes absolutely no sense -- unless they expect to throw Darnell Nurse into the deep end of the pool as an 18-year-old... oh wait...
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 29 @ 9:20 AM ET
I would if dros never got hurt imagine the numbers he would put up
- griouxmvp2012


it makes you think.

jagr-forsberg-recchi

that first line would have been better than the legion of doom if they were all on PEDs.
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