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Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:54 PM ET
bryz told him not to sign if drafted here
- Crimsoninja

so that is what they mean by The Russian Factor
Giroux_Is_God
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CLASS DISMISSED
Joined: 12.15.2011

Jun 29 @ 4:55 PM ET

- Winning

OH GOD MY SIDES
mayorofangrytown
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Downingtown, PA
Joined: 08.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 4:56 PM ET
I'm done with work and out of the heat...in ten minutes or so, I go on my beer run and prepare for the draft
- Jsaquella

I'm leaving for beer right now. Saskatchewan is running away with this...
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 29 @ 4:57 PM ET
OH GOD MY SIDES
- Giroux_Is_God


I know..hilarious... even a phone with an orange back light..lol
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 29 @ 4:58 PM ET
Both steals is what I meant
- Winning

How did Laughton go from a Reach to a Steal?

Gonna need more than a handful of games to call him a steal, at this point his offensive game is nowhere near coots (and coots isn't exactly an offensive juggernaut).
Just5
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.22.2008

Jun 29 @ 4:59 PM ET
So is the coburn trade dead lol what happened sounded like it was going down
- griouxmvp2012


Yah I'd like to get the #5 pick for coburn over with please
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:00 PM ET


- Winning

The fact that he's never dominated a single level he's been at in the russian leagues is a bit strange... I mean usually the highly ranked russian prospects have at the very least lighted a the minor league.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 5:00 PM ET
How did Laughton go from a Reach to a Steal?

Gonna need more than a handful of games to call him a steal, at this point his offensive game is nowhere near coots (and coots isn't exactly an offensive juggernaut).

- Yosimar89

20th overall
the numbers hes posting in juniors
Hes going to be special
phatpat44
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NS
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:01 PM ET
The fact that he's never dominated a single level he's been at in the russian leagues is a bit strange... I mean usually the highly ranked russian prospects have at the very least lighted a the minor league.
- Yosimar89


Except for the world juniors
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 29 @ 5:02 PM ET
How did Laughton go from a Reach to a Steal?

Gonna need more than a handful of games to call him a steal, at this point his offensive game is nowhere near coots (and coots isn't exactly an offensive juggernaut).

- Yosimar89


There's a few NHL experts that do a re-draft every year. Basically kind of a hindsight draft, as to who would have gone higher had their draft been held a year later. Giroux was the biggest riser in the 2006 draft and Laughton was the biggest jump in 2012's class, from 21 to 10
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:03 PM ET
20th overall
the numbers hes posting in juniors
Hes going to be special

- Winning

You mean 56 points in 49 games?... or 53 in 64 games the year before that?

Not exactly mind blowing, He's a smaller, less offensive skilled version of Coots with better wheels, as of now nothing more than a 3rd line center.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 5:04 PM ET
You mean 56 points in 49 games?... or 53 in 64 games the year before that?

Not exactly mind blowing, He's a smaller, less offensive skilled version of Coots with better wheels, as of now nothing more than a 3rd line center.

- Yosimar89

you obviously didn't watch him play in the playoffs this year
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 5:06 PM ET
You mean 56 points in 49 games?... or 53 in 64 games the year before that?

Not exactly mind blowing, He's a smaller, less offensive skilled version of Coots with better wheels, as of now nothing more than a 3rd line center.

- Yosimar89


Laughton also missed some time due to suspensions but he is a really solid player.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:07 PM ET
Except for the world juniors
- phatpat44

The end to end rush's were nice especially for the highlight real, but 2 points in 6 games. Now he was playing against kids older than him and he truly should dominate this upcoming WJC but still.

Not buying the hype, especially with the crazy Malkin comparisons.
phatpat44
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NS
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:08 PM ET
The end to end rush's were nice especially for the highlight real, but 2 points in 6 games. Now he was playing against kids older than him and he truly should dominate this upcoming WJC but still.

Not buying the hype, especially with the crazy Malkin comparisons.

- Yosimar89



I'm not buying Malkin either, he is not as "can't miss" as Malkin was, but he should be very good
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:09 PM ET
Laughton also missed some time due to suspensions but he is a really solid player.
- ob18

No doubt he is, hard worker, and im sure he'll improve offensively.


But if a young center is getting moved from the Flyers, i hope it's laughton and not Coots or Bschenn (of course those two will have more value since they're already up with the big boys, but yeah).
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 5:12 PM ET
No doubt he is, hard worker, and im sure he'll improve offensively.


But if a young center is getting moved from the Flyers, i hope it's laughton and not Coots or Bschenn (of course those two will have more value since they're already up with the big boys, but yeah).

- Yosimar89


Even with it being juniors he was 61.1% on faceoffs (not even tops on Oshawa)
exlund
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Manywhere, NJ
Joined: 02.16.2007

Jun 29 @ 5:17 PM ET
http://www.broadstreethockey.com/2013/2/26/4032650/sean-couturier-stats-defense-flyers
Enjoy the read good sir.

- JAKEw1234


Yeah, that BSH article is bunk...almost as good as when they tried to claim the Flyers "already had their Suter" in Matt Carle.

I did an extensive debunk a couple weeks ago when Bill blogged about Couturier and cited that BSH article...see about half way down:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...?thread_id=107518&page=24


ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 5:17 PM ET
This mock has the Flyers selecting Bo Horvat

http://futureconsideratio...tewart-scouting-director/
phatpat44
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NS
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:19 PM ET
Yeah, that BSH article is bunk...almost as good as when they tried to claim the Flyers "already had their Suter" in Matt Carle.

I did an extensive debunk a couple weeks ago when Bill blogged about Couturier and cited that BSH article...see about half way down:

http://www.hockeybuzz.com...?thread_id=107518&page=24

- exlund


I remember that Suter to Matt Carle article. It was pretty rediculous.
Yosimar89
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 05.11.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:20 PM ET
This mock has the Flyers selecting Bo Horvat

http://futureconsideratio...tewart-scouting-director/

- ob18

I have faith that the Flyers will pick yet another Center, so if they do i hope they somehow end up with Monahan.
AllInForFlyers
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Call Me Sweetcheeks
Joined: 03.18.2013

Jun 29 @ 5:23 PM ET
No good rumors for the last few hours. Darn it. I was having a lot of fun.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 29 @ 5:24 PM ET
This mock has the Flyers selecting Bo Horvat

http://futureconsideratio...tewart-scouting-director/

- ob18

Interesting how far down they have some of the other defenseman after Jones and Nurse and the order of the dmen

Pulock at 27th and Morrissey and Morin ahead of Ristolainen and Zadarov
phatpat44
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NS
Joined: 04.18.2010

Jun 29 @ 5:26 PM ET
Interesting how far down they have some of the other defenseman after Jones and Nurse and the order of the dmen

Pulock at 27th and Morrissey and Morin ahead of Ristolainen and Zadarov

- Marc D



There is so much disparity in the defenseman in all of the mock drafts. They all have different guys slipping way down after nurse + Jones
FlyersFirst
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.01.2011

Jun 29 @ 5:29 PM ET
This mock has the Flyers selecting Bo Horvat

http://futureconsideratio...tewart-scouting-director/

- ob18


Does anyone compare the real draft to all of these mock drafts after the fact and see how off everyone is?
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