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Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:02 PM ET
That's a good point.. Streit is older, but he has a lot better shot from the point and will prob be a better replacement for Timonen.. I was reading on TSN last night in the comments, people were blasting the Flyers for signing him, and one person said.. why do the Flyers need another Timonen.. um he's not as good as Timonen, but it shows how out of touch some fans are.. i'd love to see him bring what Timo has.
- Hextall271

Plus he hasn't played a ton of games for someone his age. He isn't the best signing. But I understand why it was made. We needed a puck moving D-man. We got one. We needed a QB for the 2nd power play. We got one. We, as of now, have 3 stay at home(Coburn, Grossmann, Schenn) and 3 puck movers(Kimmo, Streit, Gus). That's how you balance. But, in ten minutes, we might have 8 puck movers and -14 stay at homes.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:05 PM ET
If they got the 7th would anybody be upset if they took Nurse & at 11 landed Ristolainen ?
- ob18


i'd rather see a forward at 7 and risto at 11

and if it's risto at 11, i'd be willing to bet he makes the team in 13-14 (assuming coburn's traded)
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jun 29 @ 1:05 PM ET
If they got the 7th would anybody be upset if they took Nurse & at 11 landed Ristolainen ?
- ob18

Not at all. But if they do get the 7th, I'd like to see them try to get up to 5. I can definitely see Jones falling to 5.
Col- MacK
Fla- Drouin
Tb- nichushkin
Nsh- Barkov
Phi- Jones....


Hey a guy can dream right?
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:05 PM ET
http://video.tsn.ca/?dl=main/latest/1/0/956451/clip/482


If Morin doesn't scream Flyers pick, I don't know who does. I just hope he isn't the 11 pick

- phatpat44


I wouldn't mind him just not at #11
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:06 PM ET
Not at all. But if they do get the 7th, I'd like to see them try to get up to 5. I can definitely see Jones falling to 5.
Col- MacK
Fla- Drouin
Tb- nichushkin
Nsh- Barkov
Phi- Jones....


Hey a guy can dream right?

- fecondo


If they had a shot at Monahan he's the pick for me not Nurse.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:06 PM ET
i'd rather see a forward at 7 and risto at 11

and if it's risto at 11, i'd be willing to bet he makes the team in 13-14 (assuming coburn's traded)

- FlyerMike18


I would agree, Kimmo would be a good mentor for him.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 29 @ 1:07 PM ET
Not at all. But if they do get the 7th, I'd like to see them try to get up to 5. I can definitely see Jones falling to 5.
Col- MacK
Fla- Drouin
Tb- nichushkin
Nsh- Barkov
Phi- Jones....


Hey a guy can dream right?

- fecondo


Out of those top 5, I am really high on Barkov.
the deaninator
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Purgatory, DE
Joined: 08.06.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:07 PM ET
Plus he hasn't played a ton of games for someone his age. He isn't the best signing. But I understand why it was made. We needed a puck moving D-man. We got one. We needed a QB for the 2nd power play. We got one. We, as of now, have 3 stay at home(Coburn, Grossmann, Schenn) and 3 puck movers(Kimmo, Streit, Gus). That's how you balance. But, in ten minutes, we might have 8 puck movers and -14 stay at homes.
- Deasr1


Not sure what I think of this coburn trade as it stands should it actually happen. Im guessing the oilers have soured on paajarvi but the #7 is the kicker in this deal. I'd be pleased with the 7th pick,
who knows maybe paajarvi needs a change of scenery to continue developing.
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:09 PM ET
Evander Kane> Bobby Ryan
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:10 PM ET
If they got the 7th would anybody be upset if they took Nurse & at 11 landed Ristolainen ?
- ob18

only if they passed on monahan
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:11 PM ET
NHL - Flyers and Oilers closing in on a deal, source says they Flyers want to swap 11th for 7th and Paajarvi for Coburn.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:11 PM ET
only if they passed on monahan
- isaiah520


That would be if he was gone if not I run to the podium and select him.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
NHL - Flyers and Oilers closing in on a deal, source says they Flyers want to swap 11th for 7th and Paajarvi for Coburn.
- Winning


meh
fecondo
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wading in the velvet sea, PA
Joined: 03.16.2008

Jun 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
Out of those top 5, I am really high on Barkov.
- flyer_nutter

Same here. But he's exactly the kind of center Nashville needs, so I don't see him falling past 4. Butiif he did, I'd take have 1.56 seconds after Nashville makes their pick
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:12 PM ET
Out of those top 5, I am really high on Barkov.
- flyer_nutter

Wow, peanut, please this is a family site! We don't need to hear about you smoking Brakov and getting high...
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:13 PM ET
Out of those top 5, I am really high on Barkov.
- flyer_nutter


me too man
vejim
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: FL
Joined: 07.08.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:13 PM ET
I will take Seguin and Kane and ship as many Dmen as we can, just dont trade next years #1 and #2 Homey
Deasr1
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Mays Landing, NJ
Joined: 06.21.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:13 PM ET
NHL - Flyers and Oilers closing in on a deal, source says they Flyers want to swap 11th for 7th and Paajarvi for Coburn.
- Winning

I think this is a bad trade. Just my opinion
Winning
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Put in Matt Read
Joined: 03.29.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:14 PM ET
meh
- ob18

trading top 4 dman to move up 4 spots and a bust left winger.
FlyerMike18
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.07.2009

Jun 29 @ 1:15 PM ET
NHL - Flyers and Oilers closing in on a deal, source says they Flyers want to swap 11th for 7th and Paajarvi for Coburn.
- Winning


i don't hate it in principal, but i'd like a sweetener

that's kind of how i felt initially about jvr/luke though, so....
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:15 PM ET
Well,doing all that would give the Flyers good odds at the first overall pick in the 2014 Draft.
- bmeltzer


Bill, I would be ok with that....its time to go all in with the build from within philosophy, if that means having another bad year so be it.....
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:15 PM ET
i don't hate it in principal, but i'd like a sweetener

that's kind of how i felt initially about jvr/luke though, so....

- FlyerMike18


maybe if Edmonton included a 2nd rounder?
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 29 @ 1:16 PM ET
That would be if he was gone if not I run to the podium and select him.
- ob18

he would give them flexibility going forward. they are in a terrible hole defensively for the nxt few yrs
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 29 @ 1:17 PM ET
trading top 4 dman to move up 4 spots and a bust left winger.
- Winning

How is Pajarvi a bust? He is 22 and yes he went to the AHL 2 years ago but he has a decent season last year. Could just use a change of scenery. Or could be bust....
nonpoint22
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 02.16.2011

Jun 29 @ 1:17 PM ET
NHL - Flyers and Oilers closing in on a deal, source says they Flyers want to swap 11th for 7th and Paajarvi for Coburn.
- Winning


Dont do it Homer....thats nuts....Paajarvi is not any good...
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