Interesting rumors about Seguin being available and Dallas, TB and Columbus being interested. Being fueled by Seguin's sister who tweeted something to the effect of being sad and Boston being home. Interesting.
- gkmkiller

The price for him is going to be insane, teams will kick the tires, but I highly doubt he gets traded.

The price for him is going to be insane, teams will kick the tires, but I highly doubt he gets traded.
- aecliptic

I could see teams making compelling offers. Look at Columbus; they have three first-rounders and want to desperately add another top-six player. I wouldn't be surprised if they offered up Johansen, #14, plus for Seguin.

I could see teams making compelling offers. Look at Columbus; they have three first-rounders and want to desperately add another top-six player. I wouldn't be surprised if they offered up Johansen, #14, plus for Seguin.
- gkmkiller

I honestly think theyre just toying with teams. They have no reason to trade him. They will trade Peverley and resign Rask.

I honestly think theyre just toying with teams. They have no reason to trade him. They will trade Peverley and resign Rask.
- aecliptic

It depends on how badly they want to try to re-sign Horton. He's headed to free agency as it stands but freeing up Seguin's $5.75MM hit while adding some low cost pieces and draft choices from Columbus would also enable Boston to bring Horton back. Columbus has the ammunition to "blow Boston away," with an offer if they feel so inclined. I'm not saying it's going to happen but I wouldn't fall out of my chair if it did.

It depends on how badly they want to try to re-sign Horton. He's headed to free agency as it stands but freeing up Seguin's $5.75MM hit while adding some low cost pieces and draft choices from Columbus would also enable Boston to bring Horton back. Columbus has the ammunition to "blow Boston away," with an offer if they feel so inclined. I'm not saying it's going to happen but I wouldn't fall out of my chair if it did.
- gkmkiller

So what youre saying is Horton is more important to Boston's success than Seguin?

Thats (frank)ing ridiculous.

So what youre saying is Horton is more important to Boston's success than Seguin?

Thats (frank)ing ridiculous.
- aecliptic

not more important but they have sooooo many good centers. seguin needs to be a top 6 center and with bergeron due to get an extension upwards of $6 million a year and krejci an amazing 2C already, they could move seguin for a guy like bobby ryan maybe.

It depends on how badly they want to try to re-sign Horton. He's headed to free agency as it stands but freeing up Seguin's $5.75MM hit while adding some low cost pieces and draft choices from Columbus would also enable Boston to bring Horton back. Columbus has the ammunition to "blow Boston away," with an offer if they feel so inclined. I'm not saying it's going to happen but I wouldn't fall out of my chair if it did.
- gkmkiller

Columbus has 14, 19 and 27 this year... although Seguin is an awesome player... in this years draft, all 3 of those players could become NHLers very soon...

if they can draft Frederik Gauthier, Kerby Rychel and Josh Morrissey... theyre in good shape for the future. But those are just players I think look pretty good.

CBJ isnt in a win now mode so its not necessary for them to make such a huge deal. I wouldnt sacrifice more than one of the 1st rounders this year.... Id give them a 1st this year and a 1st next year in the package.

Columbus has 14, 19 and 27 this year... although Seguin is an awesome player... in this years draft, all 3 of those players could become NHLers very soon...

if they can draft Frederik Gauthier, Kerby Rychel and Josh Morrissey... theyre in good shape for the future. But those are just players I think look pretty good.

CBJ isnt in a win now mode so its not necessary for them to make such a huge deal. I wouldnt sacrifice more than one of the 1st rounders this year.... Id give them a 1st this year and a 1st next year in the package.
- aecliptic

Never mind I said anything. Obviously you know more about it than I do.

Never mind I said anything. Obviously you know more about it than I do.
- gkmkiller

Did I say I did... am I not allowed an opinion on a potential deal that 2 teams might have?

not more important but they have sooooo many good centers. seguin needs to be a top 6 center and with bergeron due to get an extension upwards of $6 million a year and krejci an amazing 2C already, they could move seguin for a guy like bobby ryan maybe.
- rangerdanger94

Doesnt Seguin also play wing?

Doesnt Seguin also play wing?
- aecliptic

only because he is forced to by the bruins' depth. he's a natural center and prefers and excels at that position.

only because he is forced to by the bruins' depth. he's a natural center and prefers and excels at that position.
- rangerdanger94

I dont know man... if Im a player, and Ive been to the Stanley cup 2 times in my 3 years in the league... and won once... and Im asked to play wing, I play wing because I care about winning and being apart of a successful team.

Did I say I did... am I not allowed an opinion on a potential deal that 2 teams might have?
- aecliptic

You said I was "franking" ridiculous; or rather that the idea that the Bruins might want to keep a guy that nearly helped them win a 2nd SCF in three years playing a vital role on a line with Lucic and Krejci was. In essence you were attacking my opinion.

Multiple credible sources said Seguin can be had. They also said it would take an overwhelming offer to get him. Columbus is a team that could make that kind of offer.

I am quite familiar with that team and there is absolutely an urgency to make the playoffs next year. In order to do that they need impact talent that can help them next year. It's very unlikely any of the three guys they draft, assuming they remain where they do, are going to help next year.

That team overachieved primarily on the back of superb goaltending. Their team puck possession stats were awful and even after trading for Gaborik they absolutely need another legit offensive player. If they return more or less the same lineup that ended last season they would need a repeat performance from Bob and some luck to get into the playoffs. If I am Kekalainen I am not betting on those things happening and I am trying to make another big move.

I dont know man... if Im a player, and Ive been to the Stanley cup 2 times in my 3 years in the league... and won once... and Im asked to play wing, I play wing because I care about winning and being apart of a successful team.
- aecliptic

seguin doesn't wanna be dealt. it's the bruins management that think their team might be better by trading for a pure power forward or pure sniper or for picks and prospects or whatever they're asking.

So what youre saying is Horton is more important to Boston's success than Seguin?

Thats (frank)ing ridiculous.
- aecliptic

No, what I said is maybe they feel Horton plus whatever they get back from Columbus puts Boston in a better long-term position than not having that but keeping Seguin. Seguin is a terrific young player being wasted on Boston's bottom six currently. That's not to say he can't move up and fill in for Horton should he move but truthfully those are two very different players. Horton brings a level of physicality that Seguin does not.

You said I was "franking" ridiculous; or rather that the idea that the Bruins might want to keep a guy that nearly helped them win a 2nd SCF in three years playing a vital role on a line with Lucic and Krejci was. In essence you were attacking my opinion.

Multiple credible sources said Seguin can be had. They also said it would take an overwhelming offer to get him. Columbus is a team that could make that kind of offer.

I am quite familiar with that team and there is absolutely an urgency to make the playoffs next year. In order to do that they need impact talent that can help them next year. It's very unlikely any of the three guys they draft, assuming they remain where they do, are going to help next year.

That team overachieved primarily on the back of superb goaltending. Their team puck possession stats were awful and even after trading for Gaborik they absolutely need another legit offensive player. If they return more or less the same lineup that ended last season they would need a repeat performance from Bob and some luck to get into the playoffs. If I am Kekalainen I am not betting on those things happening and I am trying to make another big move.
- gkmkiller

I never said you were, the idea of it all was ridiculous.

Like I said if I was CBJ, I wouldnt offer more than one 1st rounder this year, if they want next years, thats fine. However, if they want to blow Boston away, it wont matter, dont think CBJ make the playoffs with or without Seguin. Theyre better off stock piling those prospects with top 6 potential.

If CBJ was staying in the West, theyd have a shot at the playoffs, but since theyre coming East, I dont see it happening.

I never said you were, the idea of it all was ridiculous.

Like I said if I was CBJ, I wouldnt offer more than one 1st rounder this year, if they want next years, thats fine. However, if they want to blow Boston away, it wont matter, dont think CBJ make the playoffs with or without Seguin. Theyre better off stock piling those prospects with top 6 potential.

If CBJ was staying in the West, theyd have a shot at the playoffs, but since theyre coming East, I dont see it happening.
- aecliptic

Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline 7m
#CBJ have made it clear the type of player they'd like to add: skilled F, under longterm contract. Yes, Boston's Tyler Seguin fits the mold.

they don't want those 1sts anyway.

No, what I said is maybe they feel Horton plus whatever they get back from Columbus puts Boston in a better long-term position than not having that but keeping Seguin. Seguin is a terrific young player being wasted on Boston's bottom six currently. That's not to say he can't move up and fill in for Horton should he move but truthfully those are two very different players. Horton brings a level of physicality that Seguin does not.
- gkmkiller

Jagr is gone, someone has to play with Bergeron.

I never said you were, the idea of it all was ridiculous.

Like I said if I was CBJ, I wouldnt offer more than one 1st rounder this year, if they want next years, thats fine. However, if they want to blow Boston away, it wont matter, dont think CBJ make the playoffs with or without Seguin. Theyre better off stock piling those prospects with top 6 potential.

If CBJ was staying in the West, theyd have a shot at the playoffs, but since theyre coming East, I dont see it happening.
- aecliptic

One other thing to consider; Seguin is going to be a valuable asset and important contributor for whomever he plays for a good many years. He's 21 and has yet to his his prime in all probability. There is a reason he was chosen 2nd overall and the Jackets could use a potential franchise player like that. The only player like that they have had was Nash. Their other high draft picks didn't pan out as projected.

One other thing to consider; Seguin is going to be a valuable asset and important contributor for whomever he plays for a good many years. He's 21 and has yet to his his prime in all probability. There is a reason he was chosen 2nd overall and the Jackets could use a potential franchise player like that. The only player like that they have had was Nash. Their other high draft picks didn't pan out as projected.
- gkmkiller

I understand why they want to go after Seguin, but if making the playoffs next year is the agenda... I dont see it happening... not for a long time.

Jagr is gone, someone has to play with Bergeron.
- aecliptic

maybe another winger instead of a center

Jagr is gone, someone has to play with Bergeron.
- aecliptic

Presumably that player could come back from Columbus. Ryan Johansen (a C who could play 3rd line in Boston), a winger with some offensive ability (perhaps Calvert, Atkinson or Foligno?) and #14 would get Boston's attention. Johansen was the #4 pick the same year that Seguin was drafted and reminds me some of David Backes and that would be the best case. They would also get a wing that can contribute on the 3rd or 2nd line (perhaps with Bergeron as you said) plus a valuable draft choice.

maybe another winger instead of a center
- rangerdanger94

Glen mentioned Johanson, but hes another center... only guys I can think of that CBJ has that Boston might want is Atkinson.

Part of me wants to go out on a limb and make a bold prediction....Vinny signs with the Rangers. Richards will convince him to come
- TPC

That would give the Rangers Stepan, Brassard, Vinny L, and Brad Richards at center. Who is going to play wing in that group?

That would give the Rangers Stepan, Brassard, Vinny L, and Brad Richards at center. Who is going to play wing in that group?
- Pete V

I suggested Vinny move to LW.