here's what i don't get. the isles are on record saying they will never buy out dipietro yet they will also never play him again. if they're going to pay the 4.5/year to not play, why not pay 5.3 a year for a guy who makes you a contender in the east. with a better goalie, they get past pittsburgh. if they decide after 5 years they don't want to play luongo it's not their problem to solve. it's vancouver's with the recapture. this is really a no brainer for the isles which leads me to believe either Lu said no or the Canucks said no. Either way if they don't deal cory, Lu is traded or bought out. Why not buy out dipietro instead and get a conditional pick from the isles. if the isles make the playoffs in 3 of the next 5 years with Lu playing at least 55 games, it's a 2nd rounder in 2018. if they win the cup in the next 5 years, it's a 1st rounder in 2018. if they miss the playoffs in 3 of the next 5 years, the canucks send a 2nd rounder. risk/reward on both sides. just get your head out of your ass gillis and don't let the window hit your ass on the way out as it continues to close.
- therealagent

I don't recall seeing anywhere where snow was quoted as saying DP wouldn't be bought out. He's got until july 4th and then possibly next year as well to make the decision. I'd rather they buy him out, but until it happens, Snow likely won't say anything at all. He's extremely sneaky that way, very little information ever comes out from the Isles and he never gives an indication of what he's going to do.

if they don't buyout DP then I'm going to worry all summer they're inviting him back to camp and possibly letting him compete for the job.

Look at the stats this year smart a$$. You think Ward, or Price or even Luongo was better than Reimer this year?

Keep chirping kid.
- djamon

Chirping? I'm simply agreeing with you. And I would even ask why limit Reimer to just being the best Canadian goalie? In my opinion he was the best goalie from any country.

I have never denied the potential is there for schneider. but is it out of the realm to think he won't realize it? Is that crazy? If we're going on potential, i guess gardiner is the next Jesus.
- clark_griswold

Nope, Gardiner is the next Norris(Winner) I think he could be the next Jesus, if he could grow a beard.

i have watched him several times, and he has the tools. But the last i saw of him was not a pretty sight, which is when the chips were down and the pressure was on. We can't say if he'll be the next andrew raycroft or the next pat roy. What we can say is when he was given the opportunity, he failed. That's all i'm saying. I do believe he will be very good, but i have been wrong before and nothing is a lock. You guys saying he is a lock already is what i'm arguing.
- clark_griswold

He's played very well in the playoffs before. You can't base anything off games 3 and 4. Those are completely on AV. There is no way Schneider should have played.

Nope, Gardiner is the next Norris(Winner) I think he could be the next Jesus, if he could grow a beard.
- I-own_da-Northwest

let's be careful with the beard comments. very few canucks can grow them. gardiner might not be able to grow one but his girlfriend has a bearded one.

Nope, Gardiner is the next Norris(Winner) I think he could be the next Jesus, if he could grow a beard.
- I-own_da-Northwest

funny thing is i was saying how gardiner hasn't proven anything and you took it as i said he was amazing. He is in the same boat as schneider bud; loads of potential but haven't proven squat

let's be careful with the beard comments. very few canucks can grow them. gardiner might not be able to grow one but his girlfriend has a bearded one.
- therealagent

Well played sir, that was very insensitive of me, but god, do I ever love jesus

funny thing is i was saying how gardiner hasn't proven anything and you took it as i said he was amazing. He is in the same boat as schneider bud; loads of potential but haven't proven squat
- clark_griswold

Holy crap. You're friggin' clueless.

funny thing is i was saying how gardiner hasn't proven anything and you took it as i said he was amazing. He is in the same boat as schneider bud; loads of potential but haven't proven squat
- clark_griswold

Now you're just putting words in my mouth. I think you would be hard pressed to find a better 3rd pairing d-man in the league than the Jakester. That's why I'm even willing to give up Andrew"lil Zdeno" Alberts to get him as long as you guys add a 2nd or 3rd rounder.

all i'm saying is every goalie on that list has proven more than schneider (which is nothing). I don't claim gardiner IS a superstar, i claim he can be good. Until schneider proves anything, how can it be said he is a lock? hasn't even played what comprises a half season in the show, and his playoff record is awful. Do i think he has the tools to be great? Yes, but lots of guys do that don't reach their potential.

All i hear in this thread is 'you're nuts, schneider is great, etc'..how about reasons why? That's all i'm getting at.
- clark_griswold

let's stop with the silliness. Schneider, while not having a vezina or a cup, is a damn fine goaltender who has value. Picking at things is silly, he's a solid #1.

Really like the blog's main points, especially the fact that some of these GMs need to grow a set.

Seriously. You're going to get fired anyway, unless you're Ken Holland. You might get a longer run, like David Poile, or a shorter run, like Joe Nieuwendyk. But eventually, you're going to get fired.

But why sit there and go down knowing that you didn't have a big enough set to at least try to get yourself in a position where the team you manage could be successful?

This whole thread is ridiculous

Reimer: 53 wins. 10 shutouts. 2.71 GAA. .915 Save %.
Schneider: 84 wins. 12 shutouts. 2.28 GAA. .921 Save %.

Yes. VERY similar stats, indeed.

Given that Reimer and Schneider are equal, I guess this is why Nonis saw the need to bring in Bernier. Bernier should be a nice backup for Reimer.
- hankthetank

and just for interesting read

2:37 pm: Newsday's Art Staple has retweeted @RealKyper as to the reality of the Isles interest in a Luongo for DP swap. However, he says that is the only deal the Isles are willing to do and will give up no assets in the deal. Therefore, Vancouver will probably look elsewhere.

all i'm saying is every goalie on that list has proven more than schneider (which is nothing). I don't claim gardiner IS a superstar, i claim he can be good. Until schneider proves anything, how can it be said he is a lock? hasn't even played what comprises a half season in the show, and his playoff record is awful. Do i think he has the tools to be great? Yes, but lots of guys do that don't reach their potential.

All i hear in this thread is 'you're nuts, schneider is great, etc'..how about reasons why? That's all i'm getting at.
- clark_griswold

I'm not quite sure what any of those goalies on your list has actually proved, beyond Brodeur, who's one year from retirement, and Ward, who hasn't won a playoff series since 2009.

Anderson, seriously?

I'm not saying Schneider has proved anything either, but get a grip. Its fine if you would rather start a team with Hiller than Schneider, that's your prerogative, but I don't recall him proving he's a cup winning goalie...

This whole thread is ridiculous
- westcoastleaf

All the hard work of putting in fair proposals and assessments of players and this is the criticism that's given? Geez that's not even nice.

This whole thread is ridiculous
- westcoastleaf

amen!

I have heard from many places that at least 10 teams are preparing some pretty good offers for Lou so buying out is not an option. Darren Millard even said he heard that peitreangelo may be in play if Lou should be made available for St. Louis to steal from us, however there are currently believed to be 5 or 6 better offers.
- I-own_da-Northwest

This is my favorite comment.

Temper your hopes, as you're sure to be disappointed when a deal or buyout finally gets done.

oilers are in on cary price. eberle and the oilers 1st are involved.

This is my favorite comment.

Temper your hopes, as you're sure to be disappointed when a deal or buyout finally gets done.
- Michael_Stuart

Kesler and the 24th for the 3rd?

Nope, Gardiner is the next Norris(Winner) I think he could be the next Jesus, if he could grow a beard.
- I-own_da-Northwest

Reimer is the next Jesus.

Gawd, your trolling is weak.

I'll have Reimer pray for you.

Kesler and the 24th for the 3rd?
- 1970vintage

It's not necessarily the value that has me saying no; it's just the fit. I think that the Lightning is really trying to get younger here. While not 'old', Kesler's body has taken an absolute beating over the last couple of years. I'd rather keep the guy we're going to get at three and bank on him being as good if not better than Kesler in the long-run.

let's stop with the silliness. Schneider, while not having a vezina or a cup, is a damn fine goaltender who has value. Picking at things is silly, he's a solid #1.
- Isles_since_6

I agree. But so is every goalie on that list.

and just for interesting read

2:37 pm: Newsday's Art Staple has retweeted @RealKyper as to the reality of the Isles interest in a Luongo for DP swap. However, he says that is the only deal the Isles are willing to do and will give up no assets in the deal. Therefore, Vancouver will probably look elsewhere.
- Isles_since_6

This is probably the only trade for Lou that they will get. Nobody is giving up anything for him when they know he will be bought out. At least trading him for Ricky D saves the Canucks 4.6 million dollars of actual money spent.

It's not necessarily the value that has me saying no; it's just the fit. I think that the Lightning is really trying to get younger here. While not 'old', Kesler's body has taken an absolute beating over the last couple of years. I'd rather keep the guy we're going to get at three and bank on him being as good if not better than Kesler in the long-run.
- Michael_Stuart

If the lightning get any younger your going to need soothers on the bench.