No one is claiming him on waivers...jeez. You can't be serious here.
- djamon

Lou?

Mackenzie stated that he believes that there would be multiple claims for Luongo if he was put on waivers.

Why try to claim him off waivers when you could offer a 7th round pick and secure him? He'll either be traded for next to nothing or bought out.
- Canuckleafer

Oh, I agree, but I don't think he passes through waivers if he gets put on them.

Yes, you still have to pay him, but the price to acquire him is free, meaning, you don't have to give up anything to get him.
- 1970vintage

You think anyone is worried about the 2nd rounder it'll take to get Luongo? The Canucks may have to actually throw something of value into the trade in order to get someone to take Lu's contract.

Repeat...the only problem with Luongo is the contract. He's still a very good goalie, I don't think anyone with a brain is denying that. But the unfortunate reality is that his contract is terrible.

He will never be claimed on waivers when the entire NHL knows there's a decent chance he'll be a FA in a week.

If Schneider didn't get injured he could very well have walked away with the Conn Smythe this year!
- KB3Point0

Same can be said for Craig Anderson

Perfect - Utica Comets should easily win the championship then.
- docmorgan

Still counts against the cap, no point - buy him out

Lou?

Mackenzie stated that he believes that there would be multiple claims for Luongo if he was put on waivers.
- Fosco

When did he state that? If he did he's wrong.

No one is claiming him on waivers...jeez. You can't be serious here.
- djamon

Jeez. You can't be serious. The comment was why would Luongo not just veto every trade to force the Canucks to buy him out. I responded with, because then they could put him on waivers and he would be stuck going somewhere he didn't want to go.

If someone was willing to trade for him, they'd quite likely be willing to pick him up off waivers. Stop taking my comments out of context!

When did he state that? If he did he's wrong.
- djamon

Hmmmm. Who do I trust here? You or Bob Mckenzie?
I'm leaning towards taking your word over his.

You are an example of why people like Burke think analytics are overrated in hockey. You pick and choose the stats that work well for your specific argument and just ignore those that don't. You are unable, or more likely unwilling as it would contradict your argument, to put those stats into any form of context.

You've also done about as well as Burke in assessing goalies so far.
- KB3Point0

well, stats aside, it's hard to assess corey no matter how much you watch with such a small sample size. So to my point (for the umpteenth time) potential, but far from saying he's an absolute lock, trade luongo, schneider is going to be sick FOR SURE for years.

Lou?

Mackenzie stated that he believes that there would be multiple claims for Luongo if he was put on waivers.
- Fosco

Anyone know the recapture situation when a waivers claim is involved? I can't fathom recapture being enforced on a team that's trying to use a waivers & a compliance buyout to avoid recapture.

Hmmmm. Who do I trust here? You or Bob Mckenzie?
I'm leaning towards taking your word over his.
- hankthetank

OWNED!!!!

Anyone know the recapture situation when a waivers claim is involved? I can't fathom recapture being enforced on a team that's trying to use a waivers & a compliance buyout to avoid recapture.
- DrChristianTroy

Don't know if you saw my reply on the Lightning thread from yesterday (I think), but this is your best avatar yet.

Hmmmm. Who do I trust here? You or Bob Mckenzie?
I'm leaning towards taking your word over his.
- hankthetank

Except there's no proof he said it. Someone else mentioned it back in January, but that was before the CBA was signed.

Believe what you want, if Gillis could have placed Lu on waivers and had him claimed he would have done it already.

Anyone know the recapture situation when a waivers claim is involved? I can't fathom recapture being enforced on a team that's trying to use a waivers & a compliance buyout to avoid recapture.
- DrChristianTroy

Yesterday someone said they don't think they would have recapture if they went through waivers, but there was no evidence provide either way.

Jeez. You can't be serious. The comment was why would Luongo not just veto every trade to force the Canucks to buy him out. I responded with, because then they could put him on waivers and he would be stuck going somewhere he didn't want to go.

If someone was willing to trade for him, they'd quite likely be willing to pick him up off waivers. Stop taking my comments out of context!
- KB3Point0

I know what your point was. He's not getting claimed. He passes through waivers then gets bought out and chooses where he goes. That's his plan.

The point is...no one has been willing to trade for him.

Except there's no proof he said it. Soemone else mentioned it back in January, but that was before the CBA was signed.

Believe what you want, if Gillis could have placed Lu on waivers and had him claimed he would have done it already.
- djamon

Dreger also reported that there are a lot teams that would claim him if he were to go on waivers.
As I said before, I've got a few buddy's who work inside the Canucks organization. The fact that people even think Luongo will be going on waivers is funny to me. But people like you, who probably watch 1 or 2 Nucks games a year and don't have any buddy's on the inside like I do, just come here to troll anyway so we don't take you seriously. Can't wait to come here Sunday and see people's reactions to what Gillis has in store.

You think anyone is worried about the 2nd rounder it'll take to get Luongo? The Canucks may have to actually throw something of value into the trade in order to get someone to take Lu's contract.

Repeat...the only problem with Luongo is the contract. He's still a very good goalie, I don't think anyone with a brain is denying that. But the unfortunate reality is that his contract is terrible.

He will never be claimed on waivers when the entire NHL knows there's a decent chance he'll be a FA in a week.
- djamon

Whatevs, clearly you know everything there is to know about NHL SPC's

plus we forgot :

niemi
crawford (won a cup i don't care)
bobby lou
BOBROVSKY

those could be at least even / argued better than schneider

Dreger also reported that there are a lot teams that would claim him if he were to go on waivers.
As I said before, I've got a few buddy's who work inside the Canucks organization. The fact that people even think Luongo will be going on waivers is funny to me. But people like you, who probably watch 1 or 2 Nucks games a year and don't have any buddy's on the inside like I do, just come here to troll anyway so we don't take you seriously. Can't wait to come here Sunday and see people's reactions to what Gillis has in store.
- hankthetank

Dude...you're hilarious. Mostly unintentionally.

I watched almost every Canuck game this year, I live in Victoria...they're all Sportsnet will show. But it's not about the team on the ice anyways. It's about the damn contract. The damn contract that will go with him whether he's claimed on waivers or traded. Gillis has refused to retain salary already, so...

Whatevs, clearly you know everything there is to know about NHL SPC's
- 1970vintage

Do I need to know everything to know Lu's contract is awful?

Don't know if you saw my reply on the Lightning thread from yesterday (I think), but this is your best avatar yet.
- Michael_Stuart

Is it too colorful for my grumpy rep tho?

I know what your point was. He's not getting claimed. He passes through waivers then gets bought out and chooses where he goes. That's his plan.

The point is...no one has been willing to trade for him.
- djamon

The comment was made on the basis of someone else's comment, which was asking in the situation of there being trade offers for Luongo (so teams will trade for him) why would he not just veto them all? That is the answer. Cause he then loses all control over where he goes.

This is a hypothetical.

Do I need to know everything to know Lu's contract is awful?
- djamon

Let's look at it from the other side. It's a great contract, and Pietrangelo for Luongo is the 7th best offer on the table.

Do I need to know everything to know Lu's contract is awful?
- djamon

No, but you clearly know what's in the mind of every GM in the league and how it relates to this contract.

Yes, his contract (under the current CBA conditions, is awful). But a team with a high payroll could easily absorb this with little risk as most of the cap savings have been absorbed by Vancouver already.

The comment was made on the basis of someone else's comment, which was asking in the situation of there being trade offers for Luongo (so teams will trade for him) why would he not just veto them all? That is the answer. Cause he then loses all control over where he goes.

This is a hypothetical.
- KB3Point0

Fair enough. It is hugely hypothetical.