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KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 28 @ 3:12 PM ET
No one is claiming him off waivers.
- cap1681


That isn't the rumour on the street.
Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jun 28 @ 3:14 PM ET
again, i hate the sens. You can't argue that anderson hasn't accomplished more than schneider. I playoff series win - 1 playoff win in 10 games. That ends it. Remember it was bobby lou who took you guys to the finals.
- clark_griswold


If Anderson didn't get injured, he could have very well walked away with the vezina this year.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 28 @ 3:15 PM ET
again, i hate the sens. You can't argue that anderson hasn't accomplished more than schneider. I playoff series win - 1 playoff win in 10 games. That ends it. Remember it was bobby lou who took you guys to the finals.
- clark_griswold


Schnieder is a good goalie
Anderson has proven more
You are right
Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jun 28 @ 3:15 PM ET
That isn't the rumour on the street.
- KB3Point0


Why try to claim him off waivers when you could offer a 7th round pick and secure him? He'll either be traded for next to nothing or bought out.

1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 28 @ 3:16 PM ET
again, i hate the sens. You can't argue that anderson hasn't accomplished more than schneider. I playoff series win - 1 playoff win in 10 games. That ends it. Remember it was bobby lou who took you guys to the finals.
- clark_griswold


Look Clarky, I don't care whether you like Schneider or not, but one playoff series win doesn't prove anything. Schneider stood on his head against LA but wasn't rewarded with wins because his team only scored 2 goals in 3 games. He didn't look good in his two appearances this year because he was injured down the stretch, so much so that he didn't even dress for games 1 or 2.

Again, I am not suggesting that Schneider has "proved" anything, but neither have most of the guys on your "I'd take them over Schneider any day" list.
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Jun 28 @ 3:16 PM ET
And you know this how?

You don't think the Flyers, who have no starting goalie wouldn't pick him up for free?

- 1970vintage


It's not free...you assume the contract. It's the contract ruining his value. You understand that, right?
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 28 @ 3:17 PM ET
nobody walks out of here with the twins except for us to quote the great brian burke.

i think the canucks got eriksson as insurance in case schneider is the guy who gets traded. schneider, edler, 1st will go to Colorado. too bad o'brien got dealt or he'd be the centerpiece coming back.

reimer will get traded to the flames. he's some pissed and i don't blame him. i'd rather have reimer than bernier based on their body of work but if bernier turns into their next cujo, the province will go wild.

- therealagent


You've got to be joking, right?

Only deal I'd make with SOB as the centrepiece would see the Canucks shipping out a late round pick. The guy is an average 5/6 D.

No way it would involve anything of value in return...
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 28 @ 3:17 PM ET
If Anderson didn't get injured, he could have very well walked away with the vezina this year.
- Canuckleafer


If Schneider didn't get hurt he could have backstopped the Canucks to the cup this year...
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 28 @ 3:18 PM ET
Look Clarky, I don't care whether you like Schneider or not, but one playoff series win doesn't prove anything. Schneider stood on his head against LA but wasn't rewarded with wins because his team only scored 2 goals in 3 games. He didn't look good in his two appearances this year because he was injured down the stretch, so much so that he didn't even dress for games 1 or 2.

Again, I am not suggesting that Schneider has "proved" anything, but neither have most of the guys on your "I'd take them over Schneider any day" list.

- 1970vintage


Anderson played better against the Habs the Cory did against kings
This isn't a slight on Cory but praise for how good anderson was
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Jun 28 @ 3:19 PM ET
Except then, because he only has a NTC and not a NMC the Canucks can put him on waivers and he has absolutely zero control over where he ends up.

Thanks for the no-brainer though.

- KB3Point0


No one is claiming him on waivers...jeez. You can't be serious here.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 28 @ 3:19 PM ET
If Schneider didn't get hurt he could have backstopped the Canucks to the cup this year...
- 1970vintage


Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jun 28 @ 3:19 PM ET
If Schneider didn't get hurt he could have backstopped the Canucks to the cup this year...
- 1970vintage


Not unless he was given a shot to score some goals as well. This years team wouldn't have won with Anderson and Schneider in net.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 28 @ 3:20 PM ET
You've got to be joking, right?

Only deal I'd make with SOB as the centrepiece would see the Canucks shipping out a late round pick. The guy is an average 5/6 D.

No way it would involve anything of value in return...

- Fosco


Agreed
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jun 28 @ 3:21 PM ET
Look Clarky, I don't care whether you like Schneider or not, but one playoff series win doesn't prove anything. Schneider stood on his head against LA but wasn't rewarded with wins because his team only scored 2 goals in 3 games. He didn't look good in his two appearances this year because he was injured down the stretch, so much so that he didn't even dress for games 1 or 2.

Again, I am not suggesting that Schneider has "proved" anything, but neither have most of the guys on your "I'd take them over Schneider any day" list.

- 1970vintage


This i can live with. What i can't live with is every other fan in here simply saying 'schneider is only good, not great '...or 'if you don't know why he's not amazing you're an idiot'...

therealagent
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 01.15.2012

Jun 28 @ 3:22 PM ET
You've got to be joking, right?

Only deal I'd make with SOB as the centrepiece would see the Canucks shipping out a late round pick. The guy is an average 5/6 D.

No way it would involve anything of value in return...

- Fosco


obviously.
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jun 28 @ 3:22 PM ET
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426533

Apparently Mason is the new man in Philly. I guess the GM doesn't want a good goalie backstopping this team.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 28 @ 3:22 PM ET
live in the now. nobody but NJ wants Marty anymore. yes he's a HOF'er but that means nothing for 2013/2014.

if Lu is bought out, he'll be signed without question. they question is whether or not Gillis will wait too long. he has lead time to talk to UFAs before the 5th to assess interest but the biggest opportunity is on draft day.

if the Sedins, in a sign and trade, with schneider can get you Colorado's 1st, Duchense and Johnson does Gillis have a left testy to do it?

Gillis can then find his right testy and move kesler and their 1st to florida for the 2nd.

Canucks gut the core offensively and restock it with Duchense, McKinnon and Drouin and in 3 years, they're better than what they gave up.

- therealagent


(frank), I hope not.

You have to be joking with these offers...

EDIT: it seems that you are joking. Disregard my last two posts.

Hard to tell—they're not far off from what a few Canucks fans have seriously proposed.
I-own_da-Northwest
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cariboo, BC
Joined: 08.08.2009

Jun 28 @ 3:23 PM ET
No one is claiming him on waivers...jeez. You can't be serious here.
- djamon

He won't make it to waivers there will be at least 7 offers that the Canucks will probably take with 3-8 more offered that gillis will roll his eyes at. Are you still bitter that Gillis didn't take Bozak, Kadri and the first at last years draft?...quit living in the past man. Hindsight is 20-20
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 28 @ 3:23 PM ET
It's not free...you assume the contract. It's the contract ruining his value. You understand that, right?
- djamon



Yes, you still have to pay him, but the price to acquire him is free, meaning, you don't have to give up anything to get him.
clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: JVR_42_PK81
Joined: 01.10.2013

Jun 28 @ 3:23 PM ET
it seems every other fan who is not a canucks fan in here agrees with me, that scheider is good, has the tools, but isn't as great as canucks fan say he is. Very similar to only canucks fans thinking Lou will bring back anything. I'm just saying. I tend to listen to other teams fans over blind leafs fans. It's kind of like if everyone tells you that you are fat, you are probably fat.
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jun 28 @ 3:24 PM ET
No one is claiming him off waivers.
- cap1681

Perfect - Utica Comets should easily win the championship then.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 28 @ 3:24 PM ET
no, his playoff SERIES WIN when he stood on his head proved something. Disagree?
- clark_griswold


You are an example of why people like Burke think analytics are overrated in hockey. You pick and choose the stats that work well for your specific argument and just ignore those that don't. You are unable, or more likely unwilling as it would contradict your argument, to put those stats into any form of context.

You've also done about as well as Burke in assessing goalies so far.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 28 @ 3:25 PM ET
Not unless he was given a shot to score some goals as well. This years team wouldn't have won with Anderson and Schneider in net.
- Canuckleafer


My point is only that you are talking about "what if's"

Anderson is a fine goalie, he played lights out last year, and has had very good stretches in other years as well, but lets be real here, until he does it consistently he hasn't proved anything.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 28 @ 3:26 PM ET
If Anderson didn't get injured, he could have very well walked away with the vezina this year.
- Canuckleafer


If Schneider didn't get injured he could very well have walked away with the Conn Smythe this year!
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 28 @ 3:26 PM ET
This i can live with. What i can't live with is every other fan in here simply saying 'schneider is only good, not great '...or 'if you don't know why he's not amazing you're an idiot'...
- clark_griswold


Yeah, there is a whole lot of assclown going on here today
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