LeftCoaster
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Location: Shark City, CA Joined: 07.03.2009
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Gillis is going to surprise a lot of people this weekend. I know a few people inside the Canucks organization and they are all saying something big is going down at the draft. Lets just say the Canucks will be picking in the top 10 at the draft. I've already said too much. - hankthetank
You'd better be right or I'm comin after you!! ..... |
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clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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No it isn't. Schneider's been fantastic in net for the Canucks for 3 straight years now. His numbers have been stead and outstanding. Before that he was great in the AHL (not good, he was great). He has also played very well in the playoffs when healthy.
You thinking that Reimer of Bernier are as good as Schneider has shown to be thus far is homerism. - KB3Point0
ahl means nothing. Look at the numbers, almost identical. I don't see what i'm missing, it's not like a fowrard where you can argue 'yeah they had the same amount of points but one guy hits, takes key faceoffs and blocks shots while the other doesn't'. Goalies job is to stop the biscuit; i am failing to see why scheider is heads and shoulders above reimer when their numbers are identical and neither has achieved one single thing so far. |
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clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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No it isn't. Schneider's been fantastic in net for the Canucks for 3 straight years now. His numbers have been stead and outstanding. Before that he was great in the AHL (not good, he was great). He has also played very well in the playoffs when healthy.
You thinking that Reimer of Bernier are as good as Schneider has shown to be thus far is homerism. - KB3Point0
he has not played more than 33 games in any of the last 3 years. Again, i must be missing something. |
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hankthetank
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: I went to school for journalism. Our job was to be a mirror. We were to be the watchdog for society. Joined: 07.03.2007
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yeah, reimer's whopping 1.8 million dollar salary is kiling us. And bernier's contract is going to ruin us. How about you answer the question you so boldly hinted at - why schneider is MUCH better than reimer? - clark_griswold
Reimer: 53 wins. 10 shutouts. 2.71 GAA. .915 Save %.
Schneider: 84 wins. 12 shutouts. 2.28 GAA. .921 Save %.
Yes. VERY similar stats, indeed.
Given that Reimer and Schneider are equal, I guess this is why Nonis saw the need to bring in Bernier. Bernier should be a nice backup for Reimer. |
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clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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It could very well turn out to be another S**T Show. - VanHockeyGuy
except combined reimer and bernier don't even make as much as schneider. Let alone that anchor contract luongo has. We'll be just fine with 2 young goalies making 3.3 million combined, if we don't end up moving one. |
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he has not played more than 33 games in any of the last 3 years. Again, i must be missing something. - clark_griswold
Look at his point production. That's the difference. It's hard to find such a well rounded goalie these days. Schneider is the complete package. |
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djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Victoria, BC Joined: 05.27.2013
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No it isn't. Schneider's been fantastic in net for the Canucks for 3 straight years now. His numbers have been stead and outstanding. Before that he was great in the AHL (not good, he was great). He has also played very well in the playoffs when healthy.
You thinking that Reimer of Bernier are as good as Schneider has shown to be thus far is homerism. - KB3Point0
Schneider's been very good his whole career...there's no doubt about that.
But Reimer's save %, on a much poorer team than Vancouver, is within .012% of Schneider's. That's pretty comparable. His only real hiccup came when he was battling back from a concussion 2 years ago.
I think most would agree that Schneider has been better to this point, but I really don't think it's been a huge difference. And Schneider is 2 years further along his development. |
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Loungo will not be placed on waivers there are 15-20 teams preparing solid offers for him as we speak. He is the second best active goalie behind brodeur according to www.google.com Gillis will have his pick at some great offers, hopefully he chooses one that is fair for the other team as well. - I-own_da-Northwest
live in the now. nobody but NJ wants Marty anymore. yes he's a HOF'er but that means nothing for 2013/2014.
if Lu is bought out, he'll be signed without question. they question is whether or not Gillis will wait too long. he has lead time to talk to UFAs before the 5th to assess interest but the biggest opportunity is on draft day.
if the Sedins, in a sign and trade, with schneider can get you Colorado's 1st, Duchense and Johnson does Gillis have a left testy to do it?
Gillis can then find his right testy and move kesler and their 1st to florida for the 2nd.
Canucks gut the core offensively and restock it with Duchense, McKinnon and Drouin and in 3 years, they're better than what they gave up.
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clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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Reimer: 53 wins. 10 shutouts. 2.71 GAA. .915 Save %.
Schneider: 84 wins. 12 shutouts. 2.28 GAA. .921 Save %.
Yes. VERY similar stats, indeed.
Given that Reimer and Schneider are equal, I guess this is why Nonis saw the need to bring in Bernier. Bernier should be a nice backup for Reimer. - hankthetank
84 wins in the ahl. 98 games 55 wins in the nhl.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=4785 |
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KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver Joined: 06.14.2012
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stats are very similar , except that schneider has ONE win in 10 playoff games...i digress though, he is obviously better because he was projected to be better - clark_griswold
Holy crap. You seriously believe that???
Career NHL Stats:
Schneider
98 GP, 55-26-8-9, .927 SV%, 2.20 GAA
Reimer
104 GP, 53-32-14-10, .915 SV%, 2.71 GAA
Bernier
62 GP, 29-20-6-6, .912 SV%, 2.36 GAA
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KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver Joined: 06.14.2012
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he has not played more than 33 games in any of the last 3 years. Again, i must be missing something. - clark_griswold
Yes, you are missing a lot. |
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clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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Schneider's been very good his whole career...there's no doubt about that.
But Reimer's save %, on a much poorer team than Vancouver, is within .012% of Schneider's. That's pretty comparable. His only real hiccup came when he was battling back from a concussion 2 years ago.
I think most would agree that Schneider has been better to this point, but I really don't think it's been a huge difference. And Schneider is 2 years further along his development. - djamon
and makes more than 2 million more |
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clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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Holy crap. You seriously believe that???
Career NHL Stats:
Schneider
98 GP, 55-26-8-9, .927 SV%, 2.20 GAA
Reimer
104 GP, 53-32-14-10, .915 SV%, 2.71 GAA
Bernier
62 GP, 29-20-6-6, .912 SV%, 2.36 GAA
- KB3Point0
save % a whopping .12 higher for scheider. HOLY. CRAP. and the GAA is team based when the leafs were awful. Wins look similar to me. |
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KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver Joined: 06.14.2012
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i'm not a huge reimer fan. Love his character and attitude but i know he has his shortcomings. But he has played more NHL games than schneider, very similar stats (and van is / was a much better team) and schneider was awful in the playoffs this year (injured or not). I fail to see what i'm missing - clark_griswold
That's because the Leafs wouldn't know a good goalie if he cross checked them in the face. |
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clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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Yes, you are missing a lot. - KB3Point0
well, you just pointed out so much for me, i am mistaken. |
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KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver Joined: 06.14.2012
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Schneider's been very good his whole career...there's no doubt about that.
But Reimer's save %, on a much poorer team than Vancouver, is within .012% of Schneider's. That's pretty comparable. His only real hiccup came when he was battling back from a concussion 2 years ago.
I think most would agree that Schneider has been better to this point, but I really don't think it's been a huge difference. And Schneider is 2 years further along his development. - djamon
No, Reimer's save % is average. Cory's is exceptional. That's the difference between good and great. |
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KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver Joined: 06.14.2012
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Schneider's been very good his whole career...there's no doubt about that.
But Reimer's save %, on a much poorer team than Vancouver, is within .012% of Schneider's. That's pretty comparable. His only real hiccup came when he was battling back from a concussion 2 years ago.
I think most would agree that Schneider has been better to this point, but I really don't think it's been a huge difference. And Schneider is 2 years further along his development. - djamon
Well I'm glad at least one Leafs fan on this Canucks blog has some common sense! |
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Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Why not trade Reimer for a nice package of prospects and picks then? Looks like the Leafs are going to be stuck with the same problem Gillis has. 2 great goalies. Nice move, Nonis! - hankthetank
Not even close to the problem that Gillis created for himself but if it makes you feel better, I am happy for you.
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KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver Joined: 06.14.2012
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live in the now. nobody but NJ wants Marty anymore. yes he's a HOF'er but that means nothing for 2013/2014.
if Lu is bought out, he'll be signed without question. they question is whether or not Gillis will wait too long. he has lead time to talk to UFAs before the 5th to assess interest but the biggest opportunity is on draft day.
if the Sedins, in a sign and trade, with schneider can get you Colorado's 1st, Duchense and Johnson does Gillis have a left testy to do it?
Gillis can then find his right testy and move kesler and their 1st to florida for the 2nd.
Canucks gut the core offensively and restock it with Duchense, McKinnon and Drouin and in 3 years, they're better than what they gave up. - therealagent
Why would Colorado make that trade??? |
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clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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I'm not here to start sh*t. It just seems you guys get real defensive about your goalies. I admit reimer isn't the best in the league. Far from it. Bernier is a wild card. But you guys claiming schneider is a top notch goalie seems puzzling. Just as puzzling as Luongo is going to fetch a monster return when everyone else laughs. But if it helps you sleep at night, sure keep thinking schneider is the cat's meow. I think he is an above average goalie, probably around 14th best in the league. |
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KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver Joined: 06.14.2012
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and makes more than 2 million more - clark_griswold
We aren't talking salary. We're talking quality of goalie. |
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clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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Well I'm glad at least one Leafs fan on this Canucks blog has some common sense! - KB3Point0
actually i said schneider is a bit better, but not to the point where you laugh or make it seem obvious. |
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clark_griswold
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: JVR_42_PK81 Joined: 01.10.2013
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No, Reimer's save % is average. Cory's is exceptional. That's the difference between good and great. - KB3Point0
.12 is that much of a difference? REALLY? |
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KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver Joined: 06.14.2012
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save % a whopping .12 higher for scheider. HOLY. CRAP. and the GAA is team based when the leafs were awful. Wins look similar to me. - clark_griswold
The difference in his save % is big over almost 100 games. Reimer's is good. Schneider's is great. That difference is huge. If you don't know that then you're just a clueless homer.
Wins are close. Winning % is much higher for Schneider. |
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imsorry66
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Bruins all huddled around the Eastern Conference Trophy. What a bunch of losers. Joined: 02.16.2007
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To Van- Letang
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To Pits- Edler and Lack
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