dadeadhead
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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I went back and watched the Beyond Blue & Golds...
man I really like a lot of our players...
I didn't remember that Kaleta did the rookie SEALs training.. that was completely voluntary of him. Hodgson and Foligno were borderline.
Watching the blurps about Ott and Weber too... I don't want to see them guys go.
I found it interesting that Darcy mentioned that Grigo was their #1 target for the draft last season and that he was offered 5th overall and 35th for our 12th and 21st overall. Who was 5th overall last year? - JVince11
Morgan Rielly was at 5 and Matt Finn was at 35. |
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leonwaldo420
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Location: Never In Canada Joined: 06.30.2008
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RynoBull
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Location: BFLO Joined: 02.13.2007
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Define long term? More than 3 years is long term in my eyes and if he gets a 4 year 16 million deal it seems like too much in my eyes. However it could turn out to be a great deal. I just don't see him producing again like he did this year without Vanek and Pommer - Stripes77
The good news is he will still have Vanek to dish the puck to. Anything between 3 and 4 would be fine. If his production keep treding northward, it will be a steal of a contract. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Eventually, he will have guys of their level on his wing again. Think about Horton and Armia in 2 yrs. - benny948
Horton is not and will never be a Vanek like producer. Armia maybe be a Pommer type though |
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RynoBull
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Location: BFLO Joined: 02.13.2007
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He was on pace for like 65 points this past season. He did benefit from playing with Pommer for half the year and Vanek for the first 11 games.. then Vanek went MIA...
I say that Hodgson needs a bridge deal of like 3.5M for 3 years. - JVince11
Hodgson vanished without Vanek on his wing. Vanek vanished without Hodgie on his wing. You can thank Lindy for that |
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JVince11
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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Morgan Rielly was at 5 and Matt Finn was at 35. - dadeadhead
Reilly.. isn't he TML?
So we had a proposed trade offer from Burke? |
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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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The good news is he will still have Vanek to dish the puck to. Anything between 3 and 4 would be fine. If his production keep treding northward, it will be a steal of a contract. - RynoBull
In NHL 13...
dat boy gone come October! |
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You don't take a dman at 8th overall... and even if we did... I'd take Risto over Nurse. - JVince11
Plenty of good defensemen are taken in the top 8. I could listen to the Ristolinen over Nurse idea, but I would be ok with either assuming Monahan and Lindholm are both off the board. |
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dadeadhead
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Reilly.. isn't he TML?
So we had a proposed trade offer from Burke? - JVince11
I guess so.
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dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Plenty of good defensemen are taken in the top 8. I could listen to the Ristolinen over Nurse idea, but I would be ok with either assuming Monahan and Lindholm are both off the board. - Rally_Shots
If that is who they want IMO you could move back with Dallas, get 10, 29, and draft him there. |
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truthbluth
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Buffalo, NY Joined: 11.24.2006
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not at 8th overall...
that is bad news written all over it. - JVince11
Totally disagree. He's the kind of guy that you can build a Defense around. Tough, territorial, hard working and smart. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Hodgson vanished without Vanek on his wing. Vanek vanished without Hodgie on his wing. You can thank Lindy for that - RynoBull
How does Lindy get the blame for that? Injuries got the blame for that. Then Rolston shuffled lines around |
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I guess so. - dadeadhead
Would have had the 5, 35, 42, 44 instead of 12, 14, 44
Probably would have went with Grigorenko at 5 anyway. Then still got McCabe, and we dont really know who was on the Sabres board, but I'd hope Frk wouldve been one of them. |
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JVince11
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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Hodgson vanished without Vanek on his wing. Vanek vanished without Hodgie on his wing. You can thank Lindy for that - RynoBull
Vanek had 27 points in 21 games with Hodge to begin the year.
Hodge had 17 points in that 21 games.
Vanek missed 2 games.
Hodge had 2 points in those 2 games.
Vanek returns for 8 games and has 6 points
Hodge in those 8 games has 9 points.
Vanek misses 1 game.
Hodge has 3 points in that game.
Vanek misses 6 games.
Hodge has 2 points in those 6 games.
In the final 9 games together..
Vanek has 8 points.
Hodge has 4 points.
Hodge scored 7 points in 10 games without Vanek. (.7 PPG)
Hodge scored 29 points in 38 games with Vanek. (.763 PPG)
I don't think that is enough of a difference to say that he "disappeared" without Vanek on his wing..
Hodge is a f'n boss for years to come. |
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Stripes77
Referee Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Would have had the 5, 35, 42, 44 instead of 12, 14, 44
Probably would have went with Grigorenko at 5 anyway. Then still got McCabe, and we dont really know who was on the Sabres board, but I'd hope Frk wouldve been one of them. - theblueandgold
No Girgenson then. He is going to play a big part of if that draft was successful or not |
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dadeadhead
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Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY Joined: 07.16.2006
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Would have had the 5, 35, 42, 44 instead of 12, 14, 44
Probably would have went with Grigorenko at 5 anyway. Then still got McCabe, and we dont really know who was on the Sabres board, but I'd hope Frk wouldve been one of them. - theblueandgold
Grigs, Finn, McCabe, Frk would be my guess. |
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Stripes77
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Location: Where ever Matt Ellis allows me to be, NY Joined: 07.30.2012
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Vanek had 27 points in 20 games with Hodge to begin the year.
Hodge had 17 points in that 20 games.
Vanek missed 2 games.
Hodge had 2 points in those 2 games.
Vanek returns for 9 games and has 6 points
Hodge in those 9 games has 9 points.
Vanek misses 6 games.
Hodge has 2 points in those 6 games.
In the final 9 games together..
Vanek has 8 points.
Hodge has 4 points.
Hodge scored 13 points in 17 games without Vanek. (.764 PPG)
Hodge scored 30 points in 37 games with Vanek. (.810 PPG)
I don't think Hodge had THAT big of a difference to say that he "disappeared without Vanek"
Hodge is a f'n boss for years to come. - JVince11
It's a good breakdown. But I wouldn't call him a boss till he becomes at least so so in his own zone. I'd take that of the god awful he is now
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Grigs, Finn, McCabe, Frk would be my guess. - dadeadhead
So pretty much, Finn and frk or girgensons |
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sambarugh
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Location: Meszároš has sick trade value, NY Joined: 01.14.2008
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Um, no.
Metal us what you listen to when you're 15.
Jam bands = music
Metal = noise - Pairo11
Metal has no age barriers. It's part of who I am and always will be.
Jam bands are just something I will never understand. Does nothing for me.
All good of course - different strokes for different folks. |
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SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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Metal has no age barriers. It's part of who I am and always will be.
Jam bands are just something I will never understand. Does nothing for me.
All good of course - different strokes for different folks. - sambarugh
MORE METAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BFLO Joined: 02.13.2007
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Vanek had 27 points in 20 games with Hodge to begin the year.
Hodge had 17 points in that 20 games.
Vanek missed 2 games.
Hodge had 2 points in those 2 games.
Vanek returns for 9 games and has 6 points
Hodge in those 9 games has 9 points.
Vanek misses 6 games.
Hodge has 2 points in those 6 games.
In the final 9 games together..
Vanek has 8 points.
Hodge has 4 points.
Hodge scored 13 points in 10 games without Vanek. (1.3 PPG)
Hodge scored 30 points in 38 games with Vanek. (.789 PPG)
Hodge didn't miss Vanek at all son...
Hodge is a f'n boss for years to come. - JVince11
That should be enough data for people to stop talking about moving Hodgson. Thanks.
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JVince11
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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It's a good breakdown. But I wouldn't call him a boss till he becomes at least so so in his own zone. I'd take that of the god awful he is now - Stripes77
I actually had missed something... and went back and changed it...
Hodge was .7 PPG without Vanek and .763 PPG with Vanek. |
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JVince11
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Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK Joined: 07.13.2011
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That should be enough data for people to stop talking about moving Hodgson. Thanks. - RynoBull
But it is even more ammunition to say that moving Vanek wouldn't effect Hodgson.
he played just fine without him and his soft-a$$ 7.1M cap hit. |
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SABRES 89
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Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y. Joined: 02.17.2007
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That should be enough data for people to stop talking about moving Hodgson. Thanks. - RynoBull
Mistake if they trade Vanek. |
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RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BFLO Joined: 02.13.2007
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I actually had missed something... and went back and changed it...
Hodge was .7 PPG without Vanek and .763 PPG with Vanek. - JVince11
Same comment applies:
That should be enough data for people to stop talking about moving Hodgson. Thanks.
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