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Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 28 @ 10:56 AM ET
Sounds like another great blog from Hackenstein. I refuse to read it because I don't want to start my vacation with high blood pressure
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jun 28 @ 10:57 AM ET
Thats a lot of Beef! Wouldnt hurt the Isles to get bigger and stronger.

I do like,
Nikita Zadorov
Ht/Wt:6' 5"/230 lbs
Position:D
Team: London (OHL) but I think we'd have to move up to get him

- SCLI



I like Zadorov also, but don't think he will be there, and the F's from 15 on are all very good, just depends on who fits Isles system...

but I do prefer the BEEF with the kids only being 18yrs old
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

Jun 28 @ 10:59 AM ET
disagree, the prospects are starting to overflow and there soon wont be enough spots for all these guys...get the best player available or trade the pick for an established NHLer.

dee, "CHOSING"?!?!?!

- LetsGoIsles


Also these 2 kids that I like would not be ready until 3-5yrs down the line, by then Moulson, KO, Bailey, Grabs, Frans, might not be around...
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:02 AM ET
yes, but (hopefully) those guys will be in the nhl (on the isles) for more time than it takes to develop a prospect
- LetsGoIsles


Exactly! Somewhere along the line there will be a glut of prospects ready to make the jump. One two or three may have to go eventually. Why not get value while we can. Its the GM's job to figure who goes who stays and when we can get optimum value.

Not every one of our top Prospect will pan out. Thats also the job of the GM to figure which ones will develop and which ones may not. The long shots should be traded before anyone else realizes they wont reach potential.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:03 AM ET
Sounds like another great blog from Hackenstein. I refuse to read it because I don't want to start my vacation with high blood pressure
- Vukota


Hey Mick, how can you spend hours here on HB and not have High Blood Pressure????
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:08 AM ET
OK were on the same page so lets wait and see what Sunday brings. This should be the yr that we use our excess Blue Chip prospects and our very valuable #15 to cash in on a very good young vet.

No excuses anymore.


- SCLI



No.. no it shouldn't.

XxNYIxX
Spartiarti
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 09.04.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:16 AM ET
I feel like need a player like Lucic or Kassian. does anyone in the draft fit the bill? And to be clear, Im looking for a goon. Lucic and Kassian are very talented offensively.

Isles need a power foward that plays with chip on his shoulder.
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:17 AM ET
No.. no it shouldn't.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


Just a difference of opinion. You say toe ma toe, I say toe maa toe.

None of us are experts. You dont mind waiting 8, 9, 10 yrs or more. Some of us are ready to make a splash now. We've been patient.

The rebuild must reach its peak eventually. Why not now?
brodydog29
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 09.24.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:17 AM ET
yes, but (hopefully) those guys will be in the nhl (on the isles) for more time than it takes to develop a prospect
- LetsGoIsles

hahaha, true.

Snow does have to do something -
NHL roster as is -

Moulson - JT - ?
Bailey* - Nielsen - Okposo
Grabner - ? - Martin
McDonald - Cizikas - Boulton

Hamonic* - MacDonald
Viz - Strait
Donovan? - Carkner

?
Poulin

Not in NHL YET -

W - Nino, Persson, Lee, Kabonov

C - Strome, Nelson, Sundstrom

D - DeHaan, Ness, Reinhart, Pedan, Mayfield, Finley

G - Nilsson, Koskinen

Not signed - Hamonic, Bailey, Hickey, Nabokov, Martinek, Joensuu, Reasoner (thank God), Boyes (sorry Kencan)

Hope he finds a room with no doors and windows - DP

I'm sure I'm missing players but that's a good number of players in the system that are coming to the big boy club within the next 1-3 years. Snow has said he has pieces to trade now, does he trade NHL players or some of those younger pieces...
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:20 AM ET
Just a difference of opinion. You say toe ma toe, I say toe maa toe.

None of us are experts. You dont mind waiting 8, 9, 10 yrs or more. Some of us are ready to make a splash now. We've been patient.

The rebuild must reach its peak eventually. Why not now?

- SCLI



i am
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:22 AM ET
hahaha, true.

Snow does have to do something -
NHL roster as is -

Moulson - JT - ?
Bailey* - Nielsen - Okposo
Grabner - ? - Martin
McDonald - Cizikas - Boulton

Hamonic* - MacDonald
Viz - Strait
Donovan? - Carkner

?
Poulin

Not in NHL YET -

W - Nino, Persson, Lee, Kabonov

C - Strome, Nelson, Sundstrom

D - DeHaan, Ness, Reinhart, Pedan, Mayfield, Finley

G - Nilsson, Koskinen

Not signed - Hamonic, Bailey, Hickey, Nabokov, Martinek, Joensuu, Reasoner (thank God), Boyes (sorry Kencan)

Hope he finds a room with no doors and windows - DP

I'm sure I'm missing players but that's a good number of players in the system that are coming to the big boy club within the next 1-3 years. Snow has said he has pieces to trade now, does he trade NHL players or some of those younger pieces...

- brodydog29


Despite the limited success the Nielsen line has had. I'd still rather he be centering the 3rd line and we have someone else as our #2 center.

For that matter I'd like that entire 2nd line to become our 3rd line!
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:25 AM ET
I like Zadorov also, but don't think he will be there, and the F's from 15 on are all very good, just depends on who fits Isles system...

but I do prefer the BEEF with the kids only being 18yrs old

- Ur Not Me



In order for Zadorov to be there, a whole lot of teams between 8-15 would have had to hire clones of Mike Milbury as their GM. I'll take either Zykov or Morin, myself. We have lots of small and fast. We need large and angry.

As for the goalies...he has to do something....and by something, I mean a solid, veteran goaltender, not Al Montoya. If Snow doesn't understand that MOST of the reason our team fell short of at least having a shot at the playoffs for the last two seasons prior to this one concerned there having been FAR too many games played by sh*t goaltenders, then he DOES need to be fired, pretty much immediately. Bad defense hurts, and so does lack of offense, but if your goaltender is cr*p, you are f***ed, no matter what the 18 guys without the pads on are doing.
brodydog29
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 09.24.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:27 AM ET
Despite the limited success the Nielsen line has had. I'd still rather he be centering the 3rd line and we have someone else as our #2 center.

For that matter I'd like that entire 2nd line to become our 3rd line!

- SCLI

As would I. But, with the current NHL roster, that's the teams best. Would love Strome, Nelson and Nino to be a future 2nd line but that's years away to put 3 kids together on a top 6 line.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:27 AM ET
Despite the limited success the Nielsen line has had. I'd still rather he be centering the 3rd line and we have someone else as our #2 center.

For that matter I'd like that entire 2nd line to become our 3rd line!

- SCLI



It should be our third line. We just don't have a second line until the likes of Strome and Niederreiter are truly ready. Once that happens, if these guys are still around, they'll be one of the best third lines in the league, in my opinion.
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:34 AM ET
Despite the limited success the Nielsen line has had. I'd still rather he be centering the 3rd line and we have someone else as our #2 center.

For that matter I'd like that entire 2nd line to become our 3rd line!

- SCLI



ya...i want neilsen on the 3rd line...id love the isles to sign vincent lecavalier to be the 2C.. then mix and match bailey, grabner, ko, nino, nelson, moulson

and have the macdonald cizikas, martin on the 4th line....
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:37 AM ET
Despite the limited success the Nielsen line has had. I'd still rather he be centering the 3rd line and we have someone else as our #2 center.

For that matter I'd like that entire 2nd line to become our 3rd line!

- SCLI



Vinny!!!
SCLI
New York Islanders
Location: Hockey Hotbed of the South!, SC
Joined: 09.17.2007

Jun 28 @ 11:37 AM ET
As would I. But, with the current NHL roster, that's the teams best. Would love Strome, Nelson and Nino to be a future 2nd line but that's years away to put 3 kids together on a top 6 line.
- brodydog29


brody And dcb1,

Agreed. We are missing a complete 2nd line and a wing for JT along with a goalie and a "D" man.

Without a couple of moves. It will be rough to make the PO's despite what others are saying.
brodydog29
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 09.24.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:38 AM ET
ya...i want neilsen on the 3rd line...id love the isles to sign vincent lecavalier to be the 2C.. the mix and match bailey, grabner, ko, nino, nelson, moulson

and have the macdonald cizikas, martin on the 4th line....

- LetsGoIsles


If they can get Lecavalier for a 1 year deal then yes but I'm guessing all of the major market teams will bid against each other and the Isles will be out by the 1st day.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
I mean come on is this really a tough decision???
- kasperrko

It is if they need his salary to reach the floor.
mighty13duck
New York Islanders
Location: New Building. New Owner. New coach Nassau County, NY
Joined: 01.26.2009

Jun 28 @ 11:40 AM ET
brody And dcb1,

Agreed. We are missing a complete 2nd line and a wing for JT along with a goalie and a "D" man.

Without a couple of moves. It will be rough to make the PO's despite what others are saying.

- SCLI

If we have no goalie; or pick up a Biron or Montoya to play goal with Poulin, we will not make the playoffs. I know everyone is saying Garth will pick up a goalie, but as of now I see no indictation of this. Its a big problem and he should be aggressive right now trying to pick one up.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:43 AM ET
Vinny!!!
- jimmc7722



Ribeiro????
brodydog29
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 09.24.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:45 AM ET
Ribeiro????
- jimmc7722

Wow! There's a name that hasn't been thrown around much with the Isles.
shinkdew
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.04.2006

Jun 28 @ 11:47 AM ET
Drafting a goalie with our first round pick would be a mistake. However, I wouldn't be opposed to using one of our 4th round picks on a goaltending prospect. I'm not sure if she knows there are other goaltending prospects in this draft and some rankings don't even have Fucale number 1 among goalies, but rather Tristian Jarry.

As for our goalies in our system now, I like Nilsson, Poulin, Koskinen in that order. I rank Koskinen last solely because I have not heard much on him lately. I know he was a former 2nd round pick, but that was 4(?) years ago, but it doesn't seem he has progressed much. Have I missed something on him?

- engrassias2


Is this the kid that's going to Notre Dame? I read about a kid who I think was 6'5" and going to ND, I can't remember his name. He's expected to be a later round pick, but I remember thinking this is the kind of goalie the Islanders would draft. It would give them four years for the kid to develop in college before they needed to make a decision on him.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 28 @ 11:47 AM ET
i am
- LetsGoIsles

This only confirms you're nuts.
jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 28 @ 11:48 AM ET
Wow! There's a name that hasn't been thrown around much with the Isles.
- brodydog29



How about Riberio and Horton.... add Mike Smith in, and call it a day....
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