Phaneuf will be run out of town and no one will cry about it.. The sooner you come to terms with it the sooner we can move on to something else.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

The only people crying will be the people who realize it was a mistake getting rid of him, when they see Franson getting eaten alive by top players.




This team without Phaneuf doesnt make the playoffs.

Maybe he should watch Kadri hit Chara.
- aminnes

I think he should. Like i said, he needs lessons in his leadership. Tell Wendel to set him straight and give him captain pointers.

17th last year. Not great, but not terrible, especially when he's helping us get to 5th best in goals for.
- Leeman4Gilmour

Phaneuf has been around longer then 1 season. Did you forget to bring the other years up or is it such an embarassment for you to even mention that you purposely left them out to further your argument.

Agreed. Hefty price tag but I honestly think he's the type of player that might flourish here. He seemed to lose a little bit of mojo when Duchene came on the scene, for some reason. A change of scenery might do him really well.
- Phenom

I think it's a bad idea.. Bozak is a homo but he's nearly as good as Stastny. If the Leafs are going to upgrade then they should really upgrade.

The Oilers will trade Sam Gagner for him, but only if Pittsburgh throws someone else in. Gagner is an all world centre after all. Just ask Cloutier
- westcoastleaf

You bastard. Now I have to clean all of this water off my monitor. I tried not to laugh but it happened

It's so funny in here. All I heard for 2 years, and now in a matter of two weeks, nuthin. Not a word. Oh the joys of Hockey Buzz...
- aminnes

Okay shhhh, before it starts again.

Change of subject, quick......

Um.....so, I heard we're getting Luongo.

Agreed. Hefty price tag but I honestly think he's the type of player that might flourish here. He seemed to lose a little bit of mojo when Duchene came on the scene, for some reason. A change of scenery might do him really well.
- Phenom

Maybe because he was #1 for so long that the change affected him, where in toronto he would immediately be recognized as #1 again for center

False.

He averaged about 18 minutes of ice time and about 3 minutes of that was on the first PP unit with Dion.


Meaning even strength, he played about 15 minutes of sheltered minutes.
- jbold

What do you think 2nd pair minutes are? LMAO Man are you a massive moron.

Phaneuf will be run out of town and no one will cry about it.. The sooner you come to terms with it the sooner we can move on to something else.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

and Franson will be next on the block the moment they try to play him top pair minutes.

and Franson will be next on the block the moment they try to play him top pair minutes.
- Big_Lightnin

"Share the minutes equally in the 1st and 2nd pairing of defense" less work and pressure on phaneuf.

Phaneuf has been around longer then 1 season. Did you forget to bring the other years up or is it such an embarassment for you to even mention that you purposely left them out to further your argument.
- JasonDM

Franson has been around for more then 1 season. Want to bring his previous years up, too?


In Nashville, he was also sheltered. 3rd pairing Dman.


First season in Toronto, he was bad.

I think it's a bad idea.. Bozak is a homo but he's nearly as good as Stastny. If the Leafs are going to upgrade then they should really upgrade.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

at what? posting on facebook or whistling Taylor Swift songs.

cause it sure as (frank) isn't at hockey

game and a half actually.

right up until the last shift.
- Big_Lightnin

Games 4-7 3/4 LOL. But are you going to blame one player or a whole team cause last time I checked theirs 5 guys on the ice and no one on any line or pairing knew what they were doing in the last 10 minutes.

Franson has been around for more then 1 season. Want to bring his previous years up, too?


In Nashville, he was also sheltered. 3rd pairing Dman.


First season in Toronto, he was bad.
- jbold

how so? we never saw him play because of wilson when he was better than majority of our defenders to begin with

Phaneuf will be run out of town and no one will cry about it.. The sooner you come to terms with it the sooner we can move on to something else.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Isn't it great that Toronto is a graveyard for defensemen?

I agree. We should run our best defenseman out of town so that we can hurry up and move on to the next guy.

A broken down Mac Truck, maybe.
- jbold

I shoulda said 'in his prime' Chris Pronger.

What do you think 2nd pair minutes are? LMAO Man are you a massive moron.
- JasonDM

20 mins a game.

what do you think they are?

and Franson will be next on the block the moment they try to play him top pair minutes.
- Big_Lightnin

If they move Pha9 they OBVIOUSLY they would need to fill the gap.. Yeah it would dumb dumb dumb to put Franson in the #1 spot.

I think it's a bad idea.. Bozak is a homo but he's nearly as good as Stastny. If the Leafs are going to upgrade then they should really upgrade.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

Right now for me its Vin or Bozak, so long as no amazing trade is out there.

Franson has been around for more then 1 season. Want to bring his previous years up, too?


In Nashville, he was also sheltered. 3rd pairing Dman.


First season in Toronto, he was bad.
- jbold

First season in Toronto he was stapled to the press box because Wilson is an idiot. I think the fact he isn't a coach somewhere else proves my point. The guy had no confidence last year.

What do you think 2nd pair minutes are? LMAO Man are you a massive moron.
- JasonDM

He was playing 3rd pairing minutes.


(frank). Kostka averaged more minutes than him

I think it's a bad idea.. Bozak is a homo but he's nearly as good as Stastny. If the Leafs are going to upgrade then they should really upgrade.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

With who..... What center is out there that is available that is a HUGE upgrade at center

The toronto pressure is all bullpoop if you ask me, the media are donkeys and have the IQ of a peanut.

When he knows the team is relying on him to get the job done, that is alot of pressure since he knows his defensive partner sucks poop and he has to carry the team on his back.
- Mapleleafs_91

I get you, but kinda think the on-ice pressure is bullpoop as well. To me he just looks like a guy who sincerely doesnt give a poop enough to crack under pressure.
Imo, its the mental fatigue of long nights with no partner.
But hey, I dont know for sure. I cant see inside the guys head, although that'd be quite an adventure. Honestly seems like itd be pretty empty in there. Takes the guy 3 minutes to spit out a full compound sentence.

If they move Pha9 they OBVIOUSLY they would need to fill the gap.. Yeah it would dumb dumb dumb to put Franson in the #1 spot.
- Arctic_AARDVARK

not everyone here sees this

First season in Toronto he was stapled to the press box because Wilson is an idiot. I think the fact he isn't a coach somewhere else proves my point. The guy had no confidence last year.
- JasonDM

Along with everyone other point you've made, you havent proved it.