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Cmulvey12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 28 @ 1:53 AM ET
Last summer everyone pretty much got sick of me saying how good Galchenyuk was gonna be
Barkov is my guy this year (although I also love Lindholm & Ristolainen)
And if Jones fulfills his potential, wow... That kid really could be the next "Pronger"

- jdfitz77

I was very high on Galchenyuk as well. I believe MacKinnon and Drouin are being over-hyped. You compare their numbers to guys who have recently gone high (Stamkos Tavares Kane hell eben Crosby) and suddenly you'll come back to earth. On the other hand, compare Barkov's numbers to Granlund's (who's supposed to be a real good NHL center), package in his faceoff and defensive abilities, and I think you've got a hell of an NHL player.
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 28 @ 2:00 AM ET
Definitely a possibility. My dream scenario is as follows:
Shinkaruk at 8
Trade Staf+Miller+16 to Pho for 11+Gormley
Trade Ennis+Sekera+11 for B. Ryan+
Hopefully trade for Bollans
Our 2014-2015 lineup(which is the year Regier should be targeting as the year we compete again):
Vanek-Grigs-Armia
Ryan-Hodgson-Shinkaruk
Girgs-Larsson-Foligno
Ott-Bolland/Porter-Kaleta/Tropp/Flynn

Erhoff-Psysk
Gormley-Myers
Weber-McNabb
Ruhwedal/McCabe

Hackett/Enroth
I may be dreaming a bit in order to receive the players I want, but as far as I'm concerned the trades seem to be of equal value and I strongly believe this would be a hell of a team and one that is difficult to play against

- Cmulvey12

LINDHOLM
Cmulvey12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:03 AM ET
LINDHOLM
- LetsGoBuffalo75

I don't think he's gonna be available, but if he's there then hell yeah I'd take him. We need a top-6 rw and if we can get lindholm or maybe even nichushkin I would consider keeping ennis. I just don't think we could have shinkaruk and ennis in our top 6, especially with the other 4 guys we have because none of them are that physical.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:05 AM ET
I was very high on Galchenyuk as well. I believe MacKinnon and Drouin are being over-hyped. You compare their numbers to guys who have recently gone high (Stamkos Tavares Kane hell eben Crosby) and suddenly you'll come back to earth. On the other hand, compare Barkov's numbers to Granlund's (who's supposed to be a real good NHL center), package in his faceoff and defensive abilities, and I think you've got a hell of an NHL player.
- Cmulvey12


Yep,
And the thing most don't realize...
Barkov is putting up the same #s Grandlund did...
Except Granlund was 20... And Barkov is ONLY 17
He's the truth
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:06 AM ET
Definitely a possibility. My dream scenario is as follows:
Shinkaruk at 8
Trade Staf+Miller+16 to Pho for 11+Gormley
Trade Ennis+Sekera+11 for B. Ryan+
Hopefully trade for Bollans
Our 2014-2015 lineup(which is the year Regier should be targeting as the year we compete again):
Vanek-Grigs-Armia
Ryan-Hodgson-Shinkaruk
Girgs-Larsson-Foligno
Ott-Bolland/Porter-Kaleta/Tropp/Flynn

Erhoff-Psysk
Gormley-Myers
Weber-McNabb
Ruhwedal/McCabe

Hackett/Enroth
I may be dreaming a bit in order to receive the players I want, but as far as I'm concerned the trades seem to be of equal value and I strongly believe this would be a hell of a team and one that is difficult to play against

- Cmulvey12



Nice...
I like this game!
Give me a couple minutes
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 28 @ 2:12 AM ET
I don't think he's gonna be available, but if he's there then hell yeah I'd take him. We need a top-6 rw and if we can get lindholm or maybe even nichushkin I would consider keeping ennis. I just don't think we could have shinkaruk and ennis in our top 6, especially with the other 4 guys we have because none of them are that physical.
- Cmulvey12

I think he'll be there. I see the top 10 as...

Jones/MacKinnon
MacKinnon/Jones
Barkov
Drouin
Nichushkin
Monahan
Nurse/Ristolainen
Lindholm
Shinkaruk
Ristolainen/Nurse
Cmulvey12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:13 AM ET
Yep,
And the thing most don't realize...
Barkov is putting up the same #s Grandlund did...
Except Granlund was 20... And Barkov is ONLY 17
He's the truth

- jdfitz77

EXACTLY. And how highly rated is granlund? (Ill answer that, 16th rated prospect on hockeysfuture and is projected to be a top-6 player this year) By that logic, Barkov should be able to step in and play top 6 next year, I know he won't because of his contract and military duty and whatnot, and make an impact. Not to mention his character, f/o %, and defensive game
Cmulvey12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:14 AM ET
I think he'll be there. I see the top 10 as...

Jones/MacKinnon
MacKinnon/Jones
Barkov
Drouin
Nichushkin
Monahan
Nurse/Ristolainen
Lindholm
Shinkaruk
Ristolainen/Nurse

- LetsGoBuffalo75


I could see Flames taking Lindholm. I also believe the Oilers are looking more for a strong, skilled #2 Center or will trade the pick, in which case I believe the team trading up would be seeking lindholm.
Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: New Haven, CT
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:16 AM ET
Yep,
And the thing most don't realize...
Barkov is putting up the same #s Grandlund did...
Except Granlund was 20... And Barkov is ONLY 17
He's the truth

- jdfitz77


I really like Barkov, but lets face it. He goes LATEST 4th overall. The top 4 picks are unavailable and understandly, why would anyone pass one of those players up. Im really hoping we can get nichuschkin.
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 28 @ 2:17 AM ET
I could see Flames taking Lindholm. I also believe the Oilers are looking more for a strong, skilled #2 Center or will trade the pick, in which case I believe the team trading up would be seeking lindholm.
- Cmulvey12

Monahan is a lock for CGY. By far the most guaranteed pick in the draft.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:21 AM ET
I really like Barkov, but lets face it. He goes LATEST 4th overall. The top 4 picks are unavailable and understandly, why would anyone pass one of those players up. Im really hoping we can get nichuschkin.
- Djtyczy


We do the Miller for #11, Read & Coburn rumored deal
Turn around and trade Coburn, Read & Hodgson (or Grigorenko) for #3 or 4 overall
That way TB or Nash has 3 guys they can plug in NOW,
And not have to wait two years on Barkov
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:22 AM ET
EXACTLY. And how highly rated is granlund? (Ill answer that, 16th rated prospect on hockeysfuture and is projected to be a top-6 player this year) By that logic, Barkov should be able to step in and play top 6 next year, I know he won't because of his contract and military duty and whatnot, and make an impact. Not to mention his character, f/o %, and defensive game
- Cmulvey12


Yep
And he has a "power forward" element to his game to....
"he loves to drive the net" is a direct quote from a scout
Cmulvey12
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:23 AM ET
We do the Miller for #11, Read & Coburn rumored deal
Turn around and trade Coburn, Read & Hodgson (or Grigorenko) for #3 or 4 overall
That way TB or Nash has 3 guys they can plug in NOW,
And not have to wait two years on Barkov

- jdfitz77

But even that. That'd a lot to give up for a still unproven player. It's a really tough choice.
Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: New Haven, CT
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:27 AM ET
I think he'll be there. I see the top 10 as...

Jones/MacKinnon
MacKinnon/Jones
Barkov
Drouin
Nichushkin
Monahan
Nurse/Ristolainen
Lindholm
Shinkaruk
Ristolainen/Nurse

- LetsGoBuffalo75


I think Jones drops to 4, in my mock 3.0 he will. Carolina will take monahan, nurse, or trade the pick. Calgary wont pass on Lindholm, he has time to develop and get bigger with there long rebuild.

This is how I see the top 4, the rest of my mock 3.0 will be posted on saturday here http://www.glendalemock.com/1.html

1. MacKinnon: Colorado says they are taking him, cant blame them, elite skilled #1 center and plays big in big games.

2. Drouin: Florida wants an electric forward, and drouin is that. Him and hubreadu will be deadly. They pass on Jones because they are set on D with gudbranson, kulikov, campbell, petrovic, ecetera.

3. Barkov: Elite 2-way center, tampa continues to have a deadly 1-2 punch with Stamkos and Barkov even tho Lecavier is gone.

4. Jones: Polie said Jones is the best player in the draft, and he gets his replacement for Suter. Elite 2-way defenseman. Shea Weber will develop him into an elite 1st pair defenseman.
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 28 @ 2:29 AM ET
I think Jones drops to 4, in my mock 3.0 he will. Carolina will take monahan, nurse, or trade the pick. Calgary wont pass on Lindholm, he has time to develop and get bigger with there long rebuild.

This is how I see the top 4, the rest of my mock 3.0 will be posted on saturday here http://www.glendalemock.com/1.html

1. MacKinnon: Colorado says they are taking him, cant blame them, elite skilled #1 center and plays big in big games.

2. Drouin: Florida wants an electric forward, and drouin is that. Him and hubreadu will be deadly. They pass on Jones because they are set on D with gudbranson, kulikov, campbell, petrovic, ecetera.

3. Barkov: Elite 2-way center, tampa continues to have a deadly 1-2 punch with Stamkos and Barkov even tho Lecavier is gone.

4. Jones: Polie said Jones is the best player in the draft, and he gets his replacement for Suter. Elite 2-way defenseman. Shea Weber will develop him into an elite 1st pair defenseman.

- Djtyczy

I just can't see that happening.
Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: New Haven, CT
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:32 AM ET
We do the Miller for #11, Read & Coburn rumored deal
Turn around and trade Coburn, Read & Hodgson (or Grigorenko) for #3 or 4 overall
That way TB or Nash has 3 guys they can plug in NOW,
And not have to wait two years on Barkov

- jdfitz77


I just dont see all that happening. Id rather get nich at 5, then nurse or risto at 8, get zadorov or horvat at 11, 16 get Fucale (i know everyone here except me will flip) or a forward like domi if hes there.

Then get an exblad next year.

Then pray, pray, pray and get the other top 6 center in Mcdavid and have a Mcdavid, grigo, girgo/larsson 1-2-3 center punch.
Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: New Haven, CT
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:34 AM ET
I just can't see that happening.
- LetsGoBuffalo75


Not many people can, but i think it fits. If colorado would just take for need and draft Jones, they would make everything much easier lol.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:35 AM ET
We do the Miller for #11, Read & Coburn rumored deal
Turn around and trade Coburn, Read & Hodgson (or Grigorenko) for #3 or 4 overall
That way TB or Nash has 3 guys they can plug in NOW,
And not have to wait two years on Barkov

- jdfitz77


I've got more...
I warn, this gets a little nuts, but it's my fantasy... Haha

Myers for #7 & Pajaarvi
Ehrhoff & Paajarvi for #5
Vanek for #14 & #19

3/4- Barkov
5- Nichuskin
7- Lindholm
8- Nurse
11- Ristolainen
14- Erne
16- Mantha
19- Fucale

2014 1st- Ekblad
2015 1st- McDavid

2015 season
Lines not necessarily in order...
Nichuskin-Grigorenko-Erne
Girgensons-Barkov-Armia
Lindholm-McDavid-Mantha
Foligno-Catenacci-Tropp/Kaleta

Nurse-Ekblad
McNabb-Pysyk
McCabe-Ristolainen

Enroth
Hackett
Fucale.... The 3 fight it out to be #1

And if any of those trades need more added...
I have Ennis, Flynn, Sekera, Ott & Stafford I can throw in
Or if I need to use them to move up for Ekblad or mcdavid

And ya, I know that's all kinda crazy...
But I decided to have some real fun with it
Hahaha
Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: New Haven, CT
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:38 AM ET
I've got more...
I warn, this gets a little nuts, but it's my fantasy... Haha

Myers for #7 & Pajaarvi
Ehrhoff & Paajarvi for #5
Vanek for #14 & #19

3/4- Barkov
5- Nichuskin
7- Lindholm
8- Nurse
11- Ristolainen
14- Erne
16- Mantha
19- Fucale

2014 1st- Ekblad
2015 1st- McDavid

2015 season
Lines not necessarily in order...
Nichuskin-Grigorenko-Erne
Girgensons-Barkov-Armia
Lindholm-McDavid-Mantha
Foligno-Catenacci-Tropp/Kaleta

Nurse-Ekblad
McNabb-Pysyk
McCabe-Ristolainen

Enroth
Hackett
Fucale.... The 3 fight it out to be #1

And if any of those trades need more added...
I have Ennis, Flynn, Sekera, Ott & Stafford I can throw in
Or if I need to use them to move up for Ekblad or mcdavid

And ya, I know that's all kinda crazy...
But I decided to have some real fun with it
Hahaha

- jdfitz77


That would be nice, you forgot larsson tho.
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:39 AM ET
Monahan is a lock for CGY. By far the most guaranteed pick in the draft.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

what if he doesnt last that long? Nash and Tampa both could be targeting center.
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:39 AM ET
I just can't see that happening.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

I think Jones will drop out of the top-3 as well, which in my mind means that Nashville could be open to trading out of the 4 slot with Barkov off the board. Would Carolina maybe consider moving up to #4 to take Jones at that point? Would Nashville drop from 5 to 8? A lot of things could happen. Nashville could stand pat and take Lindholm or Nichushkin at #4 as well. Do we all agree that if Jones falls to Carolina at #5 they take him?
LetsGoBuffalo75
Buffalo Sabres
Location: He is all. He is eternal. He is love. He is life. He is Rob Ford., NY
Joined: 07.07.2012

Jun 28 @ 2:40 AM ET
I've got more...
I warn, this gets a little nuts, but it's my fantasy... Haha

Myers for #7 & Pajaarvi
Ehrhoff & Paajarvi for #5
Vanek for #14 & #19

3/4- Barkov
5- Nichuskin
7- Lindholm
8- Nurse
11- Ristolainen
14- Erne
16- Mantha
19- Fucale

2014 1st- Ekblad
2015 1st- McDavid

2015 season
Lines not necessarily in order...
Nichuskin-Grigorenko-Erne
Girgensons-Barkov-Armia
Lindholm-McDavid-Mantha
Foligno-Catenacci-Tropp/Kaleta

Nurse-Ekblad
McNabb-Pysyk
McCabe-Ristolainen

Enroth
Hackett
Fucale.... The 3 fight it out to be #1

And if any of those trades need more added...
I have Ennis, Flynn, Sekera, Ott & Stafford I can throw in
Or if I need to use them to move up for Ekblad or mcdavid

And ya, I know that's all kinda crazy...
But I decided to have some real fun with it
Hahaha

- jdfitz77

I love you
Mentalorgasm5
Buffalo Sabres
Location: "F-" Robert, NY
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:41 AM ET
I think Jones drops to 4, in my mock 3.0 he will. Carolina will take monahan, nurse, or trade the pick. Calgary wont pass on Lindholm, he has time to develop and get bigger with there long rebuild.

This is how I see the top 4, the rest of my mock 3.0 will be posted on saturday here http://www.glendalemock.com/1.html

1. MacKinnon: Colorado says they are taking him, cant blame them, elite skilled #1 center and plays big in big games.

2. Drouin: Florida wants an electric forward, and drouin is that. Him and hubreadu will be deadly. They pass on Jones because they are set on D with gudbranson, kulikov, campbell, petrovic, ecetera.

3. Barkov: Elite 2-way center, tampa continues to have a deadly 1-2 punch with Stamkos and Barkov even tho Lecavier is gone.

4. Jones: Polie said Jones is the best player in the draft, and he gets his replacement for Suter. Elite 2-way defenseman. Shea Weber will develop him into an elite 1st pair defenseman.

- Djtyczy

Jones is going first, nothing but smoke screens from the AVs to try and get Florida to move up to get Mac first overall, and get an extra pick or two.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 28 @ 2:42 AM ET
But even that. That'd a lot to give up for a still unproven player. It's a really tough choice.
- Cmulvey12


It's gotta be though,
Otherwise they wouldn't make the deal
Djtyczy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: New Haven, CT
Joined: 03.09.2013

Jun 28 @ 2:42 AM ET
I think Jones will drop out of the top-3 as well, which in my mind means that Nashville could be open to trading out of the 4 slot with Barkov off the board. Would Carolina maybe consider moving up to #4 to take Jones at that point? Would Nashville drop from 5 to 8? A lot of things could happen. Nashville could stand pat and take Lindholm or Nichushkin at #4 as well. Do we all agree that if Jones falls to Carolina at #5 they take him?
- Pierceme69


Yes they would take him, but i read today that the Nashville GM i think his name is dave polie said Seth Jones is the best player in the draft which translates to Jones is #1 on Nashville's board. They wont pass on him.
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