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That's a stretch. Zero truly great players, but a fair amount of players you can safely call 'good'.
Hudler
Baertschi
Cammalleri
Glencross
Giordano
Stajan - Morris
Putting Stajan on there is generous but yeah.
Baertschi is one of the few untouchables, Giordano is probably close to it, and Glencross has a great deal and is a player a ton of teams would love to have. |
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I think Giordano is solid and Baertschi could grow to be a solid top 6 player - Meeqsb
Don't sleep on TJ Brodie ... Many ppl know nothing about him and even a few years ago I wasn't too high on him but he has developed quite well ... Confident with the puck and makes a great first pass , looked perfectly capable qbing the pp and plays quite well defensively |
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Don't sleep on TJ Brodie ... Many ppl know nothing about him and even a few years ago I wasn't too high on him but he has developed quite well ... Confident with the puck and makes a great first pass , looked perfectly capable qbing the pp and plays quite well defensively - Redmile247
oh yeah. I would be furious if they traded Brodie for magic beans. |
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Steve-B
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Location: Ann Arbor, MI Joined: 07.20.2011
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Stastny would move to wing. According to Roy, however he is most likely to be traded. - Meeqsb
You do know Roy said he was going to try O'Reilly on Duchene's LW right? It was an 'insider' part of ESPN's article with Roy.
I personally think they are going to try O'Reilly there first, if that does not work, they'll try Stastny there, and at the trade deadline one of them is moved for either another LW like Bobby Ryan (O'Reilly) or a defender.
Probably going to look something like this to start,
O'Reilly - Duchene - Parenteau
McGinn - Stastny - Landeskog
Tanguay - Mackinnon - Downie (They'll be fairly well sheltered with the other two lines)
McLeod - Mitchell - Bordeleau
It makes a lot of sense to try and setup Stastny for a bounce back season at center, if he bounces back hes worth keeping, or has more trade value either way.
O'Reilly is under control as a RFA, yes his Q/O is more than you'd like, but he can be traded for a top 3 defender much easier than Stastny. Or if we find another way to pull a guy like Phaneuf or Letang, then O'Reilly can be flipped for a power forward for that top line.
O'Reilly also has a good incentive to sign a longer term deal with a 5M AAV contract as well. It will make him easier to trade, and or give him more security.
Colorado has lots of options to be honest. |
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Hunkulese
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Location: QC Joined: 09.30.2006
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I'm sorry Flames fans, this is a horrible trade for you guys.
David Jones was a healthy scratch over guys like Paluajashfe@E whatever, and played on the 4th line while Cody McLeod played on a line with Stastny more consistently.
Jones hasn't been anything close to what Feaster says in that statement in two years, and SOB was fairly soft last year compared to the year prior, and was a healthy scratch over guys like Zannon and Hunwick.
Most Avs fans believed we would have to buyout David Jones and that he was Un-tradable.
You guys got dumped on hardcore, and O'Brien has two years left on his deal as well. - Steve-B
It's cute because Flames fans had the same feelings about Tanguay and Sarich.
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Hunkulese
Calgary Flames |
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I love all the expert GMs here that think the only way to rebuild a team is blow everything up and stop trying to win. Has that ever happened? Pittsburgh got super lucky and were horrible at the ideal time and won a lottery. How is sucking every year working out for the Oilers, Jackets and Panthers? Getting a top 5 pick every year for 5 years isn't necessary and really hurts your chances getting FAs to want to sign with you. It's more important to make good picks wherever you pick and groom them to be NHLs. I believe the Flames have been doing this but it's impossible to make a judgement until their prospects make it to the NHL. They have talent in their system and if they can make a few good free agents signings and figure out what happens in goal they could be competitive sooner than one would think.
Their biggest problem last year was Iginla. It wasn't his fault but we had a team built around a player who wasn't capable of carrying a team anymore. They played exactly like him when he was still here. Flashes of occasional brilliance followed by long periods of invisibility. They still have a decent team and a good system. There's no reason (well I guess Joey Macdonald may be a reason) they can't compete for the playoffs next year. |
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Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: Denver Joined: 10.13.2011
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I love all the expert GMs here that think the only way to rebuild a team is blow everything up and stop trying to win. Has that ever happened? Pittsburgh got super lucky and were horrible at the ideal time and won a lottery. How is sucking every year working out for the Oilers, Jackets and Panthers? Getting a top 5 pick every year for 5 years isn't necessary and really hurts your chances getting FAs to want to sign with you. It's more important to make good picks wherever you pick and groom them to be NHLs. I believe the Flames have been doing this but it's impossible to make a judgement until their prospects make it to the NHL. They have talent in their system and if they can make a few good free agents signings and figure out what happens in goal they could be competitive sooner than one would think.
Their biggest problem last year was Iginla. It wasn't his fault but we had a team built around a player who wasn't capable of carrying a team anymore. They played exactly like him when he was still here. Flashes of occasional brilliance followed by long periods of invisibility. They still have a decent team and a good system. There's no reason (well I guess Joey Macdonald may be a reason) they can't compete for the playoffs next year. - Hunkulese
No matter which way you feel the best way to go about it is, you have to admit, the Flames are pretty bare. |
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Kevin R
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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No matter which way you feel the best way to go about it is, you have to admit, the Flames are pretty bare. - Meeqsb
What's your point?? We just sold off our long time franchise forward, franchise top2 dman, had our franchise goalie retire all for picks & futures. Yeah we're running bare & no one in Flames land think this team is a playoff bound team next year or even the year after for that matter. But I will tell you, Flames will be in the top 10 for hockey futures. I see 2 years & we will start getting noticed. The healing begins Sunday. Of all people, you should know what path we are about to embark on. We know what we have, no need to tell us. Despite how bad we were, we still finished ahead of the Avs. What does that mean? |
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Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche |
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Location: Denver Joined: 10.13.2011
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What's your point?? We just sold off our long time franchise forward, franchise top2 dman, had our franchise goalie retire all for picks & futures. Yeah we're running bare & no one in Flames land think this team is a playoff bound team next year or even the year after for that matter. But I will tell you, Flames will be in the top 10 for hockey futures. I see 2 years & we will start getting noticed. The healing begins Sunday. Of all people, you should know what path we are about to embark on. We know what we have, no need to tell us. Despite how bad we were, we still finished ahead of the Avs. What does that mean? - Kevin R
It means you started you rebuild 3 years too late. You lost so much quality by letting your assets depreciate.
2 years ago there were talks of Iggy for Malkin for christ sakes. You GM should be burned at the stake.
He probably still thinks the Flames have a chance |
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rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN Joined: 01.05.2009
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Will be covering both teams. - Todd.Cordell
How could you Todd |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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How could you Todd - rmdevil313
Bring back Sam Woo!
Edit: Just kidding Todd, you're a solid blogger. |
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whipper334
Calgary Flames |
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Location: The man they call Reveen!! Joined: 01.06.2010
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I would still rather have a draft pick or prospect rather than a late twenties early thirties player. Stockpiling draft picks and prospects should be priority # 1 right now for the Flames.
I just don't get all the sideways movements by feaster. - Sheppy99
Dude you have to fcking ice a team! |
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whipper334
Calgary Flames |
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Location: The man they call Reveen!! Joined: 01.06.2010
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It means you started you rebuild 3 years too late. You lost so much quality by letting your assets depreciate.
2 years ago there were talks of Iggy for Malkin for christ sakes. You GM should be burned at the stake.
He probably still thinks the Flames have a chance - Meeqsb
You're sad dude. |
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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It means you started you rebuild 3 years too late. You lost so much quality by letting your assets depreciate.
2 years ago there were talks of Iggy for Malkin for christ sakes. You GM should be burned at the stake.
He probably still thinks the Flames have a chance - Meeqsb
That's the misconception. Sutter wanted to trade Iggy 3 years ago for Schenn, Simmonds & a 1st. The owner Edwards shut that down. Feaster just got the green light last March to trade him. You cant pile on the current GM for that. No more than blaming Holmgren for the Bryz contract. Yes our owner cut off his nose but its his money & now here we are. Rebuild fm almost scratch. |
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flamminghead
Calgary Flames |
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Location: As good as they are in the off, AB Joined: 09.02.2009
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I thought Tanguay had more value than that |
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rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers |
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Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN Joined: 01.05.2009
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Bring back Sam Woo! - Nucker101
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Kevin R
Calgary Flames |
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Location: E5 = It aint gonna happen. Joined: 02.10.2010
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I thought Tanguay had more value than that - flamminghead
No. He failed in Tampa & Mont & came back to Calgary on a 1 year next to nothing prove it contract. When Iggy's trade became public, he pouted & wanted out. There was no value, If someone offered a 2nd for him Feaster probably would have taken that. Jones was on their radar, poor year during a lockout season & previously 20+ goals the previous 2 years. Get rid of a player who would be bad for a young locker room for someone that could be a GlenX. Not bad. SOB is way me playable than Sarich. We couldn't even get a 5th rounder at the trade deadline for him. |
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numbear
Calgary Flames |
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Location: vancouver, BC Joined: 06.24.2011
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Thank you for the info! Mckinnon will play center though. They would move Stastny or Raydar to the wing before that. - Meeqsb
He's a right hand shot. I could see him developing like seguin. Let him play the game a few times at wing before throwing him at center if its not needed. |
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numbear
Calgary Flames |
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Location: vancouver, BC Joined: 06.24.2011
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I just looked at Flames roster and OMG talk about bare. They have maybe 2 players who are any good. Yikes.
Feaster ran you guys to the ground. The picks should help though - Meeqsb
It wasn't feaster, it was years before that and crappy drafts. Basically a decade of bad moves and drafts.
I take comfort though in the fact that Canucks are one Sedin extension away to being worse off |
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Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC Joined: 09.26.2010
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It wasn't feaster, it was years before that and crappy drafts. Basically a decade of bad moves and drafts.
I take comfort though in the fact that Canucks are one Sedin extension away to being worse off - numbear
Dude, the Falmes are probably in one of the worst positions in the league right now. Canucks might be on the decline, but they still have a ton of players with great value. Flames have very few IMO. I'm not a homer, but you gotta call it like it is and the Flames ownership being so involved really has (frank)ed them over. |
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I just don't get the feeling he's fully accepted a rebuild. Feels like he thinks he just needs to retool or something. Especially considering the fact that he's waited on baited breath regarding whether Kipper will come back or not?
Really Feaster? Who cares if Kipper comes back, your team is not a goalie away from being a contender for crying out loud. Let him retire in peace and see what you have in your younger goalies this year.
Just feels like the Flames are repeating all the mistakes of the JFJ era in Toronto. - Sheppy99
Still need warm bodies to compete. A side ways deal? We get younger and don't give up anything really special. Tangs has good skill but, yea, he's soft and doesn't want to be here anymore.
Kipper. Feaster is waiting to see if he can still trade him for something. I don't think it matters one ioda if he leaves the Flames to Feaster. Feaster has been signing every goalie in the world that was available.
If Jones finds his game again, CGY wins this out right. If not, for the length of the contracts, it ends up a wash.
Bottom line, neither of these 2 players gets CGY to 9th or 10th place finish and that is the important thing right now. Just be hard to play against. |
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That's a stretch. Zero truly great players, but a fair amount of players you can safely call 'good'.
Hudler
Baertschi
Cammalleri
Glencross
Giordano
Stajan - Morris
Yea, that would be the part that is called rebuilding. |
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Agreed
Tangs is still capable and has a accurate shot , not the toughest obviously ... Was overrated in the past but is underrated now ... Gives avs good offensive depth as any injuries in top 6 and tangs can fill in
Jones has been playing rather poorly recently but has put the puck in the net before and who knows he could be another Stewart ... We have some smsller wingers coning up so a year to see if he could regain his scoring wont hurt ...Worse case scenario we get a look at him and if he is crap buyout his ass
Sarich is older then sob but a smarter player ... Sob will drop the mitts if one of the smaller guys get run
This is a rather blah trade that could end up pretty good for either team - Redmile247
I agree with the Jones part. Like Stewart, maybe he suffered last year with injury recovery and will bounce back after a full off season of recovery. Either, I don't mind the trade at all. We shouldn't be looking to get to the PO right now anyway, just simply to compete hard and give our current and future kids a chance to develop. |
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Putting Stajan on there is generous but yeah.
Baertschi is one of the few untouchables, Giordano is probably close to it, and Glencross has a great deal and is a player a ton of teams would love to have. - S Kaspar Rollins
Brodie should probably be in there as well. |
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