Both sides: Ignore the trolls.

Trades are so few and far between in the NHL nowadays, people are extra disappointed when they can't say someone screwed up.
- Morris

with this one you can make a case for either team, but I would be surprised if it ended up a clear-cut win in the end for either

mean player, physical

basically he's an older obrien.

Tangs is what evens it out for you. Gives you a set up man for Duchene and Landeskog.

Jones fills the flames need for size. And probably opens up a spot on wing to put Mackinon on.
- numbear

Thank you for the info! Mckinnon will play center though. They would move Stastny or Raydar to the wing before that.

Decent trade for both teams, nothing wow, just solid.

Tanguay and Sarich bring leadership. I believe both have rings

Jones may be able to get back to the 20 goal version of himself
- ystoil

Agreed. Can Feaster even afford to make a bad trade at this point?

with this one you can make a case for either team, but I would be surprised if it ended up a clear-cut win in the end for either
- S Kaspar Rollins

Jeez, if people are reopening the Kessel trade for re-evaluation, we're going to have a hard time coming to a consensus on this lower-profile trade.

What can you guys tell me about Sarich?
- Meeqsb

Sarich lacks foot speed and often makes poor decisions regarding when to pinch etc, and he struggles at breaking out of the zone and getting the puck to the forwards. He is capable in front of the net and from time to time he does connect with a giant hit. He can clear the puck from the zone on the PK but shouldn't be trusted with heavy minutes. Overall, a bottom pairing filler/7th D for the Avs.

I like this trade for the Flames.

No, seriously. Tanguay is the most overrated player ever. Jones is a 20g guy who can hit. Sarich wouldn't make the 11/12 pairing on most teams.

Jeez, if people are reopening the Kessel trade for re-evaluation, we're going to have a hard time coming to a consensus on this lower-profile trade.
- Morris

all along I felt that trade wasn't quite as bad as people made it out to be, but I never said so because the debate was so annoying. believe it or not (I know most people won't).

I like this trade for the Flames.

No, seriously. Tanguay is the most overrated player ever. Jones is a 20g guy who can hit. Sarich wouldn't make the 11/12 pairing on most teams.
- Maxbone

considering you bash literally every single move the flames make (often with troll logic) i'm not sure what to make of this

I don't think Tanguay had very much value. Bad contract, declining player, and likely a malcontent as well.
- S Kaspar Rollins

I would still rather have a draft pick or prospect rather than a late twenties early thirties player. Stockpiling draft picks and prospects should be priority # 1 right now for the Flames.

I just don't get all the sideways movements by feaster.

I would still rather have a draft pick or prospect rather than a late twenties early thirties player. Stockpiling draft picks and prospects should be priority # 1 right now for the Flames.

I just don't get all the sideways movements by feaster.
- Sheppy99

yeah I would have endorsed flipping him for a 2nd as well. who knows what was available though.

yeah I would have endorsed flipping him for a 2nd as well. who knows what was available though.
- S Kaspar Rollins

I just don't get the feeling he's fully accepted a rebuild. Feels like he thinks he just needs to retool or something. Especially considering the fact that he's waited on baited breath regarding whether Kipper will come back or not?

Really Feaster? Who cares if Kipper comes back, your team is not a goalie away from being a contender for crying out loud. Let him retire in peace and see what you have in your younger goalies this year.

Just feels like the Flames are repeating all the mistakes of the JFJ era in Toronto.

I just don't get the feeling he's fully accepted a rebuild. Feels like he thinks he just needs to retool or something. Especially considering the fact that he's waited on baited breath regarding whether Kipper will come back or not?

Really Feaster? Who cares if Kipper comes back, your team is not a goalie away from being a contender for crying out loud. Let him retire in peace and see what you have in your younger goalies this year.

Just feels like the Flames are repeating all the mistakes of the JFJ era in Toronto.
- Sheppy99

i would hardly call it that...they just never officially announced it. the reason was PR, since the whole thing was a cluster(frank) from start to finish (also, this will never be confirmed, but the reason Kipper was so dead set on retiring was because that was his handshake deal with Darryl when he signed his cap-cheat contract, and they don't want to draw attention to that).

I don't buy your argument at all. I could be proven wrong - for instance, I expect Feaster to make a run at Richards or Lecavalier, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're not committed to rebuilding. Your evidence is lacking

but yes, they WERE the JFJ era Leafs, I agree 100%. whether they still are is another question

I just looked at Flames roster and OMG talk about bare. They have maybe 2 players who are any good. Yikes.

Feaster ran you guys to the ground. The picks should help though

i would hardly call it that...they just never officially announced it. the reason was PR, since the whole thing was a cluster(frank) from start to finish (also, this will never be confirmed, but the reason Kipper was so dead set on retiring was because that was his handshake deal with Darryl when he signed his cap-cheat contract, and they don't want to draw attention to that).

I don't buy your argument at all. I could be proven wrong - for instance, I expect Feaster to make a run at Richards or Lecavalier, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're not committed to rebuilding. Your evidence is lacking

but yes, they WERE the JFJ era Leafs, I agree 100%. whether they still are is another question
- S Kaspar Rollins

How do you rebuild if your GM is going to try and sign Lecavillier or Richards? That just guarantees you another poor first round draft pick and missed playoffs? When is the last time your team made the playoffs higher than 8th place?

You can't build a team around free agency, it just doesn't work.

Clearly Feaster is trying to tell the Avs he's sorry for the whole O'Reilly thing by taking O'Brien, AKA the stupid penalties at bad times machine.

I just looked at Flames roster and OMG talk about bare. They have maybe 2 players who are any good. Yikes.

Feaster ran you guys to the ground. The picks should help though
- Meeqsb

Trying to understand the flames will make your head hurt.... I gave up after they drafted that high school kid in the first round and every analyst was like "who?"

How do you rebuild if your GM is going to try and sign Lecavillier or Richards? That just guarantees you another poor first round draft pick and missed playoffs? When is the last time your team made the playoffs higher than 8th place?

You can't build a team around free agency, it just doesn't work.
- Sheppy99

To the Flames rebuilding means they get back to ninth place, or whatever the equivalent will be in the new alignment.

yeah I would have endorsed flipping him for a 2nd as well. who knows what was available though.
- S Kaspar Rollins

If Feaster could have gotten a 2nd for Tanguay, it would have been done ages ago. Tanguay was a (frank)ing sourpuss at the end & did not want to be here once the process to trade Iggy began after that LA game. I could care less what we got for him, I certainly wouldn't want the likes of Sven & Monohan & Brodie & Gaudreau kick starting their new careers with that crab in the locker room. Sarich was a warrior but he was past his shelf life. Was a healthy scratch how many games last year? Jones scored 20+ goals prior to last year. Yeah he had a bad year last year, but a new start & at 6'2" he's going to hit more friggin Oilers than Tanguay ever has in his career. He just may pop 15 goals to boot. SOB, well he does pretty well what Sarich did, functional 5-6 dman & he still has some shelf life left. If he reported over weight, which could have been a result of the lockout, he may be OK.
This deal is just a housekeeping deal & hopefully the start of lots more trades to come. Cammi is next, Ottawa or the Rangers will probably be the destination. We might get our 2nd in that deal.

I just looked at Flames roster and OMG talk about bare. They have maybe 2 players who are any good. Yikes.

Feaster ran you guys to the ground. The picks should help though
- Meeqsb

That's a stretch. Zero truly great players, but a fair amount of players you can safely call 'good'.

Hudler
Baertschi
Cammalleri
Glencross
Giordano
Stajan

How do you rebuild if your GM is going to try and sign Lecavillier or Richards? That just guarantees you another poor first round draft pick and missed playoffs? When is the last time your team made the playoffs higher than 8th place?

You can't build a team around free agency, it just doesn't work.
- Sheppy99

They could pull a dallas, sign a player like Jagr then trade them at the trade deadline.

That's a stretch. Zero truly great players, but a fair amount of players you can safely call 'good'.

Hudler
Baertschi
Cammalleri
Glencross
Giordano
Stajan
- Morris

I think Giordano is solid and Baertschi could grow to be a solid top 6 player

Both sides: Ignore the trolls.

Trades are so few and far between in the NHL nowadays, people are extra disappointed when they can't say someone screwed up.
- Morris

Agreed
Tangs is still capable and has a accurate shot , not the toughest obviously ... Was overrated in the past but is underrated now ... Gives avs good offensive depth as any injuries in top 6 and tangs can fill in

Jones has been playing rather poorly recently but has put the puck in the net before and who knows he could be another Stewart ... We have some smsller wingers coning up so a year to see if he could regain his scoring wont hurt ...Worse case scenario we get a look at him and if he is crap buyout his ass

Sarich is older then sob but a smarter player ... Sob will drop the mitts if one of the smaller guys get run

This is a rather blah trade that could end up pretty good for either team

4 million for 3 goals. Ouch.

4 million for 3 goals. Ouch.
- Smurfs-A-Joke

Yeah the avs got ripped off by him this year ... Hopefully he gets more now that we are paying him

How do you rebuild if your GM is going to try and sign Lecavillier or Richards? That just guarantees you another poor first round draft pick and missed playoffs? When is the last time your team made the playoffs higher than 8th place?

You can't build a team around free agency, it just doesn't work.
- Sheppy99

I never said I would be a fan of it (nor do I have any evidence he'll do so, it's just a pessimistic guess). I don't know if it would guarantee a poor draft spot - I mean they had Iggy most of the year and still finished pretty poorly; can't see why either would be much better.

Theoretically though, if it were only for 2-3 years it might work out okay, you can't have a team ENTIRELY made of young unproven players.