Too many rumors start because a reporter or someone thinks it makes sense when there is never any truth to it. Didn't hear any rumors about the Calgary Colorado trade yesterday. You hardly hear any rumors regarding legit trades that go down.
- rangerdanger94

I expect DZ to get traded before Staal imo

Craig Custance listed DZ as a trade candidate this weekend ....

Craig Custance listed DZ as a trade candidate this weekend ....
- pcjr307

I don't know how that could be a surprise to anyone.

we have 4 lefty shots on the blueline, if all are healthy and we have holes in other areas, if the right trade comes along, the only person who should be considered untouchable is McDonagh.

Craig Custance listed DZ as a trade candidate this weekend ....
- pcjr307

Hah... well there ya go.

I dont mind trading DZ because we have McDonagh and Moore who I think will be a much bigger presence for us offensively this year.

I just hope whatever they do, they include the rights to MZA.

Hah... well there ya go.

I dont mind trading DZ because we have McDonagh and Moore who I think will be a much bigger presence for us offensively this year.
- aecliptic

Yea dz is expendable. I have a feeling in the back of my mind that we'll regret it later though.

Yea dz is expendable. I have a feeling in the back of my mind that we'll regret it later though.
- rangerdanger94

It all depends on who we get back in the trade... if we get the #5 pick and draft Nichushkin, then trust me, we wont regret it.

I don't know how that could be a surprise to anyone.

we have 4 lefty shots on the blueline, if all are healthy and we have holes in other areas, if the right trade comes along, the only person who should be considered untouchable is McDonagh.
- jimbro83

I'd rather keep DZ if possible. 22 yrs old lots of experience already. I think he will do well under Vigneault and an actually decent Power play structure. Unless its for something great in return, ill pass.

I'd rather keep DZ if possible. 22 yrs old lots of experience already. I think he will do well under Vigneault and an actually decent Power play structure. Unless its for something great in return, ill pass.
- pcjr307

You would rather keep dz over mcdonagh, girardi, staal, or moore?

You would rather keep dz over mcdonagh, girardi, staal, or moore?
- rangerdanger94

No offense but Moore really hasnt done anything to prove that hes better than DZ. We only have a small sample size to work with. Yes hes an amazing skater and amazing with the puck, but we need to see more of Moore before we say that.

You would rather keep dz over mcdonagh, girardi, staal, or moore?
- rangerdanger94

Obviously you'd like to keep them all but if the Rangers do make a trade I'm assuming one of them will be going the other way. McDonagh would be my only untouchable out of the group. I'm not saying dont trade him or he's untouchable just I think he will really progress under a more offensive system with Vigneault and would rather keep him if possible.

No offense but Moore really hasnt done anything to prove that hes better than DZ. We only have a small sample size to work with. Yes hes an amazing skater and amazing with the puck, but we need to see more of Moore before we say that.
- aecliptic

but DZ has more trade value than Moore

I think DZ is definitely a good trade chip, and I think he is definitely on the table

but of course, only the right deal

No offense but Moore really hasnt done anything to prove that hes better than DZ. We only have a small sample size to work with. Yes hes an amazing skater and amazing with the puck, but we need to see more of Moore before we say that.
- aecliptic

That's a fair argument. I love moores skating and confidence and his shot. Mdz doesn't really have any of that. Its worth noting that moore was taking over mdzs minutes in the playoffs.

but DZ has more trade value than Moore

I think DZ is definitely a good trade chip, and I think he is definitely on the table

but of course, only the right deal
- jimbro83

Yes of course, the return for DZ would obviously be more than Moore. I think Staal, Girardi, McDonagh and Moore are all capable of putting up 35+ points from the blue line with Vignault.

And lets not forget we still have Stralman who has a pretty sneaky shot.

This sort of applies to us

Bruce Garrioch (@SunGarrioch) tweeted at 1:18 PM on Fri, Jun 28, 2013:
Senators aren't having any success trying to move up in the draft. I'm told asking prices are "insane". #Sens

Am I the only one pretty comfortable with the same team and seeing what AV can do with it? Only big move I'd consider is the staal skinner one we are kicking around. I want to see what guys like Kreider, dz, hags, etc can do under this coach. Anyone expect burrows to be a 30 goal scorer? Or Kessler or elder to become what they did? This team may blossom with this coach and I'm excited to see it.

Reason I'm for a staal trade is we proved we aren't any worse defensively without him. Skinner is so young and can really be the addition to this young core we need. Make that move. Buyout Richards. Tweak the bottom 6 (dump pyatt add some one else). And add a dman for the 5-6 spot and drop the puck.

DZ zucc and fast for the #5 pick and draft nishuskin?

Am I the only one pretty comfortable with the same team and seeing what AV can do with it? Only big move I'd consider is the staal skinner one we are kicking around. I want to see what guys like Kreider, dz, hags, etc can do under this coach. Anyone expect burrows to be a 30 goal scorer? Or Kessler or elder to become what they did? This team may blossom with this coach and I'm excited to see it.

Reason I'm for a staal trade is we proved we aren't any worse defensively without him. Skinner is so young and can really be the addition to this young core we need. Make that move. Buyout Richards. Tweak the bottom 6 (dump pyatt add some one else). And add a dman for the 5-6 spot and drop the puck.
- mrhattrick27

Just keep in mind, hes going to open up the offense and loosen up the defense. So were trading, possibly, one of our top shut down guys and leaving one of our most questionable defensive guys.

DZ zucc and fast for the #5 pick and draft nishuskin?
- webleedblue

I dont think thats going to be enough to get #5, gotta include next years 1st round pick.

Am I the only one pretty comfortable with the same team and seeing what AV can do with it? Only big move I'd consider is the staal skinner one we are kicking around. I want to see what guys like Kreider, dz, hags, etc can do under this coach. Anyone expect burrows to be a 30 goal scorer? Or Kessler or elder to become what they did? This team may blossom with this coach and I'm excited to see it.

Reason I'm for a staal trade is we proved we aren't any worse defensively without him. Skinner is so young and can really be the addition to this young core we need. Make that move. Buyout Richards. Tweak the bottom 6 (dump pyatt add some one else). And add a dman for the 5-6 spot and drop the puck.
- mrhattrick27

I'm not sure the coach will make all the difference. I think we will score more with him but I worry in the playoffs we will still get manhandled more then likely. Players that would prevent that still need to be brought in here

Am I the only one pretty comfortable with the same team and seeing what AV can do with it? Only big move I'd consider is the staal skinner one we are kicking around. I want to see what guys like Kreider, dz, hags, etc can do under this coach. Anyone expect burrows to be a 30 goal scorer? Or Kessler or elder to become what they did? This team may blossom with this coach and I'm excited to see it.

Reason I'm for a staal trade is we proved we aren't any worse defensively without him. Skinner is so young and can really be the addition to this young core we need. Make that move. Buyout Richards. Tweak the bottom 6 (dump pyatt add some one else). And add a dman for the 5-6 spot and drop the puck.
- mrhattrick27

we have mcilrath for the 5-6 spot i believe and skinner and zucc would make us way to small would rather have their first round pick but not at the cost of staal

I dont think thats going to be enough to get #5, gotta include next years 1st round pick.
- aecliptic

would be ok with that if we get nishuskin here it would probably be 25-30th spot so why not

but DZ has more trade value than Moore

I think DZ is definitely a good trade chip, and I think he is definitely on the table

but of course, only the right deal
- jimbro83

I think MDZ has very good trade value, so I agree with you. In almost trade negotiation, the other team asks for MDZ, and the Rangers, until this point have been resistant. I think he can bring back a pretty decent hall, probably more than what most people think.

I think we tend to underrated some of our establish players, as to what their value on the trade market is, but at the same time, maybe overrate some of our prospects. We are different group here, because most fanbases way overrate their players in hypothetical trade debates.

I think MDZ has very good trade value, so I agree with you. In almost trade negotiation, the other team asks for MDZ, and the Rangers, until this point have been resistant. I think he can bring back a pretty decent hall, probably more than what most people think.

I think we tend to underrated some of our establish players, as to what their value on the trade market is, but at the same time, maybe overrate some of our prospects. We are different group here, because most fanbases way overrate their players in hypothetical trade debates.
- Pete V

So why not talk to Tronna bout JVR?

If theyre intersted in Letang, theyve gotta be interested in DZ as well.

DZ grew up a big Tronna fan, JVR grew up a big Rangers fan... it only makes sense.

So why not talk to Tronna bout JVR?

If theyre intersted in Letang, theyve gotta be interested in DZ as well.

DZ grew up a big Tronna fan, JVR grew up a big Rangers fan... it only makes sense.
- aecliptic

interesting

1:28PM: On TSN, Darren Dreger said that the expectation was for the Rangers to follow in the same path as Tampa Bay did, with Vinny Lecavalier, and buy out Richards but that things have changed a bit and that his sense is that the Rangers are going to announce that they are NOT buying out Richards.

He says that the Rangers seem like they are willing to allow Richards to prove he is as motivated as he says he is to return to being a top player.