This be a deal where i wouldn't be upset if we moved back. Yeah potential to miss out on a great player. But we would then own the 22nd, 28th,& 39th picks. With this being a deep draft this scenario would be appealing.
- NickA

Lets do this...

This is a little bit silly.

When they were trading these picks over the last year and half do you really think they had no idea how deep the draft was???

They do this for a living. They understood what they were giving up and they made the decision to move forward.

Trading the 9th pick and passing up an opportunity to replace Parise (WITHOUT SPENDING A LOT OF CAP SPACE FOR 3-5 YEARS!) just so you can add depth to the farm system doesnt make sense for a team that is not rebuilding.

If anything, I think it is more likely that they take everything into account (including that they dont have a 1st rounder next year) and move up in the draft, rather than down.
- njdevils350

Thank you, agree 100%. But don't wanna poop on Todd because he always does a great job of putting out blogs when there is hardly anything to blog about. Good work, Todd.

I'd trade down. What i really want is for the devils to get a 2nd line winger and Zach Fucale

Gonna have to say no. I personally want the Devils to get Hunter Shinkaruk. I dont know if he would be available later than the top 10. He is a left wing / center which is very beneficial. There is also Frederik Gauthier but he might also be selected in the top 10. The problem is we wont know until it actually happens. Next year we wont have a pick in the first round no matter how bad we do this year because of Kovalchuk's contract. So for this year I would not move down.
- matty_ice_30

No way in hell Gauthier goes that early. I would even be surprised if Hunter went top 10. (but with Feaster you never know)

Thank you, agree 100%. But don't wanna poop on Todd because he always does a great job of putting out blogs when there is hardly anything to blog about. Good work, Todd.
- TheJerseyDevil1

Yeah the blogs title is "Why the NJD should consider trading down". I don't think they should trade down either but it is interesting to think about. In 2003 the ducks had the 19th and 28th pick and got Getzlaf and Perry...Arguably the best players in the draft. That's something to consider. Where as all stars like Zherdev, Kostitsyn, Jessiman, Nilsson, Coburn, Michalek, and Fluery where all top 10 picks.

I'd trade down. What i really want is for the devils to get a 2nd line winger and Zach Fucale
- Twist

dont have time to develop another goalie, Marty is done after this year and its either the three we have now or we look for outside help.

No way in hell Gauthier goes that early. I would even be surprised if Hunter went top 10. (but with Feaster you never know)
- whipper334

Look at his numbers though. Last year GP 62 G 22 A 38 P 60. Two years ago GP 39 G 26 A 25 P 51. He can play left or right wing and is ranked 8th overall.

Look at his numbers though. Last year GP 62 G 22 A 38 P 60. Two years ago GP 39 G 26 A 25 P 51. He can play left or right wing and is ranked 8th overall.
- matty_ice_30

I agree he's going to be a good player but size is a little bit of an issue and look at what you may pass on by taking him that early. All that said it might be a risk worth taking.

Yeah the blogs title is "Why the NJD should consider trading down". I don't think they should trade down either but it is interesting to think about. In 2003 the ducks had the 19th and 28th pick and got Getzlaf and Perry...Arguably the best players in the draft. That's something to consider. Where as all stars like Zherdev, Kostitsyn, Jessiman, Nilsson, Coburn, Michalek, and Fluery where all top 10 picks.
- NickA

More examples Eriksson 32, Bergeron 45th, Backes 62nd, Pavelski 205th, Byfuglin 245th....So i'd say trading down is a completely viable and smart option to at least consider. Could even be the right thing to do considering the whole (frank) you Devils the NHL is giving us by stealing our 1st rd pick for doing the same thing many other teams have done.

More examples Eriksson 32, Bergeron 45th, Backes 62nd, Pavelski 205th, Byfuglin 245th....So i'd say trading down is a completely viable and smart option to at least consider. Could even be the right thing to do considering the whole (frank) you Devils the NHL is giving us by stealing our 1st rd pick for doing the same thing many other teams have done.
- NickA

Wow I didn't remember Byf going 245th

It's sad, us getting our pick stolen away like that. Lou blatantly tried to expose the system for what it was in such an outlandish way that he was punished for pretty much embarrassing the NHL higher ups. Like you said, how we could be punished for doing exactly what the Isles did with Ricky D and the Bolts with Vinny and list keeps going and going...

Wow I didn't remember Byf going 245th

It's sad, us getting our pick stolen away like that. Lou blatantly tried to expose the system for what it was in such an outlandish way that he was punished for pretty much embarrassing the NHL higher ups. Like you said, how we could be punished for doing exactly what the Isles did with Ricky D and the Bolts with Vinny and list keeps going and going...
- FloridianDevil

How about the (frank)ing cup champs and there Hossa deal...Look at how much he gets paid its pathetic. He's a top 10 player in the league and makes less then so many scrubs.

How about the (frank)ing cup champs and there Hossa deal...Look at how much he gets paid its pathetic. He's a top 10 player in the league and makes less then so many scrubs.
- NickA

Exactly, and WE'RE the cap circumventors deserving of punishment so severe of a 1st round pick.

More examples Eriksson 32, Bergeron 45th, Backes 62nd, Pavelski 205th, Byfuglin 245th....So i'd say trading down is a completely viable and smart option to at least consider. Could even be the right thing to do considering the whole (frank) you Devils the NHL is giving us by stealing our 1st rd pick for doing the same thing many other teams have done.
- NickA

I understand your point, as well as the concept of trading down. However, I think it's worht noting that those are all names pulled from the 2003 NHL draft, widely considered one of the best in the history of the league.

Too bad NJ passed on Bergeron for Vrana.

If they didnt lose Parise last year, fail to replace him, and have no opportunity to replace him through free agency now.....then I think a better argument can be made for moving down.

As it stands now, 9th or higher appears to be a neccessity.

Staying put at 9 is perfectly fine by me. You cannot lose in the top 10 of this class. That being said, the only 1st round picks I'm willing to make any moves for is for someone's first next season, something we're sorely going to miss. Beating a dead horse here but, unless we can stack up 1st's this year like how the Flames have, it won't be enough to supplement what we're going to need moving forward. There's one other option. Look to another team who is rebuilding, isn't in our division, and needs another 1st this year. Say, Buffalo. Who seems to have a certain 29 year old stud of a LW that we could certainly use.
- FloridianDevil

I can see that but why give up the ninth for a 29 year old Vanek other then the fact that buffalo is looking to get another top 10 pick. I would much rather go after someone 22-24 like Evander Kane or someone along those lines who still has room to grow but is already a 30 goal scorer and LW and a somewhat of a power forward he is still going to get a bit bigger and from what I can remember he is signed to a pretty reasonable deal

I can see that but why give up the ninth for a 29 year old Vanek other then the fact that buffalo is looking to get another top 10 pick. I would much rather go after someone 22-24 like Evander Kane or someone along those lines who still has room to grow but is already a 30 goal scorer and LW and a somewhat of a power forward he is still going to get a bit bigger and from what I can remember he is signed to a pretty reasonable deal
- blizzzard

I understand your point completely, I was just listing a single player that would work. Kane would be brilliant. Just a matter of finding one of these players, and then getting a possible deal out of it too. We just need a top 6 winger asap and I don't see any incredibly amazing in the FA pool that would be a part of our long term agenda. I just like Vanek a lot

Your blog makes sense. The devils are in trouble with terrible prospects and losing players to free agency. Trading away 9th for 2 1st rd picks wouldn't be a bad idea.
Given Mantha and Morin might go between 15 and 25. Devils need some depth on ice and in the system. If it wasn't for Lou being one of the best Gms in the modern era this team would be a laughing stock.

I understand your point completely, I was just listing a single player that would work. Kane would be brilliant. Just a matter of finding one of these players, and then getting a possible deal out of it too. We just need a top 6 winger asap and I don't see any incredibly amazing in the FA pool that would be a part of our long term agenda. I just like Vanek a lot
- FloridianDevil

I think will all the buy out hype teams have forgotten about Ryan as well he is a few years older then Kane but still young enough that it would be worth doing

I think will all the buy out hype teams have forgotten about Ryan as well he is a few years older then Kane but still young enough that it would be worth doing
- blizzzard

Ryan would make sense for sure, his family and friends are all near or in Philly. It'd make a lot of sense for him to come to any of the tri-state area teams. I keep hearing Philly for him, now that they've bought out Briere and Bryz I'd say they have the room now. Wonder what the Ducks are asking though since they just resigned Perry and Getz.

We should pick Shinkaruk, but I have another option of what to do. IF we were to trade down I would trade to either Columbus (14th) or Buffalo (16th). According to: http://www.mynhldraft.com/NHL-Mock-Draft/ Shinkaruk could drop to 14th.

I would trade the 9th for the 14/16th, a 3rd this year and their first in 2015.

I say 2015 because if Columbus or Buffalo or the Devils don't make the playoffs in 2015 we would have two chances of winning the draft lottery to draft Connor Mcdavid (he's the next Crosby if you didn't know). Just a suggestion.

Ryan would make sense for sure, his family and friends are all near or in Philly. It'd make a lot of sense for him to come to any of the tri-state area teams. I keep hearing Philly for him, now that they've bought out Briere and Bryz I'd say they have the room now. Wonder what the Ducks are asking though since they just resigned Perry and Getz.
- FloridianDevil

I believe it's a second line center. I just saw somewhere today that Couterior and Schen for the Flyers, are off the table. So, maybe Zajac and something, but than our faceoff percentage would be about .03%

Ryan would make sense for sure, his family and friends are all near or in Philly. It'd make a lot of sense for him to come to any of the tri-state area teams. I keep hearing Philly for him, now that they've bought out Briere and Bryz I'd say they have the room now. Wonder what the Ducks are asking though since they just resigned Perry and Getz.
- FloridianDevil

Even Eberle would be good even though he plays the right wing as well I would explore paying a bit more with our 9th pick for Evander Kane, Bobby Ryan, Jordan Eberle they are young and proven NHL talent you can pick in the top five and still get a bust and with the way this year has gone for the Devils it seems like things aren't going their way so why not turn the tide by getting one of these for sure big time players instead of a potential big time player at 9 or anywhere else in the first round

Even Eberle would be good even though he plays the right wing as well I would explore paying a bit more with our 9th pick for Evander Kane, Bobby Ryan, Jordan Eberle they are young and proven NHL talent you can pick in the top five and still get a bust and with the way this year has gone for the Devils it seems like things aren't going their way so why not turn the tide by getting one of these for sure big time players instead of a potential big time player at 9 or anywhere else in the first round
- blizzzard

I love Eberle. I was so mad when he went 2 picks before we took Tedenby... Whyyyy didn't we try to move up?

I love Eberle. I was so mad when he went 2 picks before we took Tedenby... Whyyyy didn't we try to move up?
- TheJerseyDevil1

I think this is the route that needs to be taken over trading down and getting 2 later firsts. I think its a better idea then picking 9th especially with Vinny getting bought out it changes how the draft will go down now they will likely be taking a center over Drouin to replace Vinny and above anything else its a for sure thing Hunter could become as good as these guys but how long will it take if he is even still there

I believe it's a second line center. I just saw somewhere today that Couterior and Schen for the Flyers, are off the table. So, maybe Zajac and something, but than our faceoff percentage would be about .03%
- Devils9503

might be even worse! But that's not too bad of an asking price really.

I think this is the route that needs to be taken over trading down and getting 2 later firsts. I think its a better idea then picking 9th especially with Vinny getting bought out it changes how the draft will go down now they will likely be taking a center over Drouin to replace Vinny and above anything else its a for sure thing Hunter could become as good as these guys but how long will it take if he is even still there
- blizzzard

I mean landing one of these guys is easier said then done but we finally have a pretty decent trade chip with the 9th overall pick where teams have set the bar ridiculously high to move up add in a prospect and conditional pick or something and it could work. I am more sold on trying this now then drafting an unproven NHL talent