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Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jun 27 @ 3:51 PM ET
A healthy scratch on the Haws is still better than half of our players.
- fidopro

the Heehaws?
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 27 @ 3:51 PM ET
No, your the only one who want to trade Eller. That's the core of the argument here.

I would like Bolland, but I prefer Eller than him. AND I want to keep Plek.

- Popofjc

Well.. I wish we could trade DD for Bolland.. won't work for cap reasons ( the same reason they want to get "rid" of Boland).

Eller's a valuable asset. I really doubt the trade would go down.

If you go get Bolland, he's centering that 3rd line and playing on the PK. Would relieve Plek a bit on the defensive duties. He also contributes an avg of 45 points per season.. not great.. not bad. Not much less than what Eller's best is.

There's a clear log jam without even getting Vinny the Great and doing my dumb move. So trading one of our centers for Bolland made "sense".

Does the deal make sense ? probably not if/when Eller breaks out into a solid 2nd line player.

But with #27 ( that can play another year or even maybe 2 on the wing ) Plek, DD, Eller, White, Dumont, Lebust etcetc... something has got to give.

I'd like to see Eller in a top 2 role. We just can't give him the Center job right now...unless One of Plek or DD gets traded ( and we don't get Vinny).

Plek is a keeper and DD... well we can only hope.

Anyways.. it's all (frank)in speculation on my part...
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jun 27 @ 3:51 PM ET
Bet Bergevin had a plan when he woke up this morning, and then he saw the Lecavalier news... probably said "(frank), not that, not now!"
- Pecafan Fan

fidopro
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Service Temporarily Unavailable, QC
Joined: 08.10.2008

Jun 27 @ 3:52 PM ET
Bet Bergevin had a plan when he woke up this morning, and then he saw the Lecavalier news... probably said "(frank), not that, not now!"
- Pecafan Fan


Not an easy task to trade your small players when most of other GMs also want to get bigger...
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 27 @ 3:54 PM ET

- Oilhab


Seriously, he KNOWS he's gonna hear about it at least until july 6th
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 27 @ 3:54 PM ET
Watch more Hawks games, you'll change your mind. Bolland is better than Eller will ever be.
Replace Gionta by Stalberg, should get you the same production and bigger size for less $$$.

- fidopro

Don't get me wrong, Eller might get you more points...

I still prefer Bolland as my 3rd line center than Eller. \

Forget about Stalberg.. .this club wants to get bigger and tougher.. and they need a player that can replace Gionta's scoring...believe it or not, he's been the best scorer on this team since he arrived ( correct me if Im wrong, maybe Patches beat him)
Oilhab
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Kessel = Selanne - Adam French
Joined: 07.01.2006

Jun 27 @ 3:55 PM ET
Seriously, he KNOWS he's gonna hear about it at least until july 6th
- Pecafan Fan

and beyond when some other team signs him to a deal that would had "fit" under the Habs cap
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 27 @ 3:55 PM ET
Not an easy task to trade your small players when most of other GMs also want to get bigger...
- fidopro


Chicago, ranked 29th in terms of size just won the Stanley cup.

Not saying size doesn't matter, but toughness/grit is more important than size.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 27 @ 3:55 PM ET
Bet Bergevin had a plan when he woke up this morning, and then he saw the Lecavalier news... probably said "(frank), not that, not now!"
- Pecafan Fan



Tabarnak.

This summer's gonna short/long whit all of this.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 27 @ 3:56 PM ET
Chicago, ranked 29th in terms of size just won the Stanley cup.

Not saying size doesn't matter, but toughness/grit is more important than size.

- Pecafan Fan


I agree.

Bolland is smaller than Eller.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 27 @ 3:57 PM ET
I agree.

Bolland is smaller than Eller.

- WaterBoy



Hass.
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 27 @ 3:57 PM ET


Tabarnak.

This summer's gonna short/long whit all of this.

- WaterBoy

July 6th is only 10 days from now. Things will be back to their quiet/boring state in 2 weeks.
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 27 @ 3:58 PM ET
Seriously, he KNOWS he's gonna hear about it at least until july 6th
- Pecafan Fan


and at the training camp, when he'll get asked repeatedly why he didn't sign him.

Poor guy...Habs win the North-East division and now this.

Way to (frank) with a plan.
Popofjc
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Quebec City, QC
Joined: 02.16.2009

Jun 27 @ 3:58 PM ET
Well.. I wish we could trade DD for Bolland.. won't work for cap reasons ( the same reason they want to get "rid" of Boland).

Eller's a valuable asset. I really doubt the trade would go down.

If you go get Bolland, he's centering that 3rd line and playing on the PK. Would relieve Plek a bit on the defensive duties. He also contributes an avg of 45 points per season.. not great.. not bad. Not much less than what Eller's best is.

There's a clear log jam without even getting Vinny the Great and doing my dumb move. So trading one of our centers for Bolland made "sense".

Does the deal make sense ? probably not if/when Eller breaks out into a solid 2nd line player.

But with #27 ( that can play another year or even maybe 2 on the wing ) Plek, DD, Eller, White, Dumont, Lebust etcetc... something has got to give.

I'd like to see Eller in a top 2 role. We just can't give him the Center job right now...unless One of Plek or DD gets traded ( and we don't get Vinny).

Plek is a keeper and DD... well we can only hope.

Anyways.. it's all (frank)in speculation on my part...

- WaterBoy


I've seen a lot of arguments from people to move DD on the wings permanently. It would need some testing next year to see if he would still be effective there, but that could give the spot we would need for other centers.

DD is more of a playmaker than a scorer, but not being at center would free him of some defensive responsibilities, which we'll admit he's not really great at. He could still be primary a playmaker in the offensive zone, but leave the more physical part of the center job (like forechecking) to somebody more sized to the task.
Pecafan Fan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Pacioretty, c'est mou comme d'la marde - Gilbert Delorme
Joined: 01.20.2009

Jun 27 @ 3:59 PM ET
I agree.

Bolland is smaller than Eller.

- WaterBoy


Just look at Andrew Shaw. He plays much bigger than his 5'10 would lead you to believe.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 27 @ 3:59 PM ET
July 6th is only 10 days from now. Things will be back to their quiet/boring state in 2 weeks.
- Symba007

Not if Vinny takes a stupid low contract to play in TO or Ott or wherever da (frank).

We'll be talking about today and july5th for years to come.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 27 @ 4:00 PM ET
Just look at Andrew Shaw. He plays much bigger than his 5'10 would lead you to believe.
- Pecafan Fan

Agreed. Feisty player.

I love his pix of him lifting the cup with cuts and bruises.... typical "Canadian hockey player"
Symba007
Montreal Canadiens
Location: I'm bi. Why limit yourself with half of the possible delicious pleasures of life - Fredo, ON
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 27 @ 4:00 PM ET
Not if Vinny takes a stupid low contract to play in TO or Ott or wherever da (frank).

We'll be talking about today and july5th for years to come.

- WaterBoy

http://farm8.staticflickr...52184012_2be2601250_b.jpg
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:01 PM ET
July 6th is only 10 days from now. Things will be back to their quiet/boring state in 2 weeks.
- Symba007


Can't wait to see people whine because Bergevin didn't signed anybody on July 1st
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:02 PM ET
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7432/9152184012_2be2601250_b.jpg
- Symba007


dt99999
Montreal Canadiens
Location: wow, hope that's sarcasim
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:02 PM ET
you're like children
hon_hon_hon
Montreal Canadiens
Location: @hon_hon_hon# re #price @habs I hope @# they call @# him up. -@#hon_hon_hon #@#! #112v #k#1r3@
Joined: 04.09.2012

Jun 27 @ 4:03 PM ET
Habs suck. They won't make the playoffs next year.
WaterBoy
Location: Gardez-le votre ANGLAIS, YT
Joined: 06.27.2006

Jun 27 @ 4:03 PM ET
I've seen a lot of arguments from people to move DD on the wings permanently. It would need some testing next year to see if he would still be effective there, but that could give the spot we would need for other centers.

DD is more of a playmaker than a scorer, but not being at center would free him of some defensive responsibilities, which we'll admit he's not really great at. He could still be primary a playmaker in the offensive zone, but leave the more physical part of the center job (like forechecking) to somebody more sized to the task.

- Popofjc


That's a big IF. Wouldn't mind if he's good there.

Would make our wingers small.... unless you move Gionta
stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:03 PM ET
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7432/9152184012_2be2601250_b.jpg
- Symba007


you should add this one just under

stinger67
Montreal Canadiens
Location: QC
Joined: 07.03.2008

Jun 27 @ 4:03 PM ET
Habs suck. They won't make the playoffs next year.
- hon_hon_hon


Gallagher and Galchenyuk with the sophomore slump
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