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b_mysterio
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Kitchener, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:57 PM ET
I'm pretty sure coaching staff and medical staff wouldn't of allowed him to play unless he was 100 percent. Lu played 2 solid games albeit in a losing effort but gave your team a chance to win. Why would you take him out of the net for an injured goalie?

That makes sense.

- Sheppy99


uhh players play injured in the playoffs all the time, poor bergeron had a broken rib, torn cartilledge, punctured lung and seperated shoulder and was still playing in the final game
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 27 @ 1:58 PM ET
Jesus, how bad is Luongo that a hurt Schneider is a better alternative?
- Sheppy99


Past two playoffs luongo played great
Probably best Canuck in both series
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 27 @ 1:59 PM ET
I think management wanted to go out with their future guy not Lu ... If Cory was hurt then AV can go with Lu unless he is told otherwise

To me win now is luongo
Win in future is Cory

schnieder has not done enough
Lu has

- Redmile247


You might think that, but what I am saying is what's been reported by the most reliable reporters in Vancouver. AV started Cory in games 3 and 4, management wanted Luongo to start games 3 and 4. This is not a guess or an opinion.

An opinion is that I think Schneider is, when healthy (cause what goalie is any good when not healthy) one of the top 5 goalies in hockey and represents both the best opportunity to win now and in the future. He absolutely does not have Luongo's resume yet, but that's a matter of his situation, not his ability.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 1:59 PM ET
Uhhh, not your goalie when you have a viable alternative in Luongo. Luongo was playing solid but the better option was a hurt Schneider? come on, give your head a shake.
- Sheppy99

The coach makes the decision and he's gone now, give your head a shake. Why do leaf fans care so much about the Canucks?
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jun 27 @ 2:00 PM ET
uhh players play injured in the playoffs all the time, poor bergeron had a broken rib, torn cartilledge, punctured lung and seperated shoulder and was still playing in the final game
- b_mysterio

we are talking about a goalie, not a first line center.

You have two #1 goalies supposedly and you go with the injured one?

The point is, Schneider wasn't injured or they would of went with Luongo. It's not like their backup option was Roman Czechmanik
Sheppy99
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.10.2009

Jun 27 @ 2:01 PM ET
ok something has to give.

Either you admit Luongo is god awful cause he isn't a better choice than an injured goalie

Or

You admit that Schneider was 100 percent ready to go and 100 percent healthy as AV stated in the press conference

You can't have it both ways.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 2:03 PM ET
ok something has to give.

Either you admit Luongo is god awful cause he isn't a better choice than an injured goalie

Or

You admit that Schneider was 100 percent ready to go and 100 percent healthy as AV stated in the press conference

You can't have it both ways.

- Sheppy99

Or our fired coach was an idioit. Stop trolling.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 27 @ 2:04 PM ET
Uhhh, not your goalie when you have a viable alternative in Luongo. Luongo was playing solid but the better option was a hurt Schneider? come on, give your head a shake.
- Sheppy99


It wasn't my decision! If he was 100% why wasn't he even on the bench backing up Luongo? Why did he not engage fully in every practice leading up to the games he started? Give your head a shake. A goalie doesn't go from a groin strain that keeps him out of the 1st two games of the playoffs (where it's so severe they have to call up their 4th string goalie who's never played an NHL game before to backup) to being 100% in 2 days.

Also, in case you missed it, the guys who made the decision all got fired.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 27 @ 2:04 PM ET
You might think that, but what I am saying is what's been reported by the most reliable reporters in Vancouver. AV started Cory in games 3 and 4, management wanted Luongo to start games 3 and 4. This is not a guess or an opinion.

An opinion is that I think Schneider is, when healthy (cause what goalie is any good when not healthy) one of the top 5 goalies in hockey and represents both the best opportunity to win now and in the future. He absolutely does not have Luongo's resume yet, but that's a matter of his situation, not his ability.

- KB3Point0


Ok I can agree with pretty much all that I guess
Top 5 right now is a stretch tho
In a few years I could see it
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 27 @ 2:05 PM ET
ok something has to give.

Either you admit Luongo is god awful cause he isn't a better choice than an injured goalie

Or

You admit that Schneider was 100 percent ready to go and 100 percent healthy as AV stated in the press conference

You can't have it both ways.

- Sheppy99


Option #3: AV was an idiot who got fired.
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 27 @ 2:08 PM ET
Ok I can agree with pretty much all that I guess
Top 5 right now is a stretch tho
In a few years I could see it

- Redmile247


His numbers say that he absolutely is a top 5 goalie right now. I guess you could make an argument for a couple other guys, but his numbers have been more consistent (and better) over the past 3 seasons than most of them.
robpat
Vancouver Canucks
Location: BC
Joined: 06.03.2012

Jun 27 @ 2:10 PM ET
Disagree entirely. While I would still be surprised if they can't trade him, if they are unable to trade him then buying him out DOES show the fans of Vancouver they're willing to do what it takes to win. Shelling out $24M is a HUGE investment to ensure the team does remain competitive for the foreseeable future.
- KB3Point0


I don't disagree with that entirely if they can then turn around and accualy do something to improve this team.

Look I said it yesterday the fans and the "insiders" have no idea what's going on within the orginization none whatsoever. The only people that do are the people running the team. As a life long fan of this team I hope they can execute the plan they have to win a cup or this team will be rebuilding sooner rather then later.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:10 PM ET
Did someone say Luongo
- Panthers88

Nope. All quiet here.
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:11 PM ET
I think management wanted to go out with their future guy not Lu ... If Cory was hurt then AV can go with Lu unless he is told otherwise

To me win now is luongo
Win in future is Cory

schnieder has not done enough
Lu has

- Redmile247


Look at Schneider's stats the last 3yrs. Rivals any stat you can dig up from Luongo's entire career. Schneider is entering his prime. Luongo is exiting his prime. Infront of the same team, same D, same system, Schneider has outperformed Lu for 3 years now.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:12 PM ET
You have the worst GM in hockey...... it really will be no surprise if Luongo is bought out to anyone in the league other than Gillis and maybe some of the fans.

The reason Gillis doesn't want to acknowledge it needing to be done is cause he realizes it will be the nail in his coffin as far as his job goes. If you had a new GM who wasn't responsible for that contract, Lu would already be on that buyout list.

Right now all it is, is a GM trying to save face at the expense of the Canucks and their fans.

- Sheppy99

I thought you weren't trying to troll?
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:12 PM ET
Leafs are getting Letang... As well as Clarkson and Ryan.
- Scooby_Doo


As well as :

Getzlaf
Perry
Nash
Oduya
Commodore
Richards
Doughty
Giroux
Clowe
Jagr
Iginla


... did I miss any other e3s and e4s that also went to crap?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 2:13 PM ET
I don't disagree with that entirely if they can then turn around and accualy do something to improve this team.

Look I said it yesterday the fans and the "insiders" have no idea what's going on within the orginization none whatsoever. The only people that do are the people running the team. As a life long fan of this team I hope they can execute the plan they have to win a cup or this team will be rebuilding sooner rather then later.

- robpat

Really?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 27 @ 2:13 PM ET
Option #3: AV was an idiot who got fired.
- KB3Point0


I agree AV did some questionable things but I fear for Canucks fans that come this time this year AV will be the one laughing
He kinda landed into a pretty good situation
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 2:15 PM ET
I thought you weren't trying to troll?
- Marwood

He can't help it it's in his nature. How's the weather up island?
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:16 PM ET
Whats with all the trolls today? Slow news day? Raining in Toronto?
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

Jun 27 @ 2:16 PM ET
As well as :

Getzlaf
Perry
Nash
Oduya
Commodore
Richards
Doughty
Giroux
Clowe
Jagr
Iginla


... did I miss any other e3s and e4s that also went to crap?

- Beatle_john

Luongo.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 27 @ 2:16 PM ET
He can't help it it's in his nature. How's the weather up island?
- A_SteamingLombardi

Monsoon like. Animals are in pairs, should I be worried?
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:17 PM ET
He can't help it it's in his nature. How's the weather up island?
- A_SteamingLombardi



Damn you! I always laugh when I see your name! It's like a unconscious response now.
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 27 @ 2:17 PM ET
His numbers say that he absolutely is a top 5 goalie right now. I guess you could make an argument for a couple other guys, but his numbers have been more consistent (and better) over the past 3 seasons than most of them.
- KB3Point0


Until Cory plays entire seasons as number one and entire playoffs you can't compare his numbers against legit starters league wide
I'm not saying he won't be top 5 cuz looking at his sample so far he has put up those kinda of numbers ... But not over an 82 game schedule
Beatle_john
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Corner of Kirk Maclean's Toe and Robert Reichel's face.
Joined: 01.09.2006

Jun 27 @ 2:17 PM ET
Luongo.
- A_SteamingLombardi

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