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Popcorn Kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:43 AM ET
Guess you haven't followed along. Gillis has said a number of times that there will be no buyouts.
- IanEsplen



Gillis is a moron
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:44 AM ET
Do you have a source for this? I've looked and can't find Gillis actually quoted saying this. Not disputing but it would be helpful to have a link to a quote when I make same argument.
- bloatedmosquito


I believe he said it the other day at the Torts Presser and after the season was done.
Canuckfan2006
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.24.2006

Jun 27 @ 10:46 AM ET
Add another pick, 2nd rd-2014 ....sweetin the deal....getter done im sure the pick will come out of the LUO trade at some point..
215mike
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.25.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:47 AM ET
Lets say they pay Letang his 7mil per year. Him Crosby and Malkin will take up 24.4mil cap hit per year for lets say the next 6-7yrs.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:47 AM ET
Lol -- pull the trigger and trade Luongo. Hasn't he been trying to do that for the past year? Nobody is going to take on that contract and the recapture liabilities that could be a lot higher than what you project.

Buy him out or let him continue to tweet from the bench for another eight years.

- Canada Cup


Shouldn't you be worried about your own team's albatross contract in Phaneuf ?
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:49 AM ET
Shouldn't you be worried about your own team's albatross contract in Phaneuf ?
- bloatedmosquito



Yeah all one year of that contract is quite an albatross. Do you even try any more?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:50 AM ET
Gillis is a moron
- Popcorn Kid


I love that you guys put Nonis on a pedestal. After a few seasons you guys will be calling for his head.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:50 AM ET
Well Torts is a pretty big Luongo fan. Maybe Cory gets moved.
- IanEsplen


Interesting. Not like Vancouver doesn't have plenty of options, of course, just wonder who the cap might make available.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:50 AM ET
Yeah all one year of that contract is quite an albatross. Do you even try any more?
- Canada Cup


No...
Bluechip23
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:51 AM ET
I love that you guys put Nonis on a pedestal. After a few seasons you guys will be calling for his head.
- bloatedmosquito


Nonis has always been the guy riding on Burke's coat tails. He has just followed burkie around to both jobs. That Leaf team was essentially built by Burke.
Antilles
St Louis Blues
Joined: 10.17.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:52 AM ET
Lets say they pay Letang his 7mil per year. Him Crosby and Malkin will take up 24.4mil cap hit per year for lets say the next 6-7yrs.
- 215mike


Just think, they could afford Parise, Suter, and Heatley for that sort of cap money!

Popcorn Kid
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 02.21.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:53 AM ET
I love that you guys put Nonis on a pedestal. After a few seasons you guys will be calling for his head.
- bloatedmosquito


Im not putting him on a pedestal..But ya gotta admit Gillis handled the whole Luongo thing wrong from the start
TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:56 AM ET
lol at the offer for Letang starting with Edler and his 5 mil cap hit... Why wouldn't the Pens just shell out another 1.5-2 mil a year and keep Letang? He'll probably get around 7...
LeafsNation91
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 07.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:57 AM ET
How is there no cap in Toronto but cap in Vancouver?

Burke managed the team pretty well under the cap and Leafs still have 2 compliance buyouts.
Boinker
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 10.24.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:58 AM ET
lol at the offer for Letang starting with Edler and his 5 mil cap hit... Why wouldn't the Pens just shell out another 1.5-2 mil a year and keep Letang? He'll probably get around 7...
- TheJerseyDevil1


Edler at 5 million is a steal.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Clit Whisperer
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:59 AM ET
Im not putting him on a pedestal..But ya gotta admit Gillis handled the whole Luongo thing wrong from the start
- Popcorn Kid


You ain't going to get an argument out of me on Gillis' mishandling of Lu. I've said from the beginning Gillis made a commitment to Lu long term so he should have traded Schneids back in 2011 to support our cup run.
Bluechip23
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:59 AM ET
How is there no cap in Toronto but cap in Vancouver?

Burke managed the team pretty well under the cap and Leafs still have 2 compliance buyouts.

- LeafsNation91


I am a huge Burke Supporter. Always have been. He just became this big loud mouth that picked fights with everyone. It started in Van and he continued that crap in TO. But everyone laughed at him when he refused to sign back diving deals and refused to give more than 5 year deals. I respect that he stuck to what he believed in. I wish MG did the same.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:01 AM ET
Nonis has always been the guy riding on Burke's coat tails. He has just followed burkie around to both jobs. That Leaf team was essentially built by Burke.
- Bluechip23


essentially the 2011 canuck team was built by burke and nonis. Gillis just took over and made one good trade (ehrhoff) and then made a series of mistakes that's erroded their depth.
Marwood
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 27 @ 11:02 AM ET
Well Torts is a pretty big Luongo fan. Maybe Cory gets moved.
- IanEsplen

I don't see that happening. I highly doubt that Luongo wants to stay after the shenanigans of the past year.

Luongo = buy out.
Bluechip23
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 07.22.2012

Jun 27 @ 11:02 AM ET
essentially the 2011 canuck team was built by burke and nonis. Gillis just took over and made one good trade (ehrhoff) and then made a series of mistakes that's erroded their depth.
- Isles_since_6


Resigning the right players to good contracts is an art form. If it wasnt then every GM could do it. Every GM has great moves and bad moves on their resume.
TheJerseyDevil1
New Jersey Devils
Location: Brick City, NJ
Joined: 10.05.2011

Jun 27 @ 11:03 AM ET
Edler at 5 million is a steal.
- Boinker


So much of a steal that he's being constantly shopped around the league
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:10 AM ET
essentially the 2011 canuck team was built by burke and nonis. Gillis just took over and made one good trade (ehrhoff) and then made a series of mistakes that's erroded their depth.
- Isles_since_6


Don't forget Hamhuis, Samuelsson, Higgins, and Lapierre.

Hamhuis was much more important than Ehrhoff. Higgins and Lapierre were also excellent after they arrived that season. None of the additions cost a roster player, either.

That looks like adding depth to me. Which was possible because of the excellent contracts he got the Sedins, Kesler, and Burrows to sign.

We've been over this before—not sure how many more times it will take to get through...
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 27 @ 11:10 AM ET
Luongo is a buy out, teams will wait it out, Gillis should've dealt him to Toronto when he had the chance, who cares if it was just a 2nd rd pick. I totally agree about Letang, what a mistake the pens are making. I'm a habs fan so I'll offer beaulieu, diaz, 1st and 2nd rd pick!
- kovey27


Buyout or not, there is absolutely no way Gillis should have traded Luongo to Toronto. That is absolutely ridiculous. He's better off buying him out than taking any salary back.
james
Vancouver Canucks
Location: It's true. Our whole teams suc
Joined: 08.24.2006

Jun 27 @ 11:10 AM ET
So much of a steal that he's being constantly shopped around the league
- TheJerseyDevil1


the only people shopping him are bloggers....he just resigned in vancouver long term. he's not going anywhere
KB3Point0
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver
Joined: 06.14.2012

Jun 27 @ 11:13 AM ET
I really cant believe I am about to do this. . .

I agree with the Pen's Fan. . Letang brings a great skill set on the back end, but he makes a fair number of turnovers, takes stupid retaliatory penalties, and his PP running could be better. You can't deny his point production, but if your making 7 mil a year you need to be a player who other teams alter game plans for. Congrats to the 1 Pen's fan who is rational, well played bro.

Luongo- No GM in his right mind would trade for him, Vancouver played chicken with a lot of teams to trade him and they lost, they held his value too high and now they are going to have to buy him out because of business needs, maybe not this year, but probably next year.

- PhillyTruth


No. Luongo has a no trade clause and thought he'd get to go where he wanted.
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