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Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:06 AM ET
Solid work, yet again Gunner!

- HopintheCordoba


Yeah gunner, thanks for kicking ass.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:09 AM ET
You know that old GM adage of sometimes the best move is not making a move.

Well, it isn't always true...

Jeff Marek ‏@JeffMarek now
Lawton had him going to the Habs for Price, Pacioretty, a 1st and either Subban or McDonaugh.


This was in 2009...

Ouch...

- rival22

Lecavalier?
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:10 AM ET
Nah...I wouldn't do that. You're generally nice and funny so no need to throw mud around.

Besides we hadn't gotten out of the 1st or 2nd round in a few years so that mud is more like stones in a glass house.

- HopintheCordoba

...even though you know the mud is in there
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:11 AM ET
Lecavalier?
- Orpik44


ya...

now the team under new ownership, is eating $32 million.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:11 AM ET
Lecavalier?
- Orpik44


Yes indeed. That was a big show of faith. Too bad for Tampa.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 10:12 AM ET
ya...

now the team under new ownership, is eating $32 million.

- rival22


That Canadiens deal that ownership balked on is an all timer
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:15 AM ET
Kunitz, Chris » $3,725,000 $3,850,000 $3,850,000 $3,850,000

The new deal will run until 2016-2017. He will be 37.

That was excellent
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:16 AM ET
Yes indeed. That was a big show of faith. Too bad for Tampa.
- HopintheCordoba

I didn't even know that McDonaugh was a Canadiens prospect.
kill.monsters
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Kansas City, MO
Joined: 05.02.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:18 AM ET
Kunitz, Chris » $3,725,000 $3,850,000 $3,850,000 $3,850,000

The new deal will run until 2016-2017. He will be 37.

That was excellent

- Orpik44

Wow. Hadn't seen it spelled out like that yet. What a great contract!

Odds that we see Dupuis sign an identical contract?
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:19 AM ET
Wow. Hadn't seen it spelled out like that yet. What a great contract!

Odds that we see Dupuis sign an identical contract?

- kill.monsters

Identical in years, yes. Duper probably will get $3-3.5M.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:22 AM ET
Wow. Hadn't seen it spelled out like that yet. What a great contract!

Odds that we see Dupuis sign an identical contract?

- kill.monsters


Have to be better today than yesterday, although he was most adamant about staying. That'd be a very acceptable rate for him. He may even take slightly less. My feeling is that Shero will take good care of him.

3 years $3-3.5 million
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 27 @ 10:23 AM ET
Identical in years, yes. Duper probably will get $3-3.5M.
- Orpik44


On the surface this is true, but Kunitz has been making a hell of a lot more for many years. Duper made peanuts in comparison. He might just wait and see what he can do on the open market.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:24 AM ET
On the surface this is true, but Kunitz has been making a hell of a lot more for many years. Duper made peanuts in comparison. He might just wait and see what he can do on the open market.
- madmike71


I think he's taken care of by Friday afternoon at the latest.
kill.monsters
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Kansas City, MO
Joined: 05.02.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:26 AM ET
On the surface this is true, but Kunitz has been making a hell of a lot more for many years. Duper made peanuts in comparison. He might just wait and see what he can do on the open market.
- madmike71

I think Dupuis could probably get $5 million a year from the right team on the open market. I couldn't blame him for trying, but I'd love to see him stay here. A $10ish million contract at $3.35 a year. I think that's reasonable to expect. Maybe not though.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:26 AM ET
Have to be better today than yesterday, although he was most adamant about staying. That'd be a very acceptable rate for him. He may even take slightly less. My feeling is that Shero will take good care of him.

3 years $3-3.5 million

- HopintheCordoba

And it's funny. His best season ever was his last.

I wonder if Brooksie will get the same threatment.

Orpik, Brooks » $3,750,000

I'd probably extend him a couple more years at his current rate or a little lower ($3.5M maybe). Wouldn't be surprised if that happened. We'll need him for the next 3 years at least.
kill.monsters
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Kansas City, MO
Joined: 05.02.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:26 AM ET
I think he's taken care of by Friday afternoon at the latest.

- HopintheCordoba

I sure hope you're right!
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:28 AM ET
I think Dupuis could probably get $5 million a year from the right team on the open market. I couldn't blame him for trying, but I'd love to see him stay here. A $10ish million contract at $3.35 a year. I think that's reasonable to expect. Maybe not though.
- kill.monsters

We are lucky he's already 34. If he was 30 I could see that happening.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:29 AM ET
Enough with the Bylsma's system. You draw me up a system and show me the x's and o's that has intercepted passes in your own slot and blue line turnovers in the game plan.
- Ryan_Wilson


Amen. The system works fine when the players don't do boneheaded things with the puck in their own zone and around the opposing blueline.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:30 AM ET
And it's funny. His best season ever was his last.

I wonder if Brooksie will get the same threatment.

Orpik, Brooks » $3,750,000

I'd probably extend him a couple more years at his current rate or a little lower ($3.5M maybe). Wouldn't be surprised if that happened. We'll need him for the next 3 years at least.

- Orpik44


I don't know about that. But, if he sticks around another year or two(duration of Martin's contract) then that could work out alright. I think he would take a slight cut too.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:33 AM ET
I don't know about that. But, if he sticks around another year or two(duration of Martin's contract) then that could work out alright. I think he would take a slight cut too.
- HopintheCordoba

Sounds good to me. Him and Martin together is always good to watch.

But Brooksie probably will want to feel the love...show me the money..he could ask for a 2 or 3 year extension easily. Let's wait and see.
sammy87
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: CO
Joined: 05.05.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:34 AM ET
Glad to see Kunitz extended. He brings something that no other forwards bring. Im curious how this affects Dupuis, not that trhe Pens have an "old" forward locked up. Not sure if its wise to have a mid 30's player on each line.

As it becomes more and more obvious, Letang will be dealt....I still think that hurts the team. Nobody knows if Despress can step in and take those minutes or how good the other D prospects may be eventually.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 10:34 AM ET
Amen. The system works fine when the players don't do boneheaded things with the puck in their own zone and around the opposing blueline.
- Emperor Filonius


That being said I think there are tweaks that are necessary. I personally don't care for the amount of "switches" that the Penguins utilize with their d men in their own end but that has nothing to do with Letang's biggest gaffes.

The reason the Penguins utilize those switches is because the coaches put a premium on being aggressive and not allowing the other team's puck carrying players time and space. When the switches go wrong or are slightly delayed things can break down fast.
ChrisMS
Joined: 05.02.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:34 AM ET
That was one of your better blogs Mr. Gunner. While you obvious preferred opinion towards the situation continues to shine through, you did a much better job than some previous blogs presenting both sides of the issue. I would have been applicable to show the regular season statistics as well. I appreciated the effort made to present both sides. Kudos
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 10:35 AM ET
That was one of your better blogs Mr. Gunner. While you obvious preferred opinion towards the situation continues to shine through, you did a much better job than some previous blogs presenting both sides of the issue. I would have been applicable to show the regular season statistics as well. I appreciated the effort made to present both sides. Kudos
- ChrisMS


Regular season hasn't been the problem. Why bother wasting time?

It would be like analyzing Fleury's regular season stats.
Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice.
Joined: 01.18.2007

Jun 27 @ 10:36 AM ET
I'm admittedly kind of suprised by the Kunitz move as Shero hasn't been previously willing to give players multiyear extensions in their mid 30's. That said, considering Kunitz has continually improved his game (and production) every year here and can play with either Sid or Geno, I like it, especially at those numbers. He'd get over $5 mill on the open market. If I had more time and didn't actually have to worry about getting any work done today, I'd do an analysis of Kunitz's productiuon vs salary compared to other players...but my suspicion is Shero just got great value.
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