Orpik44
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Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies! Joined: 06.04.2011
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It's sick to think about Letang in Orange & Black, but they do seem like a team that would be a fit. Only problem is they have no real prospects in their system that would be interesting. I think it would have to start with either Voracek or L Schenn and their 1st. The Flyers will have to overpay to have the Pens send Letang to Philly. - cap1681
You don't want Luke Schenn.
Voracek is the key. Simmonds would be good for our 2nd line too. We'd have to get something substantial from them if we were to trade Letang. |
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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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I thought Philadelphia still had a chance to make the playoffs with 6-8 games in the season. Am I right? - Orpik44
It was as slim a chance as you can get. The Flyers were dead in the water before April, being realistic. |
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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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So I guess it's clear Letang wants out... - whipper334
I think it's clear Letang wants significant compensation with the addition of an NMC. No hometown discounts. I think he'd LOVE to get it from the Pens. I think it's obvious the NMC is a deal killer.
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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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You don't want Luke Schenn.
Voracek is the key. Simmonds would be good for our 2nd line too. We'd have to get something substantial from them if we were to trade Letang. - Orpik44
I don't get the hate for Luke Schenn. Was he that bad in Toronto? I thought he looked pretty good this season. At the very least, his skating is nowhere near as bad as everybody said. |
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Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies! Joined: 06.04.2011
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So I guess it's clear Letang wants out... - whipper334
Whatup Whipper!? How's things going after the David Jones deal?
Hanowski and Agostino will be awesome 3rd/4th liners for you guys |
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Emperor Filonius
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Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice. Joined: 01.18.2007
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So I guess it's clear Letang wants out... - whipper334
I think its clear that Letang wants paid and hasn't come to grips with the fact that asking for perceived full market value + NMC will result in him being traded. Its pretty simple if I'm Shero: I'd tell Letng that 87 and 71 took discounts vs the market to stay here. If he wants to remain a Penguin, he needs to do the same. If he wants to get paid full market value, that's certainly his prerogative, but it won't be happening here. |
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Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies! Joined: 06.04.2011
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I don't get the hate for Luke Schenn. Was he that bad in Toronto? I thought he looked pretty good this season. At the very least, his skating is nowhere near as bad as everybody said. - BulliesPhan87
As a small part of the deal, I'd take him. Not as the core. You have to want Voracek back. Simmonds+ back. |
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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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I think its clear that Letang wants paid and hasn't come to grips with the fact that asking for perceived full market value will result in him being traded. Its pretty simple if I'm Shero: I'd tell Letng that 87 and 71 took discounts vs the market to stay here. If he wants to remain a Penguin, he needs to do the same, if he wants to get paid full market value, that's certainly his prerogative, but it won't be happening here. - Emperor Filonius
If reports are true that Letang is calling other players on other teams..... He has come to grips with being traded. If I had to guess, both sides have known this for a lot longer than we know. |
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Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies! Joined: 06.04.2011
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I think its clear that Letang wants paid and hasn't come to grips with the fact that asking for perceived full market value + NMC will result in him being traded. Its pretty simple if I'm Shero: I'd tell Letng that 87 and 71 took discounts vs the market to stay here. If he wants to remain a Penguin, he needs to do the same. If he wants to get paid full market value, that's certainly his prerogative, but it won't be happening here. - Emperor Filonius
Keep in mind it's not his call I don't like when agents take care of everything and go for the highest amount. Dry and cold. I'm not saying this is Letang's case but it happens a lot of times. Hell, Svoboda and Jagr are examples. |
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cap1681
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Location: Verona, PA Joined: 02.04.2010
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If reports are true that Letang is calling other players on other teams..... He has come to grips with being traded. If I had to guess, both sides have known this for a lot longer than we know. - madmike71
If this is the case, where are the likely landing spots??
I think ANH, EDM, and SJ are all rumored to be interested.
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Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies! Joined: 06.04.2011
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Penguins discussing new deal with Craig Adams.
He's 36 now. Would you be comfortable with a 2 year deal for him?
He's a workhorse and is always fit, just like Dupuis and Cooke.. |
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Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies! Joined: 06.04.2011
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If this is the case, where are the likely landing spots??
I think ANH, EDM, and SJ are all rumored to be interested. - cap1681
Add Vancouver and Montreal to your list. Maybe Colorado. |
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david22
Ottawa Senators |
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Joined: 04.15.2008
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If reports are true that Letang is calling other players on other teams..... He has come to grips with being traded. If I had to guess, both sides have known this for a lot longer than we know. - madmike71
I heard he turned down 7 mill a year. Is this true? If that's the case he's likely to be traded? |
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Ryan Wilson
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Location: Rochester, NY Joined: 06.13.2013
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I don't get the hate for Luke Schenn. Was he that bad in Toronto? I thought he looked pretty good this season. At the very least, his skating is nowhere near as bad as everybody said. - BulliesPhan87
He's a fine #5 and a suitable #4 in a pinch, nothing more, nothing less. |
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Emperor Filonius
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Drinking the tears of the defeated from Lord Stanley's chalice. Joined: 01.18.2007
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Deeply placed sources have provided me with the following correspondence from Pens GM Ray Shero to Letang:
Dear Kris:
I am in receipt of your note rejecting my offer of an 8 year contract worth $54 million USD. This is a relatively simple negotiation. You may have noticed that Sid and Geno agreed to contracts for below market value in order to stay here and keep the core of the team together for most of their careers. Chris Kunitz and James Neal have done the same. If you are intent on getting full market value for your services, that is certainly your prerogative, but you will be doing it somewhere else because I'll be trading you this weekend before the draft. This is just the way it works, ask Jordan Staal. I traded the dude on his wedding day and got some studs in return. I'll be looking forward to hearing from you, otherwise you'll be hearing from me.
Toodles.
Ray. |
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Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies! Joined: 06.04.2011
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I heard he turned down 7 mill a year. Is this true? If that's the case he's likely to be traded? - david22
I heard Ottawa is interested. They'd like to swap Karlsson for him, straight up. They think Letang will be the better player on the long run.. |
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david22
Ottawa Senators |
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Joined: 04.15.2008
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I don't get the hate for Luke Schenn. Was he that bad in Toronto? I thought he looked pretty good this season. At the very least, his skating is nowhere near as bad as everybody said. - BulliesPhan87
I think it's more the trade that brough JVR to toronto people see when they look at him. |
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david22
Ottawa Senators |
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Joined: 04.15.2008
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I heard Ottawa is interested. They'd like to swap Karlsson for him, straight up. They think Letang will be the better player on the long run.. - Orpik44
Let's not get into this debate again. First move for the Pens after that would be to resign Cooke.
I'm just hoping a year of rehab can bring his achilles back up to snuff.
Although, we do have the cap space...
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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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I think it's more the trade that brough JVR to toronto people see when they look at him. - david22
I'm happy with the trade. Maybe I'm just crazy. |
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Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies! Joined: 06.04.2011
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He's a fine #5 and a suitable #4 in a pinch, nothing more, nothing less. - Ryan_Wilson
Precisely. From what I watched, he does not recover fast and is caught out of position many times. He's in my Niskanen list (yes, I invented my own list). Good #5, not good enough to be a top 4. |
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Iggysbff
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Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB Joined: 07.12.2012
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If this is the case, where are the likely landing spots??
I think ANH, EDM, and SJ are all rumored to be interested. - cap1681
No thanks. Not interested.
He's not the type we need. |
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BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers |
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Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz Joined: 07.31.2009
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Precisely. From what I watched, he does not recover fast and is caught out of position many times. He's in my Niskanen list (yes, I invented my own list). Good #5, not good enough to be a top 4. - Orpik44
Schenn's definitely top 4, imo. Not to say he doesn't have more work to do on his game. |
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madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins |
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Location: Pittsburgh, PA Joined: 12.21.2006
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If this is the case, where are the likely landing spots??
I think ANH, EDM, and SJ are all rumored to be interested. - cap1681
Like we discussed last night.... put yourself in his shoes and ask where I want to play the best part of my career?. Start there 'cause he's controlling it.
Then ask, does the acquiring team have the assets, need and $$$ to satisfy both Letang and the Pens?
Then ask, will the Pens deal a very talented player to that team?
I see list of 6 or 7 teams. EDM isn't on it. Love ANH however. |
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Orpik44
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Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies! Joined: 06.04.2011
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I'm happy with the trade. Maybe I'm just crazy. - BulliesPhan87
You're at least sounding like you are.
JVR is top 6 material. Schenn is a bottom pairing with some upside to play 2nd. |
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Orpik44
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Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies! Joined: 06.04.2011
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Schenn's definitely top 4, imo. Not to say he doesn't have more work to do on his game. - BulliesPhan87
He's young. He could develop into top 4, true....I'll give you that |
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