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Sell My Monkey
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States
Joined: 05.02.2008

Jun 28 @ 5:59 AM ET
Yeah..uhh, I'm taking Karlsson ten out of ten times over Letang.
- Blackstrom2


Can you please forward this to Letang?

Hey Kris a Capitals fan thinks you suck compared to Karlsson. Take $6 mill and be happy!
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jun 28 @ 6:26 AM ET
put some up earlier... hey... I just strongly believe in real objectivity. I didn't mean to rag on the quarterback... certainly not to his favorite cheerleader.
- ChrisMS


I am not anyone's cheerleader. We agree on many points. Period. We don't hold hands. Really. Any points besides the one Gunner made that Letang's D side out weighs his O side and makes him not worth 8mil a year?
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 7:00 AM ET
Columbus is on the up have a Vezina goalie, but moving to our division so not happening. Carolina also moving to our division and doesn't have cap space.
- Genev21


Buyout Pitkanen and they do.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 7:01 AM ET
I am not anyone's cheerleader. We agree on many points. Period. We don't hold hands. Really. Any points besides the one Gunner made that Letang's D side out weighs his O side and makes him not worth 8mil a year?
- powerhouse


Don't worry about him. It's not worth it.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 7:02 AM ET
It's whatever now. If shero is certain the cap will rise in 2014, then a deal around 7.25 mil won't be bad, however it's quite above his actual value level.
- drummer829



That would be stupid to do. He isn't worth that regardless with a bigger cap.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 7:03 AM ET
Sharks could be possible. But the one team that would pony up for him is a team that Pitt will likely never do a deal with....

Edmonton doesn't want him for the price. Carolina possibly. But it still comes down to Philly.

- Iggysbff



Philly can't afford him either. Do you think they want 13.25 million invested on PMDs, one of them being a poopty one? Really, take away they one's they aren't dealing, they don't have the pieces. I'm not high at all on the next Ron Francis nor Brayden Schenn. Their farm system sucks, so ...
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 28 @ 7:34 AM ET
If Letang was truly bothered by a Toronto rumor, I can't imagine he's thrilled with Rossi's latest, basically making him look like an emotional headcase.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 8:06 AM ET
If Letang was truly bothered by a Toronto rumor, I can't imagine he's thrilled with Rossi's latest, basically making him look like an emotional headcase.
- rival22



Well, he is.

He rejected that offer that would pay him 7.5 over 8 years, but yet he wants to remain in Pittsburgh? Letang must be the biggest fool. What are the chances Shero says yes to that and has 26 million of cap room for three players? Fact is, he really doesn't want to stay in Pittsburgh. If he did, 6.5 million would have sufficed. He ain't worth 8; hell he ain't worth 7 in my book. Shero gave him a major gift of an offer and he said no.
top shelf 15
Ottawa Senators
Joined: 11.23.2008

Jun 28 @ 8:21 AM ET
Well, he is.

He rejected that offer that would pay him 7.5 over 8 years, but yet he wants to remain in Pittsburgh? Letang must be the biggest fool. What are the chances Shero says yes to that and has 26 million of cap room for three players? Fact is, he really doesn't want to stay in Pittsburgh. If he did, 6.5 million would have sufficed. He ain't worth 8; hell he ain't worth 7 in my book. Shero gave him a major gift of an offer and he said no.

- Oneonta Penguin

No offense but this is pure speculation ,nobody knows what is going on between Shero and Letang .Half of these reports are just crap started by media to drum up interest,he will sign and it wont be for 7 mil a season
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 28 @ 8:29 AM ET
Well, he is.

He rejected that offer that would pay him 7.5 over 8 years, but yet he wants to remain in Pittsburgh? Letang must be the biggest fool. What are the chances Shero says yes to that and has 26 million of cap room for three players? Fact is, he really doesn't want to stay in Pittsburgh. If he did, 6.5 million would have sufficed. He ain't worth 8; hell he ain't worth 7 in my book. Shero gave him a major gift of an offer and he said no.

- Oneonta Penguin


He's being moved... The Pens leaked their offer to either put pressure on Letang or for PR cover when he is moved.

There hasn't been a peep about any offers for Dupuis, and there wasn't for Malkin or Kunitz. Once the offer (and rejection) is out there, it's not gonna end well.

For someone as sensitive as Letang is, he's now screwed unless he over performs. If he signs and stays, first slump he's getting killed because he wanted more $. And if he goes somewhere else as the big money addition, he's gonna be under more scrutiny than he ever was in Pittsburgh.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 8:46 AM ET
No offense but this is pure speculation ,nobody knows what is going on between Shero and Letang .Half of these reports are just crap started by media to drum up interest,he will sign and it wont be for 7 mil a season

- top shelf 15


Stop ... just stop. He rejected a pretty substantial offer and pittsburgh can't go over that. I'm surprised Shero offered that to begin with. He won't be a Penguin. If he is, we will have a major problem.

Crap is having an Ottawa fan saying we need to keep him at any cost.
akane13
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: raleigh
Joined: 01.24.2008

Jun 28 @ 8:46 AM ET
He's being moved... The Pens leaked their offer to either put pressure on Letang or for PR cover when he is moved.

There hasn't been a peep about any offers for Dupuis, and there wasn't for Malkin or Kunitz. Once the offer (and rejection) is out there, it's not gonna end well.

For someone as sensitive as Letang is, he's now screwed unless he over performs. If he signs and stays, first slump he's getting killed because he wanted more $. And if he goes somewhere else as the big money addition, he's gonna be under more scrutiny than he ever was in Pittsburgh.

- rival22



Same thing they did last year. Hard to imagine he's going to be around much longer. And if he hates the media scrutiny/speculation here, he's in for a real treat if he ends up in TOR, for example.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 8:50 AM ET
He's being moved... The Pens leaked their offer to either put pressure on Letang or for PR cover when he is moved.

There hasn't been a peep about any offers for Dupuis, and there wasn't for Malkin or Kunitz. Once the offer (and rejection) is out there, it's not gonna end well.

For someone as sensitive as Letang is, he's now screwed unless he over performs. If he signs and stays, first slump he's getting killed because he wanted more $. And if he goes somewhere else as the big money addition, he's gonna be under more scrutiny than he ever was in Pittsburgh.

- rival22


I don't get the leak thing. Would that not lower the interest even moreso as far as potential suitors? Now the cat is out of the bag. He wants a long term no trade contract worth 8 million per year. That eliminates many teams from consideration.
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Jun 28 @ 8:54 AM ET
Stop ... just stop. He rejected a pretty substantial offer and pittsburgh can't go over that. I'm surprised Shero offered that to begin with. He won't be a Penguin. If he is, we will have a major problem.

Crap is having an Ottawa fan saying we need to keep him at any cost.

- Oneonta Penguin

Even with the contract that Shero offered, how will they have any cap space to sign other players? And I agree, it would be crazy to accept Letang's counter.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 28 @ 8:58 AM ET
I don't get the leak thing. Would that not lower the interest even moreso as far as potential suitors? Now the cat is out of the bag. He wants a long term no trade contract worth 8 million per year. That eliminates many teams from consideration.
- Oneonta Penguin


I don't think it's that big of a deal. Any team who is trading for him is going to want to talk to him or his agent first anyway, so it's likely that they would have an idea then.

Maybe that is why the emotional issues are getting some play? Maybe a team will think that if they roll out the red carpet for him and pump his tires, that they can get him for a little less?

Who knows...
cygnus41
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.23.2012

Jun 28 @ 9:01 AM ET
I don't get the leak thing. Would that not lower the interest even moreso as far as potential suitors? Now the cat is out of the bag. He wants a long term no trade contract worth 8 million per year. That eliminates many teams from consideration.
- Oneonta Penguin


It's PR. The reality is we probably can't afford what Letang is worth. All of the moves scream posturing by Shero to try and get Letang to stay on a deal that fits under the cap.

Letang wants an NMC so he knows he'll be HERE and not in Florida or whatever. He is worth 7M but we don't have that, so Shero has offered him 7M but with the option to move him if things don't work out. Letang had to reject the offer because he WANTS to play in PIT and not a team that's 5 years away from competing. Shero comes out looking like he's offered more than a fair deal and the pressure is on Letang to not look like a Richard and accept a lower offer we can actually afford.

Its not about drumming up interest, its about trying to get Letang to accept an offer we can afford.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:04 AM ET
Even with the contract that Shero offered, how will they have any cap space to sign other players? And I agree, it would be crazy to accept Letang's counter.
- NYI44



I didn't agree with Shero's initial offer at all. It's too much. You look at him square in the eye and ask how much he wants to stay in Pittsburgh. If he says alot, you forward a closed envelope toward him and say this is our offer. 6 years, 6.5 million. You look at him and say its foolish to have 26 million of cap space invested in three players and we ain't trading Crosby or Malkin. He blinks, tell him to get his 45 SPF ready for Florida.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:06 AM ET
It's PR. The reality is we probably can't afford what Letang is worth. All of the moves scream posturing by Shero to try and get Letang to stay on a deal that fits under the cap.

Letang wants an NMC so he knows he'll be HERE and not in Florida or whatever. He is worth 7M but we don't have that, so Shero has offered him 7M but with the option to move him if things don't work out. Letang had to reject the offer because he WANTS to play in PIT and not a team that's 5 years away from competing. Shero comes out looking like he's offered more than a fair deal and the pressure is on Letang to not look like a Richard and accept a lower offer we can actually afford.

Its not about drumming up interest, its about trying to get Letang to accept an offer we can afford.

- cygnus41


It's not just the no trade; he wants the $$$. I don't think if Shero says you get the no trade and what he offered, Letang accepts. That was too fair of a deal Shero offered and it was rejected. Time to deal him. I wouldn't give him time to rethink about where he could be playing this year.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:10 AM ET
It's not just the no trade; he wants the $$$. I don't think if Shero says you get the no trade and what he offered, Letang accepts. That was too fair of a deal Shero offered and it was rejected. Time to deal him. I wouldn't give him time to rethink about where he could be playing this year.
- Oneonta Penguin


He wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants to stay with the Pens, but wants money and a NMC. I think he can have 2 of the 3, depends on what he wants.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 28 @ 9:10 AM ET
I don't get the leak thing. Would that not lower the interest even moreso as far as potential suitors? Now the cat is out of the bag. He wants a long term no trade contract worth 8 million per year. That eliminates many teams from consideration.
- Oneonta Penguin


You're assuming it's only the Pens leaking the info.

I see no harm in Letang's camp leaking his asking price......or the Pens for that matter. It gets rid of the pretenders. Letang is in full control and will virtually pick his landing spot out of a small handful of teams. This is Staal 2.0 without us knowing where he wants to go. I wouldn't be surprised if Shero has already asked Letang where he's willing to play long term. It's been reported that Letang is calling players of other teams asking what it's like in to play for their team.

I also think the NMC is as equally important, if not more so, than the last million of the deal. A good team will offer Letang 7 mil with a full NMC.

madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 28 @ 9:19 AM ET
He wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants to stay with the Pens, but wants money and a NMC. I think he can have 2 of the 3, depends on what he wants.
- cap1681


I think it's pretty obvious, playing for the Pens is 3rd on that list of priorities. You can't blame him for that.
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 28 @ 9:23 AM ET
I think it's pretty obvious, playing for the Pens is 3rd on that list of priorities. You can't blame him for that.
- madmike71


It's hard to swallow a guy wanting to make 7.5 million instead of 7 million or even 6.5 million.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:24 AM ET
He wants to have his cake and eat it too. He wants to stay with the Pens, but wants money and a NMC. I think he can have 2 of the 3, depends on what he wants.
- cap1681


The only thing we can give him is a chance to win the Cup every year and a NMC depending on his price tag. We can't give him a NMC for anything over 6.75 million IMO.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 28 @ 9:24 AM ET
I don't think it's that big of a deal. Any team who is trading for him is going to want to talk to him or his agent first anyway, so it's likely that they would have an idea then.

Maybe that is why the emotional issues are getting some play? Maybe a team will think that if they roll out the red carpet for him and pump his tires, that they can get him for a little less?

Who knows...

- rival22

And let's keep in mind probably Shero didn't give him his desired NMC. Maybe he would sign with us for $6.75-7M if we could give it to him...we don't know for sure what's going on. It's all speculation.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 9:25 AM ET
You're assuming it's only the Pens leaking the info.

I see no harm in Letang's camp leaking his asking price......or the Pens for that matter. It gets rid of the pretenders. Letang is in full control and will virtually pick his landing spot out of a small handful of teams. This is Staal 2.0 without us knowing where he wants to go. I wouldn't be surprised if Shero has already asked Letang where he's willing to play long term. It's been reported that Letang is calling players of other teams asking what it's like in to play for their team.

I also think the NMC is as equally important, if not more so, than the last million of the deal. A good team will offer Letang 7 mil with a full NMC.

- madmike71


I'm not sure he accepts 7 million and a NMC from Pittsburgh.
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