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PENS FAN in CANADA
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Jun 27 @ 11:54 PM ET
First and foremost, the question anybody should ask before proposing any trade scenarios is...

If you were Letang, where would you want to play the best years of your career?

That's all that matters. Letang isn't singing a long term deal in 60 to 70% of markets. This is fact.

If you're the Pens, what teams teams would you refuse to deal with. 2 or 3 of those remaining teams.....we all know who they are. Narrows it down to about 6 or 7 possibilities.

- madmike71


Well put!
cap1681
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Verona, PA
Joined: 02.04.2010

Jun 27 @ 11:55 PM ET
First and foremost, the question anybody should ask before proposing any trade scenarios is...

If you were Letang, where would you want to play the best years of your career?

That's all that matters. Letang isn't singing a long term deal in 60 to 70% of markets. This is fact.

If you're the Pens, what teams would you refuse to deal with. 2 or 3 of those remaining teams.....we all know who they are. Narrows it down to about 6 or 7 possibilities.

- madmike71


I think Letang has shown that he doesn't care where he plays, as long as he gets paid. If he wanted to play for a contender, he would be staying in Pittsburgh.
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 27 @ 11:56 PM ET
I think Letang has shown that he doesn't care where he plays, as long as he gets paid. If he wanted to play for a contender, he would be staying in Pittsburgh.
- cap1681

No you have it all wrong he wants to say in Pittsburg.... for 7.8 million dollars a year
PENS FAN in CANADA
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Jun 27 @ 11:58 PM ET
I think Letang has shown that he doesn't care where he plays, as long as he gets paid. If he wanted to play for a contender, he would be staying in Pittsburgh.
- cap1681


Sounds like he wants the best of both worlds, but leaning towards the money. There will be a team out there that will pay the $$$ and still have a chance to win the cup. Likely not as good as the Pens, but still a realistic chance.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 28 @ 12:00 AM ET
I think Letang has shown that he doesn't care where he plays, as long as he gets paid. If he wanted to play for a contender, he would be staying in Pittsburgh.
- cap1681


You're making the assumption that it's an either/or situation. Letang can simply play out his term and I guarantee you a perennial contender will give him everything he wants.

Shero has his hands full. Letang has only one year left on his contract. He will control where he goes one way or another.
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:01 AM ET
I anyone else concerned how the negotiations of letang and staal have been so public I feel like it takes a lot of leverage away from the pens in trade scenarios.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 12:03 AM ET
You're making the assumption that it's an either/or situation. Letang can simply play out his term and I guarantee you a perennial contender will give him everything he wants.

Shero has his hands full. Letang has only one year left on his contract. He will control where he goes one way or another.

- madmike71


True, however, if I'm Letang, I'd be concerned where I'm traded to. Say, for conversation sake, Calgary. poopty team and his play could get worse by playing on that type of team. He could stand to lose $$$ since its his contract year.
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:03 AM ET
You're making the assumption that it's an either/or situation. Letang can simply play out his term and I guarantee you a perennial contender will give him everything he wants.

Shero has his hands full. Letang has only one year left on his contract. He will control where he goes one way or another.

- madmike71

But by asking for what he is he obviously doesn't care to stay with the pens it's a money thing. I don't blame him I would have the same mindset as an athlete. You have to get what you can while you can.
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:04 AM ET
True, however, if I'm Letang, I'd be concerned where I'm traded to. Say, for conversation sake, Calgary. poopty team and his play could get worse by playing on that type of team. He could stand to lose $$$ since its his contract year.
- Oneonta Penguin

Rebuilding teams wouldn't be trading for letang.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 12:05 AM ET
I anyone else concerned how the negotiations of letang and staal have been so public I feel like it takes a lot of leverage away from the pens in trade scenarios.
- Genev21


Yes, but there are five or six stupid GMs out there thay can't help themselves and would acquire him regardless of the circumstance and cost. The prominent ones are the two on the east and one in Pacific Northwest Canada.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 28 @ 12:06 AM ET
Rebuilding teams wouldn't be trading for letang.
- Genev21


No, but there are teams on the cusp. I don't think he would do well in Columbus. I don't think he would do well in Carolina ... those are two I could see toying with the idea maybe.
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:09 AM ET
No, but there are teams on the cusp. I don't think he would do well in Columbus. I don't think he would do well in Carolina ... those are two I could see toying with the idea maybe.
- Oneonta Penguin

Columbus is on the up have a Vezina goalie, but moving to our division so not happening. Carolina also moving to our division and doesn't have cap space.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 28 @ 12:10 AM ET
True, however, if I'm Letang, I'd be concerned where I'm traded to. Say, for conversation sake, Calgary. poopty team and his play could get worse by playing on that type of team. He could stand to lose $$$ since its his contract year.
- Oneonta Penguin

Maybe. Bowmeester got his payday. Letang will get his.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 28 @ 12:12 AM ET
True, however, if I'm Letang, I'd be concerned where I'm traded to. Say, for conversation sake, Calgary. poopty team and his play could get worse by playing on that type of team. He could stand to lose $$$ since its his contract year.
- Oneonta Penguin


Letang has enough on tape where an acquiring team knows what their getting. Even Feaster wouldn't be dumb enough to make a deal for a guy that probably won't sign there long term.....of course anything is possible with Feaster.

I'm sure most teams know they're getting a great talent. They probably also know that his gaffes are a symptom of the "complex system".

I forget what writer said, the words "Letang" and "complex" shouldn't be used in the same sentence.

Get him a coach with a simple defensive scheme and Tanger will be every bit of top 5 defensman.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 28 @ 12:13 AM ET
Yes, but there are five or six stupid GMs out there thay can't help themselves and would acquire him regardless of the circumstance and cost. The prominent ones are the two on the east and one in Pacific Northwest Canada.
- Oneonta Penguin


I think he would be a solid fit with the ducks or sharks
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 28 @ 12:18 AM ET
I think he would be a solid fit with the ducks or sharks
- drummer829

Absolutely..I do think so too.

Good night fellas.
Iggysbff
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Peter Chiarelli is a fking moron, Calgary, AB
Joined: 07.12.2012

Jun 28 @ 12:19 AM ET
I think he would be a solid fit with the ducks or sharks
- drummer829


Sharks could be possible. But the one team that would pony up for him is a team that Pitt will likely never do a deal with....

Edmonton doesn't want him for the price. Carolina possibly. But it still comes down to Philly.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 28 @ 12:20 AM ET
Just remember its not up to Letang if he wants to stay... Its not up to him if he will take a discount...
PENS FAN in CANADA
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Jun 28 @ 12:33 AM ET
Good read on Letang situation from Elliotte Friedman

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/...ut-of-contract-talks.html
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 28 @ 12:34 AM ET
Sharks could be possible. But the one team that would pony up for him is a team that Pitt will likely never do a deal with....

Edmonton doesn't want him for the price. Carolina possibly. But it still comes down to Philly.

- Iggysbff


Too bad Philly is such big rivals, they have some things the pens could use. But a team like San Jose who is losing Dan Boyle soon would be an awesome fit for letang. If Boyle had a better contract and was signed for another year or 2 he could come back in a trade to help with our prospects. But can't San Jose make a trade with Boyle where they agree to take like half of his salary so instead of being 6.6 cap hit, it would be like 3.3? Like the jokinen deal? Of course they would have to add more but that wouldn't be bad. Always was a fan of boyles
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 28 @ 12:49 AM ET
Too bad Philly is such big rivals, they have some things the pens could use. But a team like San Jose who is losing Dan Boyle soon would be an awesome fit for letang. If Boyle had a better contract and was signed for another year or 2 he could come back in a trade to help with our prospects. But can't San Jose make a trade with Boyle where they agree to take like half of his salary so instead of being 6.6 cap hit, it would be like 3.3? Like the jokinen deal? Of course they would have to add more but that wouldn't be bad. Always was a fan of boyles
- drummer829

Vlasic would have to come back...for sure.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:38 AM ET
Good read on Letang situation from Elliotte Friedman

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/...ut-of-contract-talks.html

- PENS FAN in CANADA

he's an emotional vagina... Seen nothing positive coming out of any interview or rumor... Deal has to get done but I think he's a bit scared of all these prospects coming up in the system. I like the guys game but truth be told I'm not big on his personality at all.
drummer829
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.12.2010

Jun 28 @ 1:44 AM ET
he's an emotional vagina... Seen nothing positive coming out of any interview or rumor... Deal has to get done but I think he's a bit scared of all these prospects coming up in the system. I like the guys game but truth be told I'm not big on his personality at all.
- nelson911


It's whatever now. If shero is certain the cap will rise in 2014, then a deal around 7.25 mil won't be bad, however it's quite above his actual value level.
nelson911
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 02.03.2007

Jun 28 @ 1:55 AM ET
It's whatever now. If shero is certain the cap will rise in 2014, then a deal around 7.25 mil won't be bad, however it's quite above his actual value level.
- drummer829

If they pay him that... Fleury will be gone and they will be doing something along the lines of 4 million cap space for their 2 goalies.

It would be a bit of alright if they can sneak the preds top pick- Barkov, a guy like Klein... And another piece.
Blackstrom2
Washington Capitals
Location: richmond, VA
Joined: 10.11.2010

Jun 28 @ 1:56 AM ET
No I'm saying that Letang's point production is undeniable, but it should be taken with a grain of salt. Over his career he averages a higher ppg than Karrlson, but that doesn't necessarily make him a better player. I was also suggesting that Letang had more to work with so to speak, which makes his stats better. All I'm saying is I don't think Letang is worth much more than Karrlson, if at all.
- TomKlassen



Yeah..uhh, I'm taking Karlsson ten out of ten times over Letang.
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