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powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jun 27 @ 10:43 PM ET
Like Deadstar said, business is business. Penguins are lucky to have the people in charge that they do. They understand asset management.
- Ryan_Wilson


8 mil is too much IMO. If he was invaluable and a true part of the solution I would say, of course. But truthfully he is a luxury that can afford to do without at that price. His offensive upside is upended by his poor judgment and decisions with the puck. I for one am tired of yelling KRIS at the TV year after freaking year.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:43 PM ET
TIOPS reporting that Letang wants 8mil with a full NTC. The Pens offer did not include a NTC. The NTC is a deal killer for the Pens.

Tanger is a goner... Shame, but can't blame either side.

- madmike71



$8M is too much!! His trade value will diminish IMO. I really like the guy but I am disappointed.

I have a feeling Bobby Ryan would be just like Letang and would ask for something like $7-8M /year. It's crazy money to just throw around like that.

Is Eberle too much to ask?

As far as D goes, SJ has Vlasic and Vancouver has Edler as options.
Sell My Monkey
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States
Joined: 05.02.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:44 PM ET
insidepittsburghsports.com says letang has been doing some checking around the league and high on his list is toronto and gulp, the flyers. I would puke if I saw him in a flyer uniform
- bigdaddywaite


I hope Shero uses Letangs list and wipes his A$$ with it. Ship him off to Phoenix or stick him with torts. Better yet get him on the west coast where the travel is the worst.

I mean get the best package you can for him....No Philly. Hell no.
errey12
Joined: 01.16.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:45 PM ET
Tanger countered with 8 yrs., $7.8125 per and a full NTC? Get real!
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 27 @ 10:45 PM ET
insidepittsburghsports.com says letang has been doing some checking around the league and high on his list is toronto and gulp, the flyers. I would puke if I saw him in a flyer uniform
- bigdaddywaite


I would puke too. Fortunately, I don't think the Flyers have the assets that the Pens would covet. I still think, the Pens are going to want a good D in return. I see no way around it, unless they flip an asset that they get back.

Furthermore, the Pens aren't going to provide their biggest rival with a significant missing piece. TIOPS is also reporting that the Ducks are very interested.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:45 PM ET


$8M is too much!! His trade value will diminish IMO. I really like the guy but I am disappointed.

I have a feeling Bobby Ryan would be just like Letang and would ask for something like $7-8M /year. It's crazy money to just throw around like that.

Is Eberle too much to ask?


As far as D goes, SJ has Vlasic and Vancouver has Edler as options.

- Orpik44


We're not taking back a forward with a bigger cap hit than Letang for the coming year. Defenseman maybe. But not forward. I just cant see that happening.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:48 PM ET
insidepittsburghsports.com says letang has been doing some checking around the league and high on his list is toronto and gulp, the flyers. I would puke if I saw him in a flyer uniform
- bigdaddywaite

The Flyers?? It's gotta be damn Talbo calling him....or just a way to pressure management.

Voracek/1st Round Pick for starters if we had to trade him there.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 10:48 PM ET
I don't have a good feel for where Letang would be traded to or what specific assets would come back, but Pittsburgh needed another top 4 d man with Letang on the roster let alone without him.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:52 PM ET
I'd want to go to the Flyers too if I was Letang. They'd probably offer 8 years $80 million for him.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 10:53 PM ET
I don't have a good feel for where Letang would be traded to or what specific assets would come back, but Pittsburgh needed another top 4 d man with Letang on the roster let alone without him.
- Ryan_Wilson

Do you like Vlasic? I could see us trading Letang to SJ somehow.
errey12
Joined: 01.16.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:57 PM ET
Wish list:

MTL: Gallagher, Gorges
EDM: Smid, Eberle
TOR: JVR, Gardiner, maybe Kulemin
ANA: Etem, Sbisa, ?

Please tweak at will.
aecliptic
New York Rangers
Location: Stacheville
Joined: 06.17.2010

Jun 27 @ 10:57 PM ET
Letang should be traded to CGY where he will never see another playoff game for the rest of his career.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 27 @ 10:57 PM ET
The Flyers?? It's gotta be damn Talbo calling him....or just a way to pressure management.

Voracek/1st Round Pick for starters if we had to trade him there.

- Orpik44


No.

He wants way too much money. And why would the Flyers - or any other team - trade top assets this off-season for a player they can bid on for nothing next off-season?

Not that it won't happen, but trading for Letang when it's becoming painfully clear the Pens can't keep him seems foolish.
HopintheCordoba
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: My Own Personal Burgh, MD
Joined: 04.04.2012

Jun 27 @ 10:58 PM ET
On top of this news we've all seen today: Dan Bylsma is going to be officially announced as the coach of Team USA for Socchi.

Congratulations on winning gold Canada!
Sell My Monkey
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States
Joined: 05.02.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:59 PM ET
The PensNation ‏@ThePensNation 1m
Dan Bylsma and Ray Shero selected to Team USA -

Sooo team USA will now lose to a lower seed in the medal rounds hahahaha.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jun 27 @ 11:00 PM ET
No.

He wants way too much money. And why would the Flyers - or any other team - trade top assets this off-season for a player they can bid on for nothing next off-season?

Not that it won't happen, but trading for Letang when it's becoming painfully clear the Pens can't keep him seems foolish.

- wolfhounds


It is said every year, but players with 1 year left on their deals are traded for a ransom every year.
PENS FAN in CANADA
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Canada, ON
Joined: 08.24.2006

Jun 27 @ 11:00 PM ET
I said it last week and will repeat again... I believe Letang is traded on or before the draft to Edmonton, Anaheim or Colorado.
acdc1206
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Fire Sullivan, PA
Joined: 06.13.2007

Jun 27 @ 11:00 PM ET
TIOPS reporting that Letang wants 8mil with a full NTC. The Pens offer did not include a NTC. The NTC is a deal killer for the Pens.

Tanger is a goner... Shame, but can't blame either side.

- madmike71


As much as I would like to see him resign that request is absurd and I'm glad the Penguins aren't dumb enough to give him that.



Sell My Monkey
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: United States
Joined: 05.02.2008

Jun 27 @ 11:00 PM ET
I'd want to go to the Flyers too if I was Letang. They'd probably offer 8 years $80 million for him.
- Deadstar



hahaha true. then buy him out after a bad year or 2. Wish my boss was cool like that.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:01 PM ET
I'd want to go to the Flyers too if I was Letang. They'd probably offer 8 years $80 million for him.
- Deadstar


Only the Pens can give him an 8 year contract.

With the buyouts and FAs, there's a lot of top level talent potentially available this off-season. If I'm Flyers management, I go after Ference way before I go after Letang.

Edit: NM, after the trade the team holding his contract could give him 8 years. My bad. I still don't think the Flyers could swing it even if they wanted...
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 27 @ 11:04 PM ET
It is said every year, but players with 1 year left on their deals are traded for a ransom every year.
- Deadstar


True. And that's just crazy to me. But a GM certainly might do it to get the fanbase excited. This is going to be an incredibly interesting off-season.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 27 @ 11:04 PM ET
No.

He wants way too much money. And why would the Flyers - or any other team - trade top assets this off-season for a player they can bid on for nothing next off-season?

Not that it won't happen, but trading for Letang when it's becoming painfully clear the Pens can't keep him seems foolish.

- wolfhounds


Two things...

Letang isn't making it to next season without a long term, big money deal.

This is the Flyers we're talking about. Snyder and Homer move core assets every time the wind blows.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 11:06 PM ET
Wish list:

MTL: Gallagher (they wouldn't give up on him), Eller, Gorges + 1st
EDM: Smid, Eberle.
TOR: JVR (too much to ask), Gardiner, Kulemin and Ashton + 1st
ANA: Etem (they wouldn't give up on him) Ryan, Sbisa + 1st ?

Please tweak at will.

- errey12

madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 27 @ 11:06 PM ET
Only the Pens can give him an 8 year contract.

With the buyouts and FAs, there's a lot of top level talent potentially available this off-season. If I'm Flyers management, I go after Ference way before I go after Letang.

Edit: NM, after the trade the team holding his contract could give him 8 years. My bad. I still don't think the Flyers could swing it even if they wanted...

- wolfhounds


Any team that acquires his rights, can sign him for 8 years.

Whoops... got me with the edit...
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 27 @ 11:08 PM ET


$8M is too much!! His trade value will diminish IMO. I really like the guy but I am disappointed.

I have a feeling Bobby Ryan would be just like Letang and would ask for something like $7-8M /year. It's crazy money to just throw around like that.

Is Eberle too much to ask?

As far as D goes, SJ has Vlasic and Vancouver has Edler as options.

- Orpik44

If you are giving a guy 8 years you shouldn't have a problem giving a NTC you are commuting to him for the long run with the years. I just assumed a NTC would be default in the contract but I still wouldn't go more than 6.5 but apparently the pens already went 6.75. NTC are really meaningless anyway I feel like the majority of players thy get tades at the deadline have a NTC or NMC
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