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Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 8:20 PM ET
I think the sticking point is the NMC/NTC. You can be sure Letang wants to control where he plays his prime years and I can't blame him. He's not signing for 8 years to find himself playing in Florida for 7.
- madmike71

Florida? Really?

Most of us would dream about living in Florida and getting a $7M check every year.
stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 27 @ 8:38 PM ET
by "objective sanity" you mean he obviously puts forth his opinion of the matter and supports it by using cherry-picked stats? Ever heard the expression "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining?"
- ChrisMS

why do you feel the need to attack the person who takes the time to put these up for us?
cygnus41
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.23.2012

Jun 27 @ 8:43 PM ET
I think the sticking point is the NMC/NTC. You can be sure Letang wants to control where he plays his prime years and I can't blame him. He's not signing for 8 years to find himself playing in Florida for 7.
- madmike71


Hence the alternate 6M deal. If he signs for somewhere south of 6.5M Shero will give him his NTC.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 27 @ 8:53 PM ET
Nice to see Ben Lovejoy got a 3 year / $3.3 mil extension in Anaheim. Great dude... Even thanked the Pens via Twitter.
lloyd095
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 27 @ 8:57 PM ET
Letang will resign...
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 8:57 PM ET
Nice to see Ben Lovejoy got a 3 year / $3.3 mil extension in Anaheim. Great dude... Even thanked the Pens via Twitter.
- rival22

Very nice guy. $1.1M/year sounds pretty good to him. Does he start every game in Anaheim?
lloyd095
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 27 @ 8:57 PM ET
Nice to see Ben Lovejoy got a 3 year / $3.3 mil extension in Anaheim. Great dude... Even thanked the Pens via Twitter.
- rival22


I hope that's 3.3 total?
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 8:58 PM ET
Letang will resign...
- lloyd095

Is this your feeling or is it something you heard?
lloyd095
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:01 PM ET
Is this your feeling or is it something you heard?
- Orpik44


He doesn't want to go. If that's the case he will make the right decision. 8 years 54 million is a lot of change
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:05 PM ET
He doesn't want to go. If that's the case he will make the right decision. 8 years 54 million is a lot of change
- lloyd095

8 years @ $6.75M per

A lot of money but we know he's worth it....he could get more outside.

lloyd095
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:07 PM ET
8 years @ $6.75M per

A lot of money but we know he's worth it....he could get more outside.

- Orpik44


Yea but is that what's most important to him? He wants to stay and he has to take less to have a chance every year.
Daman
Joined: 07.03.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:09 PM ET
8 years @ $6.75M per

A lot of money but we know he's worth it....he could get more outside.

- Orpik44



Wow Da Man, you were right. Dead on right.

All the fans give you crap, but you end up being right.

Wow.
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 27 @ 9:09 PM ET
Nice to see Ben Lovejoy got a 3 year / $3.3 mil extension in Anaheim. Great dude... Even thanked the Pens via Twitter.
- rival22

Lovejoy>Niskanen
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:11 PM ET
Yea but is that what's most important to him? He wants to stay and he has to take less to have a chance every year.
- lloyd095

We won't know for sure until we see ink on the paper

I still get mad when I think about what Marian Hossa left behind (7 year deal) and chose Detroit over us for a 1 year deal..
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:12 PM ET
Lovejoy>Niskanen
- Genev21

This year, absolutely. Nisky was crappy.

In normal circunstances, Niskanen is the better player.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:13 PM ET
Wow Da Man, you were right. Dead on right.

All the fans give you crap, but you end up being right.

Wow.

- Daman

??? What's up with the 3rd person thing
lloyd095
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 07.09.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:22 PM ET
We won't know for sure until we see ink on the paper

I still get mad when I think about what Marian Hossa left behind (7 year deal) and chose Detroit over us for a 1 year deal..

- Orpik44


Hossa wasn't tight with this roster like Letang is
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:27 PM ET
by "objective sanity" you mean he obviously puts forth his opinion of the matter and supports it by using cherry-picked stats? Ever heard the expression "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining?"
- ChrisMS


Nothing is stopping you from writing your own blog in the myhockeybuzz section. Here is the link. You can cherry pick your own stats and then present them.

http://my.hockeybuzz.com/
powerhouse
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Columbia , MD
Joined: 11.28.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:28 PM ET
by "objective sanity" you mean he obviously puts forth his opinion of the matter and supports it by using cherry-picked stats? Ever heard the expression "Don't piss on my leg and tell me it's raining?"
- ChrisMS


Where are your stats genius?
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:42 PM ET
Where are your stats genius?
- powerhouse

Let's not get too personal here. Chris is a nice guy and Gunner is an awesome writer.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:50 PM ET
if letang accepts, you guys are gonna have about $19 mil (assuming the cap stays the same) to sign 7 forwards (including sutter), 4 dmen, and 1 backup goalie next offseason. you think you guys can do it?

it's a bit under 2 mil per player if you average it out...it's doable, but it's gonna be tough.

i think shero's logic is that you can stick a decent prospect or a player making $2 mil on either crosby or malkin's line and they'll pot 20+ goals. gonna be tough to get a solid top 6 or even top 4 defense though.
Ryan Wilson
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Rochester, NY
Joined: 06.13.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:54 PM ET
if letang accepts, you guys are gonna have about $19 mil (assuming the cap stays the same) to sign 7 forwards (including sutter), 4 dmen, and 1 backup goalie next offseason. you think you guys can do it?

it's a bit under 2 mil per player if you average it out...it's doable, but it's gonna be tough.

i think shero's logic is that you can stick a decent prospect or a player making $2 mil on either crosby or malkin's line and they'll pot 20+ goals. gonna be tough to get a solid top 6 or even top 4 defense though.

- rangerdanger94


After next year the cap will continue to rise until the next lockout.
rangerdanger94
New York Rangers
Location: NY
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 27 @ 9:59 PM ET
After next year the cap will continue to rise until the next lockout.
- Ryan_Wilson

maybe, maybe not. i think i read a couple articles that said that the way the cap formula is set, it might not rise for the next 1-2 offseasons and then start to move up towards the $70 mil it was prior to the lockout a little more than halfway through the CBA's lifespan.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 27 @ 10:00 PM ET
Hence the alternate 6M deal. If he signs for somewhere south of 6.5M Shero will give him his NTC.
- cygnus41


I appreciate your thought process, but Letang isn't going to trade dollars for a NMC. At this stage in his career, why should he?

I get the feeling Shero just made his "highest and best". It's going to be an interesting few days.
Deadstar
Joined: 06.29.2008

Jun 27 @ 10:02 PM ET
if letang accepts, you guys are gonna have about $19 mil (assuming the cap stays the same) to sign 7 forwards (including sutter), 4 dmen, and 1 backup goalie next offseason. you think you guys can do it?

it's a bit under 2 mil per player if you average it out...it's doable, but it's gonna be tough.

i think shero's logic is that you can stick a decent prospect or a player making $2 mil on either crosby or malkin's line and they'll pot 20+ goals. gonna be tough to get a solid top 6 or even top 4 defense though.

- rangerdanger94


The Penguins have operated this way for years now. It works for them. Much better this way than looking for a way out of guys contracts 2 years from now.
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