Seems like nothing then. How do you figure you can ask for a trade like that and then say that the top 20 assets are off limits?
- burn

We would offer up our prospects. We have a derth of them in the AHL and coming out of Jr's. We have solid role players that might fit in. Again, Toronto won't get much at the start of the season for Dion with only one year left unless the trade involves a contract extension. Then we would consider offering more.

This would have to be a monster deal for PITT to consider dealing him within conference. The overpay by TOR would have to be gigantic...I'm thinking bind-blowing overpay (IF Letang is signed):

Gardiner + 21 + Kulemin + Gunnarson + 1st in 2014 <-> Letang + Kennedy???

It would almost not be worth it for TOR to try...lol. On the other hand, if PITT has a deal in place for Fleury to say CGY, then I could see something like:

Gardiner + 21 + Kulemin + Gunnarson + Reimer <-> Letang + Kennedy

I know these are insane offers, but really, why would PITT trade to TOR otherwise, there must be at least a few Western Conference teams ready to bid as well...I just don't see Letang involved here...3-way deal, maybe...but he would need to end up in the West still...
- mventres

Are you high?

No, we replaced Suter for the most part. Josi is about 80% of what Suter was, but 6 years younger. Josi can still grow as shown by his MVP at the Worlds. What we didn't find is a replacement for Josi on the second line. I think Dion could fit that roll and not have the pressure on him to be the superstar on D. He could focus mostly on offense. We could pair him with Klein for a Defensive partner or Ellis on the power play.
- dgutzman

Josi is a good one, don't think he'll ever be suter, but he'll come close. Theres no real need for Phaneuf to go to Nashville, you guys already blew your wad on Weber anyways.

No, we replaced Suter for the most part. Josi is about 80% of what Suter was, but 6 years younger. Josi can still grow as shown by his MVP at the Worlds. What we didn't find is a replacement for Josi on the second line. I think Dion could fit that roll and not have the pressure on him to be the superstar on D. He could focus mostly on offense. We could pair him with Klein for a Defensive partner or Ellis on the power play.
- dgutzman

You need forwards.

The guy who tweeted it works for the Pittsburgh Tribune, so take it for what it's worth. At least he's a real journalist and not someone who makes up things on a daily basis. lol.
- trolleytracks

Yup. There's virtually no chance he's just making this up. It's coming from somewhere

We would offer up our prospects. We have a derth of them in the AHL and coming out of Jr's. We have solid role players that might fit in. Again, Toronto won't get much at the start of the season for Dion with only one year left unless the trade involves a contract extension. Then we would consider offering more.
- dgutzman

If Burke was still the GM....

same thing happened with JVR, and with Bernier, maybe it has some wheels. if it keeps coming up it is probably true
- matt1337

I still don't think Nonis does anything. If it's true that Toronto is Letang's preferred location after Pittburgh then he should wait until next year and pick him up for free or not get him. Again, Gardiner and Rielly could be better players than Letang and you know one of them would be in the deal going back to the Penguins.

To bad Letang doesn't have a NTC.
- Leafland

True but other teams are going to know he wants to be in Toronto now.

Let me dumb it down for you hotshot, the Leafs would be moronic to deal a top pairing d-man on a playoff team for a guy who hasn't been a top line centre in years on a team that just missed the playoffs. And spare me the west is better than the east crap.
- mykokes

Each players team making the playoffs or not has nothing to do with their value(congrats to the leafs for a good year btw). The leafs won because of Carlyle's open system allowed them to be 5th in scoring and have a strong transition game. Their defense was below average. It was Tor's top 6 and style of play that allowed them to make the playoffs, not Dions solid D.

The Avs missed the playoffs because they had one of the bottom 3 Defenses in the league and a coach with an outdated system and lack of depth on the wing with a below average bottom 6. Also due to a contract hold out Stastny was pushed into a purely defensive role leaving him to play dump, chase and cycle hockey which is not the system he is meant for.

The East has always been more offensive and the west more defensive, it is no secret and it is well documented.

Your points that you have stated don't portray an accurate representation of each player.

Of course Dion has good value, I believe given the current state of the League with a lower cap, and thin FA pool that Stastny holds more value.

Wowww rossi just said on the fan that Letangs preferred destination is toronto if he can't get a deal in pitt.

Dominoes baby!
- SameOld

Wow.

Good point. Leafs have nothing of value. But hey at least they put up a fight against Boston eh?
- SameOld

..and still lost in the 1st round. Try again. Boston certainly didn't play all they could against the Leafs. It's a normal thing to play low when the other team in an underdog. You know it.

Listen, I know I'm being a dink right now, but can you blame me? I can toss the fact that Advanced stats say Phaneuf faced the toughest competition amongst NHL d-men this year if I believed in advanced stats, what I know is if you have a d-man capable of 40 points and 200 hits and able to play over 24 minutes a night, you don't trade him. Especially when his partners all season were Mike fricking Kostka and Korbinian Holzer.
- mykokes

People tend to overlook that. And its really is somethng that shouldn't be overlooked.

..and still lost in the 1st round. Try again. Boston certainly didn't play all they could against the Leafs. It's a normal thing to play low when the other team in an underdog. You know it.
- Orpik44

Haha of course that's what it was. 2 goals haha comon

Yup. There's virtually no chance he's just making this up. It's coming from somewhere
- SameOld

Yep...he has his sources. He's always involved with real rumours.

True but other teams are going to know he wants to be in Toronto now.
- SameOld

Eh, I don't think that makes him turn down alot of money. He might have a preference, but without the control to pick where he goes, he will follow the money.

Josi is a good one, don't think he'll ever be suter, but he'll come close. Theres no real need for Phaneuf to go to Nashville, you guys already blew your wad on Weber anyways.
- mykokes

In three years, Weber's contract comes down 2 million, in 5 years is comes down to 6 million a year. So by the time Weber is 33, his contract will pay him an average of 4.5 a year over the remaining 8 years which will make him the biggest deal in the NHL.

This would have to be a monster deal for PITT to consider dealing him within conference. The overpay by TOR would have to be gigantic...I'm thinking bind-blowing overpay (IF Letang is signed):

Gardiner + 21 + Kulemin + Gunnarson + 1st in 2014 <-> Letang + Kennedy???

It would almost not be worth it for TOR to try...lol. On the other hand, if PITT has a deal in place for Fleury to say CGY, then I could see something like:

Gardiner + 21 + Kulemin + Gunnarson + Reimer <-> Letang + Kennedy

I know these are insane offers, but really, why would PITT trade to TOR otherwise, there must be at least a few Western Conference teams ready to bid as well...I just don't see Letang involved here...3-way deal, maybe...but he would need to end up in the West still...
- mventres

Pass the Dutchy(shen) to the left hand side....

Each players team making the playoffs or not has nothing to do with their value(congrats to the leafs for a good year btw). The leafs won because of Carlyle's open system allowed them to be 5th in scoring and have a strong transition game. Their defense was below average. It was Tor's top 6 and style of play that allowed them to make the playoffs, not Dions solid D.

The Avs missed the playoffs because they had one of the bottom 3 Defenses in the league and a coach with an outdated system and lack of depth on the wing with a below average bottom 6. Also due to a contract hold out Stastny was pushed into a purely defensive role leaving him to play dump, chase and cycle hockey which is not the system he is meant for.

The East has always been more offensive and the west more defensive, it is no secret and it is well documented.

Your points that you have stated don't portray an accurate representation of each player.

Of course Dion has good value, I believe given the current state of the League with a lower cap, and thin FA pool that Stastny holds more value.
- Meeqsb

Hahaha oh god.

Sounds like Pitts should talk to Col. Letang for Stastny ... done

Never would the Leafs give up so much for so little please get the rumour correct Rossi from Pitt reported that Letang wanted to land in Toronto. He's only worth 1 player

Never would the Leafs give up so much for so little please get the rumour correct Rossi from Pitt reported that Letang wanted to land in Toronto. He's only worth 1 player

Hahaha wtf is this. Gardiner has more value then 1 year of letang to pitt who know they probably can't resign him. Let along everything else you have there.

Give me a break haha
- SameOld

NOTE 2 things...for those who cannot read.

1. Assumption was Letang is signed.

2. As much as Toronto wants Letang, my point was that it will be stupid for them to try because of the over-payment PITT will want for dealing a signed Letang within conference to a playoff team.

Yep...he has his sources. He's always involved with real rumours.
- Orpik44

So what would you guys want to take back (within reason) for this deal?

Haha of course that's what it was. 2 goals haha comon
- SameOld

I don't what you're trying to say, really. You lost in the 1st round....we lost in the 3rd round. The best teams just up their games. We sucked at crashing the net and couldn't get close to Rask. We deserved to lose.

Are you trying to say the Leafs are better than the Penguins?

Eh, I don't think that makes him turn down alot of money. He might have a preference, but without the control to pick where he goes, he will follow the money.
- Leafland

Oh for sure but it might make teams hesitate on what they're willing to trade without a wink wink.