I don't see it being enough unless you include reilly or gardiner...
- Sheppy99

We could always include franson over gardiner or rielly

1st rounder 2013, Biggs/Ashton, Percy, Kulemin, Gunner for Letang
- Mapleleafs_91

Thats at least 3 first round guys in that trade

1st rounder 2013, Biggs/Ashton, Percy, Kulemin, Gunner for Letang
- Mapleleafs_91

That may work but again, do we really need Letang at all? I just think that Gardiner and or Reilly have the potential to be a similar type of defensemen.

We've already seen flashes of greatness from Gards. Why invest in a long term contract with Letang and give up assets for him when Gards will warrant a big pay day down the road and so will Reilly potentially.

We let Gards develop and when we give him his big pay day, we gave up no assets to do so.

That may work but again, do we really need Letang at all? I just think that Gardiner and or Reilly have the potential to be a similar type of defensemen.

We've already seen flashes of greatness from Gards. Why invest in a long term contract with Letang and give up assets for him when Gards will warrant a big pay day down the road and so will Reilly potentially.

We let Gards develop and when we give him his big pay day, we gave up no assets to do so.
- Sheppy99

If he can be had for less and demands a trade to Toronto, we are the ones who have the ball in our court

If letanf refuses to play for no other team than the leafs since pens cant resign probably, leafs have all the cards which means they dont have to offer key pieces because he becomes a UFA regardless

Which means leafs get to decide what to give up.

Too much cap hits my dude I dont think it will fit unless grabo is bought out
- Mapleleafs_91

Or traded or whatever. I didn't really want to put him in this roster.

I still believe he could be traded for a salary swap with less cap hit and a pick

Here's a question. Why do we necessarily have to give up Phaneuf for Stastny?

We have a crap load of defensive prospects and it's alreayd known the av's want liles back.

Give the av's a package of Liles, a good d prospect other than reilly or gardiner and a 2nd round draft pick for stastny.
- Sheppy99

Who said the Avs want Liles back? We have Barrie and Elliot who are both ready to challenge for an NHL roster spot and aren't signed to that horrible contract that Burke handed out.

Avs need to get better on Defense and wing. Assuming Kessel, JVR and Reilly are unrealistic, that leaves Gardiner, your 1st and (while I am not a fan personally) Phaneuf for pieces you have that would interest the Avs enough for to you have Stastny. Not interested in the rest. We have plenty of up and coming D prospects if you aren't offering someone who is an upgrade from Barrie, Elliot or Siemens then I will pass. Also a 2nd is something to add to make a deal more even, it is nothing to base a trade around and adding it to a bunch of things we don't need doesn't make a bad deal work either.

If letanf refuses to play for no other team than the leafs since pens cant resign probably, leafs have all the cards which means they dont have to offer key pieces because he becomes a UFA regardless

Which means leafs get to decide what to give up.
- Mapleleafs_91

I like letang........ I don't love letang. I've seen what he looks like inside of his own blue line

However our pp would be absolutely sick with him not to mention our breakouts would vastly improve.

Where is this rumor coming from that he has such a hard-on for T.O.?

Who said the Avs want Liles back? We have Barrie and Elliot who are both ready to challenge for an NHL roster spot and aren't signed to that horrible contract that Burke handed out.

Avs need to get better on Defense and wing. Assuming Kessel, JVR and Reilly are unrealistic, that leaves Gardiner, your 1st and (while I am not a fan personally) Phaneuf for pieces you have that would interest the Avs enough for to you have Stastny. Not interested in the rest. We have plenty of up and coming D prospects if you aren't offering someone who is an upgrade from Barrie, Elliot or Siemens then I will pass. Also a 2nd is something to add to make a deal more even, it is nothing to base a trade around and adding it to a bunch of things we don't need doesn't make a bad deal work either.
- Meeqsb

Lets go over something...

Phaneuf > stastny in value

Gardiner> Stastny in value

You can have our first rounder but you take Liles

Or traded or whatever. I didn't really want to put him in this roster.

I still believe he could be traded for a salary swap with less cap hit and a pick
- Viktory

Grabo has value. If he gets bought out I'll be shocked.

I like letang........ I don't love letang. I've seen what he looks like inside of his own blue line

However our pp would be absolutely sick with him not to mention our breakouts would vastly improve.

Where is this rumor coming from that he has such a hard-on for T.O.?
- Sheppy99

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426413

Who said the Avs want Liles back? We have Barrie and Elliot who are both ready to challenge for an NHL roster spot and aren't signed to that horrible contract that Burke handed out.

Avs need to get better on Defense and wing. Assuming Kessel, JVR and Reilly are unrealistic, that leaves Gardiner, your 1st and (while I am not a fan personally) Phaneuf for pieces you have that would interest the Avs enough for to you have Stastny. Not interested in the rest. We have plenty of up and coming D prospects if you aren't offering someone who is an upgrade from Barrie, Elliot or Siemens then I will pass. Also a 2nd is something to add to make a deal more even, it is nothing to base a trade around and adding it to a bunch of things we don't need doesn't make a bad deal work either.
- Meeqsb

Joe Sakic and P. Roy


We aren't giving up Gardiner for an overpaid 60 point centerman. Sorry. We are taking a risk by trading for him. He is not a proven consistent point producer which is what we need.

The defensive prospect will be blacker, Finn, or Percy and Liles will be included. You can have Gunnerson if you want instead, doesn't matter. And a 2nd rounder.

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=426413
- Viktory

Wow........ you don't usually see high end players wanting to come to Toronto.......

Makes me want him a little more now since he desires to play here.

I like letang........ I don't love letang. I've seen what he looks like inside of his own blue line

However our pp would be absolutely sick with him not to mention our breakouts would vastly improve.

Where is this rumor coming from that he has such a hard-on for T.O.?
- Sheppy99

With Pittsburgh's Defense prospect depth you have to think they'll want a proven NHL defenseman, a high end forward prospect and a 1st. Do we have the right assets to acquire him? Franson(is he proven), Colbourne,21st pick.

With Pittsburgh's Defense prospect depth you have to think they'll want a proven NHL defenseman, a high end forward prospect and a 1st. Do we have the right assets to acquire him? Franson(is he proven), Colbourne,21st pick.
- coolehmon41

FRANSON, KULEMIN, 1ST ROUNDER 2013 FOR LETANG

Wow........ you don't usually see high end players wanting to come to Toronto.......

Makes me want him a little more now since he desires to play here.
- Sheppy99

Players who "demand" trades to certain places especially only 1 place which is clear in that article dont get much in return... example rick nash


Oh and ps, one would think rick nash is worth more than letang

FRANSON, KULEMIN, 1ST ROUNDER 2013 FOR LETANG
- Mapleleafs_91

Man thats a nice package. They may actually bite on that. Everyone knows Malkin and Kulemin are homies. I wonder if star players can influence GM's at all.

FRANSON, KULEMIN, 1ST ROUNDER 2013 FOR LETANG
- Mapleleafs_91

I'd sooner give up Gardiner.

It stands to reason that Gardiner is a similar player, but might not ever reach that similar level of play.

Letang is young and proven, and would immediately improve our defense. Between Franson and Gardiner, I'd take Franson because he's a unique commodity, whereas Gardiner in relation to a trade for Letang would be much less of a loss.

Players who "demand" trades to certain places especially only 1 place which is clear in that article dont get much in return... example rick nash


Oh and ps, one would think rick nash is worth more than letang
- Mapleleafs_91

I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a NTC

Players who "demand" trades to certain places especially only 1 place which is clear in that article dont get much in return... example rick nash


Oh and ps, one would think rick nash is worth more than letang
- Mapleleafs_91

No way, Letang is a premier PMD. Very high value, especially when you're as good as Letang

With Pittsburgh's Defense prospect depth you have to think they'll want a proven NHL defenseman, a high end forward prospect and a 1st. Do we have the right assets to acquire him? Franson(is he proven), Colbourne,21st pick.
- coolehmon41

I really think Letangs expiring contract will hurt his return. You can't demand a kings ransom for a guy that has an expiring contract.

Still it will require some good assets. I'm thinking a first, a roster player and a solid prospect.

So first rounder, kulemin/gunnerson, blacker

I'm pretty sure he doesn't have a NTC
- Viktory

It doesnt matter people who pubically say something shuts down every other team if he says Toronto hes going to toronto he wont resign with any other team who trades for him

I wonder if it's been discussed that Toronto COULD (read, COULD) take on MAF's contract along with Letang, then use a buy-out on MAF? I feel like Pittsburgh would want a goalie, which I believe is one of Toronto's strengths. However, I don't see Nonis dealing either one of Reimer or Bernier, so maybe I'm just spit balling.

No way, Letang is a premier PMD. Very high value, especially when you're as good as Letang
- coolehmon41

Id rather rick nash than letang any day

I'd sooner give up Gardiner.

It stands to reason that Gardiner is a similar player, but might not ever reach that similar level of play.

Letang is young and proven, and would immediately improve our defense. Between Franson and Gardiner, I'd take Franson because he's a unique commodity, whereas Gardiner in relation to a trade for Letang would be much less of a loss.
- Viktory

I think Pitt would rather Franson over Gardiner. If we did get Letang you'd have to trade Rielly or Gardiner and that would fetch a nice return.