Gardiner Kulemin 1st for Letang

Yeah. I could see that too.

Hopefully we are able to re-sign Letang first....if not...what the hell...
- Orpik44

It would kill me to see Gardiner go, but if we ever had the chance to get Letang and Phaneuf together in their primes... watch out.

That's a pairing that could anchor your blue line for 5 years. Some teams have the luxury of never worrying about their defense. We'd be one of them.

Phaneuf - Letang
Literally - Anybody
Else - With

A.Pulse

I thought the other way around...interesting.
- Orpik44

It's not that close.

Stop the Kulemin bullpoop.
- Oneonta Penguin

uh, your management loves Kulemin.

Stop the Kulemin bullpoop.
- Oneonta Penguin

You don't want to see me giving twisted ideas to RS right?

...agree on your first premise, but you're not considering all points of value. A #1 C can be a bit smaller if the wings compensate and the C has a lot of talent. P Kane is a C/RW who is small, he does pretty well, no? Crosby and Gagner are almost exactly the same size...Crosby is pretty good, no?

I think Gagner totally has the talent to be a #1 C. Sure he may not be as skilled as Crosby or Kane, but he's closer than you give him credit for...
- mventres

If we could swing a deal for Gagner that did not include Dion, I'm game. I believe that he would provide an upgrade, and fit well with the plan (get better, get younger), but we can't do it unless someone is ready to replace Dion. Maybe we can sign a couple of guys to make this more feasible? As it stands though, we just can't afford to lose Dion with no ready-made replacement for his time/workload...

DO you have a comparable to McDavid's game? Skating, vision, pass, shot..?
- Orpik44

He just does so much so well and sees the ice well id have to say maybe like Tavares Hes not that big though.

uh, your management loves Kulemin.
- Sheppy99

I don't see him as a Penguin. Ek keeps saying Pittsburgh LOVES Hemsky. I don't see him as a Penguin. You know Shero loves Kulemin how? Actually dropping fro 30 goals to 7 would be a red flag for every GM.

It would kill me to see Gardiner go, but if we ever had the chance to get Letang and Phaneuf together in their primes... watch out.

That's a pairing that could anchor your blue line for 5 years. Some teams have the luxury of never worrying about their defense. We'd be one of them.

Phaneuf - Letang
Literally - Anybody
Else - With

A.Pulse
- Leeman4Gilmour

DO you have a comparable to McDavid's game? Skating, vision, pass, shot..?
- Orpik44

Off course he would have to agree to a deal for something like that to happen.
- Orpik44

Cool... glad we're on the same page

If Letang wants to play here we should just wait and grab him as a ufa!

But for fun .... A trade would look and start something like kulemin, 1st rounder +

Dion leaves it frees up 6.5 to sign Letang.

- Leafland

Why skate when you can walk on water???

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/1201/nhl.players.poll.most.overrated/content.1.html

Phaneuf is year in and year out voted the most overrated player in the league by a poll amoungst current players.

I also Stastny was in the top of the league for PPGvsQOC and I would argue is currently underrated.

If the leafs managed to get stastny for Phaneuf it would be an overwhelming win for them, especially in Carlyle's system.

If the Avs hold onto the max amount of his final year of his contract possible (which they have no reason not to) they could get a huge return for him. Far better than Phaneuf.

I would take his wife though.
- Meeqsb

simple question - if part of the reason for possibly getting rid of Phaneuf is his contract at 6.5M$, how does acquiring Stastny's expiring contract of 6.6$ help?

Why skate when you can walk on water???
- lumlums

And thats my que

If Letang wants to play here we should just wait and grab him as a ufa!

But for fun .... A trade would look and start something like kulemin, 1st rounder +

Dion leaves it frees up 6.5 to sign Letang.
- StanleyCupDreams

If Letang goes, Pittsburgh is getting back a young blueliner in the NHL.

simple question - if part of the reason for possibly getting rid of Phaneuf is his contract at 6.5M$, how does acquiring Stastny's expiring contract of 6.6$ help?
- BorjeFan4Ever

Its not about getting ride of his contract its about filling both teams need's, we need a center they need a D. Both ufa next year just fits.

simple question - if part of the reason for possibly getting rid of Phaneuf is his contract at 6.5M$, how does acquiring Stastny's expiring contract of 6.6$ help?
- BorjeFan4Ever

Some people don't seem to realize that flipping Phaneuf for help at center is just shifting the problem around.

Yes, it's hard to find a #1C. It's equally hard to find a #1D.

If Letang goes, Pittsburgh is getting back a young blueliner in the NHL.
- Oneonta Penguin

That's the + probably Gardiner. ... but I'm out after you mention him and the 1st.... for me is either or.

Its not about getting ride of his contract its about filling both teams need's, we need a center they need a D. Both ufa next year just fits.
- jake24242

And then we would need a D.

It would kill me to see Gardiner go, but if we ever had the chance to get Letang and Phaneuf together in their primes... watch out.

That's a pairing that could anchor your blue line for 5 years. Some teams have the luxury of never worrying about their defense. We'd be one of them.

Phaneuf - Letang
Literally - Anybody
Else - With

A.Pulse
- Leeman4Gilmour

That's expensive as poop.

And thats my que
- jake24242

simple question - if part of the reason for possibly getting rid of Phaneuf is his contract at 6.5M$, how does acquiring Stastny's expiring contract of 6.6$ help?
- BorjeFan4Ever

Exactly! Why do we do any favours for Colorado? Now, if Colorado can get him under contract for about $5 million going forward, then we do the deal.

To anyone who says Letang isn't physical doesn't watch him play. He's physical, he's a good two way player who is asked to be the only offensive dman since Goligoski left. Look at the main Power Play unit for Pittsburgh:

Neal - Crosby - Dupuis/Kunitz

Malkin - Letang

The 2nd unit doesn't even come close to being as good.

In Toronto... Seeing Letang and Phaneuf play together would be an interesting dynamic. We're all harping he needs a Defensively minded Dman to pair him with. Personally, I feel you out him with an equally skilled player his game becomes more role defined, not trying to do everything. One guy is more defensive, the other more offensive. But neither have to do everything in order to accomplish what the coaching staff outlines.

Letang, Phaneuf, Franson and let's say Scudari is a huge, physical and two way capable. Throw in Fraser, and say somebody like Ranger if he's willing, you have two Defensive guys, Franson, Phaneuf and Letang covering Offensive roles with defensive games, and Ranger who was a true two way guy in Tampa, all of a sudden the D is multifunctional and less exposed. Bernier and Reimer would be that much better.

Upfront, there doesn't need to be a lot of change. If we can get Boyd Gordon, relieve Mac, and maybe pry Malone out of Tampa for a good pick then you have a good corp of guys to work with.

I don't see him as a Penguin. Ek keeps saying Pittsburgh LOVES Hemsky. I don't see him as a Penguin. You know Shero loves Kulemin how? Actually dropping fro 30 goals to 7 would be a red flag for every GM.
- Oneonta Penguin

cuz kulemin and malkin have wicked chemistry and shero was stated as having interest in Kulemin for that reason.

Some people don't seem to realize that flipping Phaneuf for help at center is just shifting the problem around.

Yes, it's hard to find a #1C. It's equally hard to find a #1D.
- Leeman4Gilmour

OMG OMG OMG OMG!!!!



....Somebody gets it!!!!!