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jimmc7722
New York Islanders
Location: TAVARES IS AN ASS!!!!, ON
Joined: 02.06.2008

Jun 27 @ 8:21 AM ET
Snow knows the importance of goaltending. Is will get someone that will help us.

Snow is stingy with his contacts. By the time jt becomes a ufa his contract going to be best value in hockey.

Lets get hamonic and bailey signed long term as a top priority.
I could see a team putting out offer sheets on those guy if they don't.

Isles should sign Horton for jts right wing too

- Spartiarti



For some reason... I see the #15 pick being traded for a NHL ready player.

Maybe a team trying to shed $$$$
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Jun 27 @ 8:24 AM ET
This team dose not have the money to throw away on a RDP buyout, trust me, there never going to buy him out, i think they still hope he can play one day, or they can trade it off his contract.
- FiretheGM

The only trade they could pull off to rid themselves of the RDP contract is to trade it and take an equally bad one back in Luongo. For only an additional mid round draft pick or a second tier prospect, I'd consider trading RDP for Luongo
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Jun 27 @ 8:28 AM ET
If the Canucks end up wanting to buyout Roberto Luongo, why not trade him to the Islanders instead and take back Rick DiPietro's contract. The Islanders would be able to have a very solid starter, and the Canucks could buyout DiPietro, who would cost the Canucks less money. Obviously, picks/prospects could be included to make this a fair deal, but to me it makes some sense. Any thoughts?
- Sammy Van Hagar

I wouldn't want the Isles to offer anything more than a mid round pick or a second tier prospect in addition to RDP for Luongo. Anything more would be a stupid move by the Isles. VAN is as desperate to rid themselves of Luongo as any team has been to rid themselves of a player in recent memory. Nobody is offering them anything for him, much less anything of real value. RDP and a second tier prospect or a 3rd rounder for Luongo is a decent deal for both sides. At least VAN can rid themselves of Luongo and get something in return and get back a cheaper contract to buy out while the Isles essentially get a starter for the next couple of seasons instead of paying a guy to play in Bridgeport for that same $$ and it would essentially only cost them a second tier prospect or mid round pick.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Jun 27 @ 8:28 AM ET
Strome or Nino? Nah, that's an overpayment. I was thinking more like this:

To Vancouver :
Rick DiPietro
3rd round pick in 2014

To NY Islanders :
Roberto Luongo

The Isles would be doing the Canucks a favor by taking on the larger contract. The Nucks should count their blessings if any team takes that contract.

- Sammy Van Hagar

Bingo.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Jun 27 @ 8:34 AM ET
Just my opinion but I think it would be best for you guys to cut ties with Dipietro for good.

Move on.

You have a great young team, and he is like an anchor.

- Marc D

We've all been wanting this for years, but it doesn't seem like the team (i.e. Charles Wang) is willing to buy him out. So, if you're not going to buy RDP out, why not move him to VAN with a 3rd rounder or so and take back Luongo? At least you're spending that $$ on a guy who can play and contribute at the NHL level as opposed to someone you bury in the "A".

The best move is to just buy RDP out and go forward with another veteran and Poulin/Nilsson. The next best option might just be to trade RDP for Luongo, provided that the only other compensation going back to VAN is minimal.
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Jun 27 @ 8:38 AM ET
Snow knows the importance of goaltending. Is will get someone that will help us.

Snow is stingy with his contacts. By the time jt becomes a ufa his contract going to be best value in hockey.

Lets get hamonic and bailey signed long term as a top priority.
I could see a team putting out offer sheets on those guy if they don't.

Isles should sign Horton for jts right wing too

- Spartiarti

We all better hope he never hits UFA status. They should be trying to sign him to an extension well before then.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 27 @ 8:43 AM ET
we are way below the cap, but I think well trade Halak. We cant carry 3 goalies this year too.
- cuethenoise


I don't even know why I wrote that. I think someone else mentioned it and I just parroted it. St. Louis has never been near the cap.
It's probably why I was prepared to cheer for them if the Isles went bye-bye. Smooth transition.
keaner17
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 27 @ 8:46 AM ET
Scary thought one of the reasons Nabby is going to FA is because Snow won't give him a yes or no answer on DP playing next year
- brodydog29


Why would Snow have demoted a healthy DP last year only to bring him back this year? I think all parties in the DP saga know that barring an injury, he'll never play for the Isles again. The Isles brought up Poulin and never even played the guy which means that transaction had nothing to do with trying to get Poulin NHL time but everything to do with trying to get DP out.

We can take off the tin foil hats, DP is no longer part of this teams long term plans, he's not an NHL goalie, the team doesn't view him as one and he's not a Free Mason.

Xxkeaner17xX
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 27 @ 8:48 AM ET
The only trade they could pull off to rid themselves of the RDP contract is to trade it and take an equally bad one back in Luongo. For only an additional mid round draft pick or a second tier prospect, I'd consider trading RDP for Luongo
- Jethro09


Eh, since we wouldn't qualify for an amnesty buyout of Lou, I'd stear clear of him until he himself is bought out. That contract is actually worse than DP's with the exception that Lou is an actual NHL player. I never want to see a goalie signed past age 40 here again, let alone 43.

xxkeaner17xx
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 27 @ 8:50 AM ET
Snow knows the importance of goaltending. Is will get someone that will help us.

Snow is stingy with his contacts. By the time jt becomes a ufa his contract going to be best value in hockey.

Lets get hamonic and bailey signed long term as a top priority.
I could see a team putting out offer sheets on those guy if they don't.

Isles should sign Horton for jts right wing too

- Spartiarti


I've been trumpeting the sign Horton cause all season but word is he's Boston's top offseason priority so I think he's already pretty much off the table. Let's just hope Nino is ready to fill that role and see who else becomes available after next week.

Xxkeaner17xX
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:02 AM ET
Eh, since we wouldn't qualify for an amnesty buyout of Lou, I'd stear clear of him until he himself is bought out. That contract is actually worse than DP's with the exception that Lou is an actual NHL player. I never want to see a goalie signed past age 40 here again, let alone 43.

xxkeaner17xx

- keaner17

the amnesty thing is only significant if you're talking about a team that would actually buy a player out. I know they bought Yashin out, but I don't know if they will buy RDP out. I think CW has a real problem paying a guy $24M or $27M to NOT play for his team, regardless of its cap implications.

If CW is not going to buy out RDP, under that circumstance it would be worth looking at trading RDP and a third rounder for Luongo. Obviously, the best option is to just buy out RDP and move forward with goaltenders who are younger and signed to reasonable contracts. But the truth is that a deal for Luongo for only RDP and a third rounder isn't a terrible scenario IF CW refuses to buy out another contract and will keep the player (either RDP or Luongo) till the end of the deal.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:12 AM ET
TB buying out Vinny...I guess that was expected, but still...he's been a face of that franchise for a long time.
habs&islesfan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, AB
Joined: 09.05.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:13 AM ET
Eh, since we wouldn't qualify for an amnesty buyout of Lou, I'd stear clear of him until he himself is bought out. That contract is actually worse than DP's with the exception that Lou is an actual NHL player. I never want to see a goalie signed past age 40 here again, let alone 43.

xxkeaner17xx

- keaner17


lou is not coming unless its straight up for DP. He is not a good goalie anymore, washed up. leave DP in the minors until he retires, draft a goalie this year, sign Jose T, use him and Poulin. Upgrade D with Letang, Ference, ect. Upgrade forwards with one or two of Horton, Clarkeson, Clowe, Penner, Ellias. Let Nino, Dehaan, and Strome all play next year and we will be fine. If you can make a good trade for a guy like Stewart then do so.
habs&islesfan
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, AB
Joined: 09.05.2008

Jun 27 @ 9:16 AM ET
TB buying out Vinny...I guess that was expected, but still...he's been a face of that franchise for a long time.
- UIF


real bad contract though.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:24 AM ET
I have heard that nabby wants to be the starter and the isles cant say for certain...something is up here the isles have someone else on the radar..just a matter of who
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jun 27 @ 9:26 AM ET
real bad contract though.
- habs&islesfan


Yep, no denying that.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:26 AM ET
I have heard that nabby wants to be the starter and the isles cant say for certain...something is up here the isles have someone else on the radar..just a matter of who
- NYI78


Better not be DP or there is no way we make the playoffs or come even close
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:27 AM ET
the amnesty thing is only significant if you're talking about a team that would actually buy a player out. I know they bought Yashin out, but I don't know if they will buy RDP out. I think CW has a real problem paying a guy $24M or $27M to NOT play for his team, regardless of its cap implications.

If CW is not going to buy out RDP, under that circumstance it would be worth looking at trading RDP and a third rounder for Luongo. Obviously, the best option is to just buy out RDP and move forward with goaltenders who are younger and signed to reasonable contracts. But the truth is that a deal for Luongo for only RDP and a third rounder isn't a terrible scenario IF CW refuses to buy out another contract and will keep the player (either RDP or Luongo) till the end of the deal.

- Jethro09


I'm just not sure how intelligent it is to trade one contract for another. In addition, Vancouver clearly believes Luongo is a tradeable commodity so I have my doubts they'd settle for a trade like this. I agree about Wang not wanting to buy out DP for $24mil over 16 years, though it seems to me the only decent way to do it is through the amnesty clause since it at least wouldn't carry a hit to the cap. As I wrote yesterday, from Wang's perspective, unless you believe DP will be playing 6 years from now, you may as well keep him around and hope he retires. I think if we weren't a team still losing big money on an annual basis, they may have been more inclined to perform the buyout, but Wang has been trying to minimize his loses for a couple of years now.

Xxkeaner17xX
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:28 AM ET
Better not be DP or there is no way we make the playoffs or come even close
- kasperrko

I think everybody is worrying about DP a little too much. I would be shocked if he was in the NHL next year. When they sent him down to let Poulin sit on the bench shows that they're done with him.
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:28 AM ET
Better not be DP or there is no way we make the playoffs or come even close
- kasperrko



its not dipi..
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Jun 27 @ 9:29 AM ET
TB buying out Vinny...I guess that was expected, but still...he's been a face of that franchise for a long time.
- UIF


i'd take him as a second line center
brodydog29
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 09.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:30 AM ET
I have heard that nabby wants to be the starter and the isles cant say for certain...something is up here the isles have someone else on the radar..just a matter of who
- NYI78


That's what I heard that's why I have the notion it's because of DP. The organization has always had a soft spot for DP, and not just because he makes a truck load of Wang's money.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 27 @ 9:30 AM ET
I have heard that nabby wants to be the starter and the isles cant say for certain...something is up here the isles have someone else on the radar..just a matter of who
- NYI78


Agreed. I doubt this came down to money or even term since Nabby likely didn't want more than 2 years and the Isles didn't want to commit but maybe 1-2 years. The Isles allowing this to fall apart over something minimal like pocket change and 1 year seems far-fetched to me. The Bernier talk along with Nabby leaving suggest the Isles have other plans.

Xxkeaner17xX
brodydog29
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 09.24.2011

Jun 27 @ 9:31 AM ET
I think everybody is worrying about DP a little too much. I would be shocked if he was in the NHL next year. When they sent him down to let Poulin sit on the bench shows that they're done with him.
- NYI44


As a fan, I will always be worried of him until he is officially off their payroll... Until he becomes the next assistant GM
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

Jun 27 @ 9:37 AM ET
As a fan, I will always be worried of him until he is officially off their payroll... Until he becomes the next assistant GM
- brodydog29

Hopefully that will be by July 4
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