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EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:37 AM ET
I'm very wary of Seth Jones. I would be hesitant to ship significant assets to get him.
- Ogilthorpe2


Agreed.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:37 AM ET


Lol

Jamie Kompon...

Back to Back Stanley Cup Champion !!!!

Lol
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:38 AM ET
Watch the Hawks and FL.

Might not involve Hawks obtaining their pick, but lots of conversation going on, two very well-suited trading partners.

FL interested in Bolland, Leddy, Frolik, Teravainen.

Hawks in love with Jones, Drouin and Darnell Nurse (you heard it hear first).

FL may have other assets that can help the Hawks.
mrpaulish
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Itasca, IL
Joined: 01.18.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:39 AM ET
Watch the Hawks and FL.

Might not involve Hawks obtaining their pick, but lots of conversation going on, two very well-suited trading partners.

FL interested in Bolland, Leddy, Frolik, Teravainen.

Hawks in love with Jones, Drouin and Darnell Nurse (you heard it hear first).

FL may have other assets that can help the Hawks.

- John Jaeckel



Drew Shore , Mathias
TrueGrit
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: FL
Joined: 07.19.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:39 AM ET
JJ. I read an article Wirtz says the Hawks are still losing money. Why do you think that is ?
- Ruboy88


There is a big difference between paper profit and real cash flow profit. Since Hawks are privately held, we have no access and have no right to know what the Wirtz family has under the Hawks umbrella. It is fun to just guess and assume, but safe to say that in the conglomerate of a wealthy family, there is a broader tax strategy. Based upon ownership interest within the family.

Way too complicated and a 100 times harder to model than guessing lines for a team.

In the real world I am an accountant and deal with this stuff regularly.

EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:40 AM ET
Lol

Jamie Kompon...

Back to Back Stanley Cup Champion !!!!

Lol

- mrpaulish


...and hopefully back to back trips to the unemployment line.
Ogilthorpe2
Season Ticket Holder
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: 37,000 FT
Joined: 07.09.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:40 AM ET
Watch the Hawks and FL.

Might not involve Hawks obtaining their pick, but lots of conversation going on, two very well-suited trading partners.

FL interested in Bolland, Leddy, Frolik, Teravainen.

Hawks in love with Jones, Drouin and Darnell Nurse (you heard it hear first).

FL may have other assets that can help the Hawks.

- John Jaeckel

Don't do it Stan.
John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:41 AM ET
Hawks also talking to Edmonton.
CaptainBlackhawk
Joined: 01.29.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:42 AM ET
I wonder who Patrick Kane is going to punch this time?
- manvanfan


You tools are STILL pirating the Hawks blog?

Tell you what: Try to win a Cup.. just once. It's a marvelous feeling.

See you at the parade on Friday.. oh wait... no I won't.
RickJ
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Burlington, ON
Joined: 01.12.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:42 AM ET
I'm very wary of Seth Jones. I would be hesitant to ship significant assets to get him.
- Ogilthorpe2

Central Scouting and just about every other judge of talent has no issues with him.

A kid like that probably excels as a rookie on a very good team. Put him with a horrible rebuilding team and he likely will struggle and be exposed.
EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:43 AM ET
Hawks also talking to Edmonton.
- John Jaeckel


Any word as to what names are being thrown between those two teams?
wiz1901
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: DraftSite com, IL
Joined: 05.14.2008

Jun 26 @ 10:43 AM ET
The off season starts today and here is what I really think they are gonna do:

Everyone here sees the logivcal subtractions in a buyout of Montador (not a huge relief) and tarding Bolland or Brookbank...
but tell me this: which team out there is not Cap strapped and willing to take on that Bolland contract (with in itself implies a owner who wants spend spend spend and not belt tighten) a BIG chuck for a guy who has a history of health issues, despite two Cups including one he was the determining factor in.

JUST THINK THINK THING everyone!
Teams do want to remake, but they are now looking to DUMP theirs too, so I don't see as many suitors as the rest of you.

Let's hope Stan Bowman has a verbal agreement with Bickell worked out from before the playoffs, because as much as I am sure they like his "new upside", IF ANY TEAM signs him for a LARGE SUM, they will end up disappointed unless he actually becomes a top line player game in and out, and the entire year doesn't really indicate a transformation in Bickell just an upward swing....

I just think that the hawks are smart enough to not get emotional on his next contract.
He can go out and move on and be financially well set....or stay for less, which may be unrealistic for all of us to think...

If Bickell wants to look out for his family, they will let him WALK.

I truly have trouble understanding that Leddy's agent is so stupid that he doesn't understand the market...and that with the Cap shrinkages, almost EVERY team isn't gonna go out and play RFA ridiculous offer.
Teams right now are SCRAMBLING to find relief by sending veterans (good players!) under contract new homes....not securing future potential puck carriers.

To make more space for Leddy & Kruger signings they will try and find room elsewhere before they start looking to get Bickell's name on paper.

The RFAs will be done quickly, watch.

The will have Ben Smith Pirri, Morin, and Hayes carousel into the openings that are made with Leblanc as a future pivot, Danault asa future defensive wing and McNeill as the eventual Bickell type replacement (who will also add the secondary face-off aspectala Bruins lines...)

They will use that second buyout on hossa NEXT June, watch.
It won't be about anything but business.


I am betting THIS is the path, and although I am not really a gambler, I would bet I am on down the right road of what they are planning...

So no tears if Bickell is gone ok?

(I have been defending his upside for three seasons, and still like every aspect of his game inside of his true abilities...)
Bjm84
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 03.29.2013

Jun 26 @ 10:44 AM ET
Hawks also talking to Edmonton.
- John Jaeckel


With Florida, you hearing the Hawks have interest in a guy like Mathias? I think this is a guy that would be of great interest to the Blackhawks brass... He's enormous, can win faceoffs, is improving his overall game, and would be nice on either the 3rd or 2nd line center.

What do you think they'd try to get from Edmonton and at what cost?
beingaflamesfan
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 03.07.2013

Jun 26 @ 10:44 AM ET
No!

Nor does he deserve to be on the cup.

- EKolb13



Good,

That would have sucked, if he plays sub par hockey in Calgary and gets his name on the cup in Chicago.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:44 AM ET
Watch the Hawks and FL.

Might not involve Hawks obtaining their pick, but lots of conversation going on, two very well-suited trading partners.

FL interested in Bolland, Leddy, Frolik, Teravainen.

Hawks in love with Jones, Drouin and Darnell Nurse (you heard it hear first).

FL may have other assets that can help the Hawks.

- John Jaeckel


How funny would that be...Frolik going back to Flarida
QStache
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 03.02.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:45 AM ET
Central Scouting and just about every other judge of talent has no issues with him.

A kid like that probably excels as a rookie on a very good team. Put him with a horrible rebuilding team and he likely will struggle and be exposed.

- RickJ


Paired with a captain like Toews and veteran leaders throughout the locker room, a kid like Jones wouldn't worry me a bit.
yahoodi
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: chicago, IL
Joined: 02.28.2011

Jun 26 @ 10:45 AM ET
Bolland, regardless of his warts, won't be given away for picks that are 2-4 years away. Centerman are valuable commodities in today's NHL. Trade Bolland and sign who to replace him - a piece of crap like Tyler Bozak who is looking for $5M/year?

Bolly stays unless he's part of a bigger package that returns something the Hawks really want or covet.

- RickJ


Pirri or Leblanc...Maybe Danault. Welcome to life in the salary cap age. Bolland is being moved to reduce salary. You constantly have to prune your roster and replace from within....as Stan just showed with this year's club.

Stan actually just said as much on the Score just now...
QStache
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 03.02.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:45 AM ET
Any word as to what names are being thrown between those two teams?
- EKolb13


Wouldn't surprise me if Edmonton wanted in on the Leddy action.
QStache
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 03.02.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:47 AM ET
Pirri or Leblanc...Maybe Danault. Welcome to life in the salary cap age. Bolland is being moved to reduce salary. You constantly have to prune your roster and replace from within....as Stan just showed with this year's club.

Stan actually just said as much on the Score just now...

- yahoodi


I understand that Pirri or Danault will eventually be on the big club, but I really hate the idea of one of them making the team now. They don't fit as 3-4 C and I just don't know if they are physically or mentally ready to slot in on a top 2 line.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:48 AM ET
Can we please stop with the Leblanc talk? Guy hasn't even proven himself in the AHL let alone the NHL
PEIHawkFan
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Summerside , PEI
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 26 @ 10:49 AM ET
Next Year

Core: Forwards
Toews
Kane
Hossa....if he does not retire
Frolick
Kruger
Saad
Bickel .....signs this week for 3-3.5 Million
Shaw
Total $30 Million

Questions:
Leblanc
Handzus
Stalberg
Bolligg

Moved or retiring:
Mayers
Carcillo
Bolland

Rockford ....Trade Bait or starting in Chicago next year:
TT
Smith
Denault
LeBlanc
McNeil
Hayes


Core Defence and Goal:
Seabrook
Keith
Hammer
Oduya
Crawford
Leddy...... Could sign for 3 million

Total $$26 million

Total @ $56 million
Cap @$64


Questions:
Rosie.... Think he moves on based on age
Leddy ... Still think they sign him but seems not.
Emery.....Back up somewhere else possible starter.



John Jaeckel
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: www.the-rink.com
Joined: 11.19.2006

Jun 26 @ 10:49 AM ET
Any word as to what names are being thrown between those two teams?
- EKolb13



Nurse with Edmonton's pick. Have not heard this specifically, but would have to think Leddy would be going the other way.
captainserious
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 02.24.2010

Jun 26 @ 10:49 AM ET
Pirri or Leblanc...Maybe Danault. Welcome to life in the salary cap age. Bolland is being moved to reduce salary. You constantly have to prune your roster and replace from within....as Stan just showed with this year's club.

Stan actually just said as much on the Score just now...

- yahoodi


Mind giving a quick summary of what he said?
tredbrta
Chicago Blackhawks
Joined: 06.30.2012

Jun 26 @ 10:49 AM ET
I don't see the Hawks moving that high in the draft. And I can't see any team passing on the top 5 players in the draft, with the possible exception of Tampa and that would ONLY be if they got salary relief from Lecavalier's contract and the Hawks ain't doing that.

I think it's much more likely that Bolland gets moved for either a 2nd or a 3rd. The Hawks don't have either.

It's funny, I find myself somewhat amused by all the other teams frantically making moves trying to get where the Hawks are. Mirtle today theorized that the Flyers are preparing a huge offer sheet for Bobrovsky....That's absolutely hilarious.

Should be interesting.

- yahoodi


An offer sheet for someone they traded? That FO is all over the place.


EKB13
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: IL
Joined: 07.18.2009

Jun 26 @ 10:50 AM ET
I understand that Pirri or Danault will eventually be on the big club, but I really hate the idea of one of them making the team now. They don't fit as 3-4 C and I just don't know if they are physically or mentally ready to slot in on a top 2 line.
- QStache


I disagree.

Danault is probably good enough defensively to slot there. McNeill could probably slot there as well.

As to one of them being ready to slot there at the start of next season, maybe Danault has some sort of shot to end up there. It's probably unlikely at this point.
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