I would say the chances of an offer sheet is great...

Would you sign Leddy to a $3 mill contract and give up a 1st and 3rd round pick??

I think more than a few teams would as long as they have the cap space....Islanders could put Leddy on the ice as a top 2.

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- Al

Part of the cost of success Al, a team is vulnerable when they have alot of good young players. That's why the likelihood of Bolland being moved out, essentially to help subsidize a Leddy contract. If it isn't Bolly, it has to be guys like Oduya or Frolik.

Yeah, i wondered if the tears and quaver in bollie's voice was about hism understanding the math and handwriting on the GM's wall...
- wiz1901

That steered me to the same theory. Based on past actions and comments, I really think Bolly loves being a Hawk too.

Those, IMO, are instincts that can't be taught or developed, that are possessed by like 10 guys in the league, those who are Norris Trophy candidates, and I don't think Leddy will ever be like that. His ceiling I would think is Brian Campbell (and who better for him to learn from after he's traded to Florida for the pick )
- rollpards19

>May be true -- and Campbell may be his model -- BUT -- with a skater of Leddy's ability it's a matter of having him step up in the neutral zone over and over again in practice and drills
>It's about making the right reads at the right time -- he has the physical ability
>NHL teams usually spend little time developing a player's hockey IQ -- by the time they are in the NHL, their IQ "is what it is"
>In the restrictive world of the salary cap, finding ways to improve a player's hockey IQ could pay off hugely
>There is much opportunity for NHL players to improve their "brain to feet" and "feet to brain" connections (hands, too)

If Leddy isn't with the team, it's likely due to money. If he's gone, then perhaps they are able to retain Rozsival?
- eburgio

I would like to think that he likes to be protected?Playing in Chicago this year afforded him a chance to play less leading up to the playoffs,Scotty like his strong D.If Leddy goes I think that he stays and mentors Stanton or whoever shows up in camp?

oh my gosh!

someone read my tweets?

I just FOUND that Twiiter account.
had no clue I had it as the Twiiter actually took my orginal name and gave it to some singer rapper Wizkalifah or sone nonhockey boy loser, so...

My original tweets were ain October about how Huet could win a Cup unless they found a goalie to take a huge part of the laod, and didn't know if Neimi was that guy.

I jsut didn't do any b/c I type so crappy and thought "who is gonna read my dumb opinions anyway..."

hey thanks for being the one person.

can I send you some $ or old Hawk memorabiliia as a bride for doing so?
- wiz1901

Make that at least two followers, Wiz.

Those, IMO, are instincts that can't be taught or developed, that are possessed by like 10 guys in the league, those who are Norris Trophy candidates, and I don't think Leddy will ever be like that. His ceiling I would think is Brian Campbell (and who better for him to learn from after he's traded to Florida for the pick )
- rollpards19

....Can't forget Leddy basically came right from HS.

But I will go along with you and say Leddy could be Campbell and if so he should be kept.

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Part of the cost of success Al, a team is vulnerable when they have alot of good young players. That's why the likelihood of Bolland being moved out, essentially to help subsidize a Leddy contract. If it isn't Bolly, it has to be guys like Oduya or Frolik.
- RickJ

Yes and as I have said for awhile Oduya would be my pick.


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Some thoughts.....


Kruger will be the 2C before Pirri or Leblanc get their shot. Leblanc needs to get used to the speed of the game over a full season and Pirri is an offensive minded center. Doesn't work with Sharp/Kane on the wing.

Stephen Johns....based on his twitter feed when he said "last day at ND, crazy" at the beginning of June is expected to play in RFD next year however I would think he is two years away from being up with the Hawks.

Truth is we don't know who will be the 2C next year until buyouts happen and free agency starts. The Hawks have depth at center in the system but no one may be ready for another year or two. So expect a band aid or bridge guy to be signed....Brierre or even Brad Richards depending.

With this years draft I expect Bowman to make a move that replenishes the picks he has lost over the past few years. Also, don't rule out Carolina to be in play for Leddy. They need help defensively. Over the next few days leading up to the draft the market for Leddy is going to skyrocket....you watch. When it is all said and done a draft pick might not be enough.
- UnnamedSource

Agree with everything, Source...great post

Yes and as I have said for awhile Oduya would be my pick.


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- Al

Your original question was if I was another team looking for a young Dman would I offer sheet at $3M and give up a 1st and a 3rd for Leddy. Yes, of course.

Question back to you - if you were the Hawks, would you match? I think I know the answer.

Your original question was if I was another team looking for a young Dman would I offer sheet at $3M and give up a 1st and a 3rd for Leddy. Yes, of course.

Question back to you - if you were the Hawks, would you match? I think I know the answer.
- RickJ

Does the team making the offer also come into play? If the team making the offer is expected to draft in positions 21-30 vs 1-10...think that would have to be taken into account too.

I think Leddy has serious upside - hope they can get him signed

If Leddy isn't with the team, it's likely due to money. If he's gone, then perhaps they are able to retain Rozsival?
- eburgio

Rosival is short term
Leddy is long term
Prefer the Long Term solution

I think it's 75-25 Bolland gets dealt. They need the cap room, period.
- John Jaeckel

There's a harsh truth to face...and I know it all too well

Your original question was if I was another team looking for a young Dman would I offer sheet at $3M and give up a 1st and a 3rd for Leddy. Yes, of course.

Question back to you - if you were the Hawks, would you match? I think I know the answer.
- RickJ

His offer sheet will be more than 3 if he gets one. If a team is going to write one... They want him. 3 mil doesn't do anything for them. To force the Hawks hand it's going to have to be 3.5-4.

This is a fine way to think logically about a situation, but the fact of the matter is the world, and more so professional sports, are about results. It doesn't matter how earnest and steadfast you are in regard to your principles, correct as they may be, if you don't win, and it doesn't matter how flawed you're thought process is if you win. The other guy may feel cheated you got quad 7's on a horrible call, but at the end of the day, you still took his money. This team is well constructed and deserves to be praised because they won, and if they didn't, they'd deserve the skepticism and criticism that would be heaped upon them. "Winning isn't everything, its the only thing"
- rollpards19

But how do you get the results? You have to make the right moves but ultimately in sports (and cards) its a lot of luck. Thats maybe I think what needs to be realized more often. Think about the detroit series and how that Hjalmarsson blown call could have crushed us. Think about the cup winning goal, deflection post, tap in. Those are extremely narrow margins between best in the world and needing to be blown up. I think maybe what bhawk is getting at is that we swing the pendulum way too far in both directions when the truth is usually somewhere closer to the middle. For all our calls for huge changes in the last two years, a few minor changes and luck got us there in the end. Thats why, for myself at least, I try not to get too high or low on the team.

Does the team making the offer also come into play? If the team making the offer is expected to draft in positions 21-30 vs 1-10...think that would have to be taken into account too.

I think Leddy has serious upside - hope they can get him signed
- dpard

The picks that come back would be in next year's draft so that makes it a little harder to gauge accurately. But picks mean nothing to me compared to the real live player you know all about. If the Hawks think Leddy can/will be a superstar, they will find a way to keep him and sacrifice other assets to do it. If they are lukewarm on him and think they have as good or better in the system, a trade to acquire a solid, affordable piece may be what they go for.

Does the team making the offer also come into play? If the team making the offer is expected to draft in positions 21-30 vs 1-10...think that would have to be taken into account too.

I think Leddy has serious upside - hope they can get him signed
- dpard

The picks that come back would be in next year's draft so that makes it a little harder to gauge accurately. But picks mean nothing to me compared to the real live player you know all about. If the Hawks think Leddy can/will be a superstar, they will find a way to keep him and sacrifice other assets to do it. If they are lukewarm on him and think they have as good or better in the system, a trade to acquire a solid, affordable piece may be what they go for.

Gentlemen, my two cents on Bobby Hull!
As a prosecutor in the western suburbs in the mid 80's I was in bond court when #9 appeared on one of his domestic battery transgressions. The judge who was oblivious to the star that appeared before him asked if he had a "record", to which I immediately replied, "Your Honor, 610 career goals, 2nd all time leading goal scorer in the NHL.
It was funny, I later got his signature on the conditional discharge order when he plead guilty. Back then this was just a misdemeanor and no one paid much attention.
Ironically it was my second autograph as I had gotten one standing in line with my dad at an car dealership appearance as an eight year old kid in the mid 60's
My take on Bobby is he is no OJ! OJ was a vicious, jealous, brutal murderer. Bobby likes his cocktails, and we all have shortcomings, but he remains on my sports heroes list.
DGB
- Edperl

I've met a few Hawk legends over the years..my opinions are based solely on my encounter with them

Tony O....AS S HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE (

Stan Mikita...AS SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE

Bobby Hull....AMAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYZING MAN

....Can't forget Leddy basically came right from HS.

But I will go along with you and say Leddy could be Campbell and if so he should be kept.

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- Al

The Blue resigned Shattenkirk to a 4 year $4.25/year million deal. If Shattenkirk is worth $4.25 million Leddy is worth $2 million.

But how do you get the results? You have to make the right moves but ultimately in sports (and cards) its a lot of luck. Thats maybe I think what needs to be realized more often. Think about the detroit series and how that Hjalmarsson blown call could have crushed us. Think about the cup winning goal, deflection post, tap in. Those are extremely narrow margins between best in the world and needing to be blown up. I think maybe what bhawk is getting at is that we swing the pendulum way too far in both directions when the truth is usually somewhere closer to the middle. For all our calls for huge changes in the last two years, a few minor changes and luck got us there in the end. Thats why, for myself at least, I try not to get too high or low on the team.
- Walky

But there's no middle ground in a game/series. You win or you don't. If the non-goal had crushed them, then maybe the team didn't have the right make-up to win and should have been blown up, but it didn't and they won. If they didn't have someone with Frolik's skill on the 4th line, maybe they don't get that perfect tip leading to the goal, but they did and they won. As a fan (fanatical) I enjoy the highs and hate the lows, chalking it all up to luck would make the experience more hollow for me, but to each their own

The Blue resigned Shattenkirk to a 4 year $4.25/year million deal. If Shattenkirk is worth $4.25 million Leddy is worth $2 million.
- DarthKane

The open market for any goods or services doesn't work that way. If somebody is willing to pay Leddy $8M/year, that is what his market value is.

Remember the endless discussions about Hammer not being worth $3.5M/year? What's he worth now?

I would be surprised if they resigned Seabs after his next deal is up. There's a lot of wear on those tires ...
- QStache

Forecheckers still seem to bounce off him ... love seeing that on the Hawks blueline

I've met a few Hawk legends over the years..my opinions are based solely on my encounter with them

Tony O....AS S HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE (

Stan Mikita...AS SHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLE

Bobby Hull....AMAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYZING MAN
- philco28

Awesome I was talking with my father over game 1 of the finals.Since I was born the same year that the hawks won in 61,I always knew he was a Hawks fan due to Hall.Ends up that he was a Hull fan as he used to watch him play in Woodstock as a 14 year old.Strange how time goes by and you sometimes miss asking the good questions. That game one was awesome as we all know.

The open market for any goods or services doesn't work that way. If somebody is willing to pay Leddy $8M/year, that is what his market value is.

Remember the endless discussions about Hammer not being worth $3.5M/year? What's he worth now?
- RickJ

But who in their right mind would pay Leddy over $4 million? At least in Hammer's case he was a big part of our cup run in 2010. Can we say the same about Leddy in 2013? If a GM is thinking over OS'ing Leddy they will look around the league at comparable defenseman and gross up the amount a bit. But they still have to be realistic.

Agree with everything, Source...great post
- grinder10

thank you sir

But who in their right mind would pay Leddy over $4 million? At least in Hammer's case he was a big part of our cup run in 2010. Can we say the same about Leddy in 2013? If a GM is thinking over OS'ing Leddy they will look around the league at comparable defenseman and gross up the amount a bit. But they still have to be realistic.
- DarthKane

Well it depends on the philosophy of the GM...pay for past performance or for future performance.